Apple Macbook Pro V Windows

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 3:11am
I know this was posted aways back but I'm in the market to replace my biz laptop. My kids love their Macbooks and I hate my HP laptop. The longer you have these things the slower they get.
The Apple people say there is emulation software to run most any windows programs. Plus you can run Windows now on them.

Does anyone have experience with using the Macbook Pro for business?

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They run windows in a program called VM ware. Its a program that allows you to run a virtual machine on any computer. The one thing I ca tell you is that Mac's are made for video and music editing more than anything. If your doing alot of databases for work or spredsheets i would stay with a PC as those progrems take a good chunk of power.
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12/13/2010 10:35am
mac mac mac - u can still run windows on mac if need to- the only issues i had was syncing my mac w my offices exchange server cuz the ex server is an older one- macs the only way to go and ive had both
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12/13/2010 10:37am
works really well. Win7 in a virtual session in MAC OS... so go with the Macbook.. (of course you can also get Mac OS running in a virtual session on Win7 as well)

might as well setup a virtual session of OS/2 as well.. (glory days) :-)

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ive had both and you cant beat a mac. i love my new mac book pro
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Lots of options here...

Apple or a Wintel PC...???

You can use an Apple laptop and run Windows from it - Boot Camp is the Apple utility for this. Pretty standard set up, I see it even at the large s/w company I consult for in Redmond, WA... Boot Camp Link

You can look at other options too from software firms Vmware and Parallels. These firms offer virtualization software making your PC into a multi-dimensional platform.

Personally I use HP and Windows 7 and am quite happy.

It is a personal choice...
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You have three options to run windows on a mac.

Parallels and VMware Fusion - which are emulators and allow you run both OS's side by side simultaneously.
BootCamp - which requires partitioning your hard drive and a reboot when you switch between MacOS and Windows.

None of those options will fix windows. Your machine will still slow down with time as it builds up all the crap and temp files that bog windows down. The macOS on the other hand. Well I reboot my machine every couple of months whether it needs it or not. I don't really notice much of a speed boost from it, but I don't notice it slowing down any either.

As for power, any machine that can handle video editing can scream through any spreadsheet you throw at it. Video editing is far more taxing on a system than any spreadsheet or database application.
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12/13/2010 11:18am Edited Date/Time 12/13/2010 11:34am
Who wouldn't want to pay 3x as much for the same hardware???

EDIT: make the 2x.
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I run an HP with Windows 7 at home and a Dell with windows XP at work. (new work laptop but had to downgrade to XP for old software compatability) Windows doesn't slow down and works very well if you take care of it. It is not idiot proof like the Mac oc is. You need Registry First aid platinum edition and Microsoft security essentials to keep your Windows OC working properly. With the diapers on it Windows works very well and is more adaptable/ manipulatable than Mac OC. JMO
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VMWare Fusion, all the way.
I'm a moron and I can use it.

I like that I can use both at same time, I can cut/paste from one to the other and I can even drag and drop files from Mac to PC and PC to Mac.

VMWare fusion quite literally makes Windows an application for your Mac, rather than having Windows as an operating system.

I use windows because of Quickbooks, the Mac version is supposedly crap and I started on a PC with it, so I wanted to keep it PC, so when I need to get to my QB, I launch VMWare, which launches Windows, open QB, close and go back to Mac just as if I was closing any other application.

Highly recommend

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yzvet426 wrote:
I know this was posted aways back but I'm in the market to replace my biz laptop. My kids love their Macbooks and I hate my...
I know this was posted aways back but I'm in the market to replace my biz laptop. My kids love their Macbooks and I hate my HP laptop. The longer you have these things the slower they get.
The Apple people say there is emulation software to run most any windows programs. Plus you can run Windows now on them.

Does anyone have experience with using the Macbook Pro for business?

You can dual-boot so windows run native, which is a lot faster than running windows in a virtual box.
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I do, my Mac book is outstanding, I would never go Windows.
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J.F.S wrote:
I do, my Mac book is outstanding, I would never go Windows.
Why not? Windows 7 is a GOOD OS.
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Linux! Smile
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12/13/2010 7:26pm Edited Date/Time 12/13/2010 7:29pm
J.F.S wrote:
I do, my Mac book is outstanding, I would never go Windows.
Billy Jack wrote:
Why not? Windows 7 is a GOOD OS.
Compared to Mac OSX?



No, it isn't



Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and Microsoft just keeps piling more shit onto shit.



My Mac boots and is ready to use in a minute, Win 7, as with all Win versions takes forever to boot, fully load and be ready to work without stammering and stalling because it's still busy booting.



and speaking of stammering and stalling while the OS goes "wait a minute,let me think about this a second," Windows still does it

Mac OSX does not, it operates flawlessly regardless of how many apps/programs you are running at once.



Win is shit, period

But my wife is so used to it, she refuses to change
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J.F.S wrote:
I do, my Mac book is outstanding, I would never go Windows.
Billy Jack wrote:
Why not? Windows 7 is a GOOD OS.
flarider wrote:
Compared to Mac OSX? No, it isn't Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and...
Compared to Mac OSX?



No, it isn't



Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and Microsoft just keeps piling more shit onto shit.



My Mac boots and is ready to use in a minute, Win 7, as with all Win versions takes forever to boot, fully load and be ready to work without stammering and stalling because it's still busy booting.



and speaking of stammering and stalling while the OS goes "wait a minute,let me think about this a second," Windows still does it

Mac OSX does not, it operates flawlessly