A New Sheriff in the 450 class

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1/30/2011 1:16pm
Ok, let me dumb it down for you so you understand what I said. James suffered a wrist injury that in the past was career ending...
Ok, let me dumb it down for you so you understand what I said. James suffered a wrist injury that in the past was career ending for a rider. James took enough time off to allow the injury to heal, then battled back to being the fastest man on the planet.

Do you get it now? You were saying that RV suffered an injury and came back, but James injury was considered career ending. Dumbed down enough for you?

If not, let me know and I will draw pictures.
I feel dumber just by reading this thread.
1/30/2011 4:16pm
No, your are terribly confusing You said RV should beat a guy who had a career ending injury, James didn't have a career injury since he...
No, your are terribly confusing

You said RV should beat a guy who had a career ending injury, James didn't have a career injury since he is still racing.

Do you get it or do you want me to dumb it down even more??
Ok, let me dumb it down for you so you understand what I said. James suffered a wrist injury that in the past was career ending...
Ok, let me dumb it down for you so you understand what I said. James suffered a wrist injury that in the past was career ending for a rider. James took enough time off to allow the injury to heal, then battled back to being the fastest man on the planet.

Do you get it now? You were saying that RV suffered an injury and came back, but James injury was considered career ending. Dumbed down enough for you?

If not, let me know and I will draw pictures.
god dam your stupid.

Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury"

James didn't have a career ending injury. you said he did.

Read your posts before posting another dumb shit reply


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1/30/2011 5:01pm
god dam your stupid. Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury" James didn't have a career ending injury...
god dam your stupid.

Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury"

James didn't have a career ending injury. you said he did.

Read your posts before posting another dumb shit reply


It ended Ricky Johnson's career. I think that's what he's getting at. It was an injury of the "caliber" that could end a career.

But don't think for a second that I'm dismissing RV's injury. He still says he has some pain in the leg he broke. That's the type stuff that can certainly keep you off the podium. He's killing it regardless!

Incredible riders, both of them. You girls can nit-pick as to who's injury was worse, but does it matter? I mean, watch the races! They're both right up there.
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1/30/2011 5:10pm
Everybody forgets that RV had a worse wrist injury quite a few years ago. Pretty sure he had a screw in his navicular as well, but they took it out before the start of a lites sx season.

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1/30/2011 5:36pm
god dam your stupid. Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury" James didn't have a career ending injury...
god dam your stupid.

Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury"

James didn't have a career ending injury. you said he did.

Read your posts before posting another dumb shit reply


petegrath wrote:
It ended Ricky Johnson's career. I think that's what he's getting at. It was an injury of the "caliber" that could end a career. But don't...
It ended Ricky Johnson's career. I think that's what he's getting at. It was an injury of the "caliber" that could end a career.

But don't think for a second that I'm dismissing RV's injury. He still says he has some pain in the leg he broke. That's the type stuff that can certainly keep you off the podium. He's killing it regardless!

Incredible riders, both of them. You girls can nit-pick as to who's injury was worse, but does it matter? I mean, watch the races! They're both right up there.
I'm not arguing who's injury is worse, I'm simply saying that to have career ending injury, your career must end.
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1/30/2011 8:49pm
god dam your stupid. Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury" James didn't have a career ending injury...
god dam your stupid.

Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury"

James didn't have a career ending injury. you said he did.

Read your posts before posting another dumb shit reply


petegrath wrote:
It ended Ricky Johnson's career. I think that's what he's getting at. It was an injury of the "caliber" that could end a career. But don't...
It ended Ricky Johnson's career. I think that's what he's getting at. It was an injury of the "caliber" that could end a career.

But don't think for a second that I'm dismissing RV's injury. He still says he has some pain in the leg he broke. That's the type stuff that can certainly keep you off the podium. He's killing it regardless!

Incredible riders, both of them. You girls can nit-pick as to who's injury was worse, but does it matter? I mean, watch the races! They're both right up there.
I'm not arguing who's injury is worse, I'm simply saying that to have career ending injury, your career must end.
No you were stating that RV had a bad injury and could still beat James even though he suffered through an injury thus this somehow makes RV better and now is a better rider. I stated James too suffered an injury, but his was considered career ending in the past. Broken legs people have had before and continued to race. I shattered my tib/fib above the ankle and still race (though not to these guys level)

So regardless of which injury could be considered career ending or not. James is still the fastest man on the planet. He won the last race in the what have you done for me lately motocross sport and he has taken the points lead.

As I have said before, James is smarter, he has learned to to wait for the race to come to him. He is not going full out full throttle on then crashing his brains out. You cannot win if you crash, the old days of someone falling at the start and winning the moto are over. Too much tallent for that.

JS is still the fastest man on the planet. And from my view he appear to be a little faster than RV when he is riding in control and not over his head. But that does not alway mean James will be the fastest man on the planet, someone will come and dethrown him. Could be RV, could be someone else.
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1/30/2011 8:56pm
god dam your stupid. Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury" James didn't have a career ending injury...
god dam your stupid.

Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury"

James didn't have a career ending injury. you said he did.

Read your posts before posting another dumb shit reply


I find in a debate, the first person that starts swearing and using personal attacks is the loser of the debate, that is because they have nothing left in the tank and have to turn to personal attacks, you are that person. I think others understand what I was saying as a rebut to your RV had an injury, but so did James and it was what is considered career ending, again he fough back and is winning. That in no way diminishes RV, but at this point he is still 2nd pony in this race and until he can win a championship from James. He will be second pony. If one of them suffers another injury, it does not matter, that means they were riding over their head, crashed and lost the title. So it is not only who can hold the throttle on the longest, it is who can make it to the finish line and win the championship. What I have seen so far show me James still has an edge over RV. You may disagree but at this point we can only wait and see who wins the championship. Both riders have their reputation and bragging rights on the line. Lets see who can win.
1/30/2011 9:18pm
god dam your stupid. Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury" James didn't have a career ending injury...
god dam your stupid.

Read your posts, you said "RV should beat a rider with a career ending injury"

James didn't have a career ending injury. you said he did.

Read your posts before posting another dumb shit reply


I find in a debate, the first person that starts swearing and using personal attacks is the loser of the debate, that is because they have...
I find in a debate, the first person that starts swearing and using personal attacks is the loser of the debate, that is because they have nothing left in the tank and have to turn to personal attacks, you are that person. I think others understand what I was saying as a rebut to your RV had an injury, but so did James and it was what is considered career ending, again he fough back and is winning. That in no way diminishes RV, but at this point he is still 2nd pony in this race and until he can win a championship from James. He will be second pony. If one of them suffers another injury, it does not matter, that means they were riding over their head, crashed and lost the title. So it is not only who can hold the throttle on the longest, it is who can make it to the finish line and win the championship. What I have seen so far show me James still has an edge over RV. You may disagree but at this point we can only wait and see who wins the championship. Both riders have their reputation and bragging rights on the line. Lets see who can win.
its not a personal attack if your describing someone Smile

All I was saying is that JS didn't have a career ending injury. I wasn't arguing who is faster or who had the more severe crash.

How can JS's injury be anymore career ending than RV's???

Also crashing does not always mean that you were riding above your ability, it could just be a simple mistake. You can't always say a quarter back was playing above his head when he throws a pick, sometimes people simply make a mistake
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1/31/2011 4:23am
No, your are terribly confusing You said RV should beat a guy who had a career ending injury, James didn't have a career injury since he...
No, your are terribly confusing

You said RV should beat a guy who had a career ending injury, James didn't have a career injury since he is still racing.

Do you get it or do you want me to dumb it down even more??
Ok, let me dumb it down for you so you understand what I said. James suffered a wrist injury that in the past was career ending...
Ok, let me dumb it down for you so you understand what I said. James suffered a wrist injury that in the past was career ending for a rider. James took enough time off to allow the injury to heal, then battled back to being the fastest man on the planet.

Do you get it now? You were saying that RV suffered an injury and came back, but James injury was considered career ending. Dumbed down enough for you?

If not, let me know and I will draw pictures.
How do you figure JS is any faster than RV this year? Are you going off lap times or race wins?
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1/31/2011 4:43am
Fuck You all, my daddy would beat your daddy`s ass any time from January 8 - May 7.
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1/31/2011 5:07am
First off both riders have had bad injuries to deal with and obviosly none were career ending or they would not be racing.

I would say they are equal in speed so far this year. Both of them seem to like to tuck the front end this year for some reason but their overall speed is the same. Actually the last 2 races RV has had the fastest lap of the race.

I truly think it is time to stop calling JS the fastest man on the planet cause he is not and actually never really was.
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1/31/2011 5:14am Edited Date/Time 1/31/2011 5:18am
neysbo wrote:
First off both riders have had bad injuries to deal with and obviosly none were career ending or they would not be racing. I would say...
First off both riders have had bad injuries to deal with and obviosly none were career ending or they would not be racing.

I would say they are equal in speed so far this year. Both of them seem to like to tuck the front end this year for some reason but their overall speed is the same. Actually the last 2 races RV has had the fastest lap of the race.

I truly think it is time to stop calling JS the fastest man on the planet cause he is not and actually never really was.
OMG! Someone said something extremely intelligent on Vital and it's going in my sig!
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neysbo wrote:
First off both riders have had bad injuries to deal with and obviosly none were career ending or they would not be racing. I would say...
First off both riders have had bad injuries to deal with and obviosly none were career ending or they would not be racing.

I would say they are equal in speed so far this year. Both of them seem to like to tuck the front end this year for some reason but their overall speed is the same. Actually the last 2 races RV has had the fastest lap of the race.

I truly think it is time to stop calling JS the fastest man on the planet cause he is not and actually never really was.
OMG! Someone said something extremely intelligent on Vital and it's going in my sig!
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1/31/2011 8:59am
RC was the fastest man cause speed is found in motocross not supercross and Ricky was faster than JS. At this moment even dungey is faster than JS outdoors.Tongue (let the bashing begin)
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1/31/2011 9:01am Edited Date/Time 1/31/2011 9:03am

neysbo wrote:
I truly think it is time to stop calling JS the fastest man on the planet cause he is not and actually never really was.

I beg to differ! If RC himself came up with the term, who are you or anyone else to argue? Until someone else comes along and actually beats Stewart straight up week in and week out and takes a championship from him, he will be the fastest guy on the planet in SX racing.
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1/31/2011 10:13am
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he has set the bar...stewart is still faster i think but not much, dungey needs to step it up a bit as he's only a few...
he has set the bar...stewart is still faster i think but not much, dungey needs to step it up a bit as he's only a few ticks off the pace.
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James is faster? [img]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/database2/MX/LS-laptimes.gif[/img]
James is faster?




racer92, do you still think RV is FMOTP? are we really going to throw this title around every week to whoever wins...look at the history, 7 is always on top of the leader board or in the top two..in fact i challenge you to find a leaderboard where he finished both practice sessions and was sitting 3rd?
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1/31/2011 10:24am
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racer92, do you still think RV is FMOTP? are we really going to throw this title around every week to whoever wins...look at the history, 7...
racer92, do you still think RV is FMOTP? are we really going to throw this title around every week to whoever wins...look at the history, 7 is always on top of the leader board or in the top two..in fact i challenge you to find a leaderboard where he finished both practice sessions and was sitting 3rd?
Amir Rosenbaum is the FMOTP!
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1/31/2011 10:25am
BobbyM wrote:
Looks like the new sheriff has been demoted to deputy. bummer....
Uncleof2 wrote:
BobbyM, who are you aligning yourself with now, or are you going to be one of those guys that is just against one rider. Is the...
BobbyM, who are you aligning yourself with now, or are you going to be one of those guys that is just against one rider. Is the Sheriff Star for the guy with the most wins or the one with the most points or the one with the fastest lap in the race or the one with black hair or is there some other criteria. Stop hating on the nephew after his terrible 4th place finish.Sad
i don't have any riders anymore to cheer for...and cheering for rv is bout like cheering for james, almost to easy
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1/31/2011 10:37am
BobbyM wrote:
Looks like the new sheriff has been demoted to deputy. bummer....
Uncleof2 wrote:
BobbyM, who are you aligning yourself with now, or are you going to be one of those guys that is just against one rider. Is the...
BobbyM, who are you aligning yourself with now, or are you going to be one of those guys that is just against one rider. Is the Sheriff Star for the guy with the most wins or the one with the most points or the one with the fastest lap in the race or the one with black hair or is there some other criteria. Stop hating on the nephew after his terrible 4th place finish.Sad
BobbyM wrote:
i don't have any riders anymore to cheer for...and cheering for rv is bout like cheering for james, almost to easy
Just Bring yourself to A2 and Cheer for Me, Oh and your wife can watch also.
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Uncleof2 wrote:
BobbyM, who are you aligning yourself with now, or are you going to be one of those guys that is just against one rider. Is the...
BobbyM, who are you aligning yourself with now, or are you going to be one of those guys that is just against one rider. Is the Sheriff Star for the guy with the most wins or the one with the most points or the one with the fastest lap in the race or the one with black hair or is there some other criteria. Stop hating on the nephew after his terrible 4th place finish.Sad
BobbyM wrote:
i don't have any riders anymore to cheer for...and cheering for rv is bout like cheering for james, almost to easy
Brosho wrote:
Just Bring yourself to A2 and Cheer for Me, Oh and your wife can watch also.
cheering for pecker pilots anonymous?...you got it
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1/31/2011 4:12pm Edited Date/Time 1/31/2011 4:12pm
its not a personal attack if your describing someone :) All I was saying is that JS didn't have a career ending injury. I wasn't arguing...
its not a personal attack if your describing someone Smile

All I was saying is that JS didn't have a career ending injury. I wasn't arguing who is faster or who had the more severe crash.

How can JS's injury be anymore career ending than RV's???

Also crashing does not always mean that you were riding above your ability, it could just be a simple mistake. You can't always say a quarter back was playing above his head when he throws a pick, sometimes people simply make a mistake
"How can JS's injury be anymore career ending than RV's??? "

Sorry, I am not going to draw pictures, takes to long, I have explained it too many times. James had what is considered a career ending injury, RV did not (although I suppose if bad enough it could be career ending.

But crashing twice in the same race like RV did tells me he was riding over his head. You may disagree but it was not just one fall.

We will have to see a few more races and see if RV can beat JS and take back the points lead. At this point, it appears he who gets the best holeshot AND crashes the least, wins.

I think people make mistakes all the time, you made the mistake of thinking RV could win a championship against JS Smile

It may be RV may be battling for third behind Reed Smile

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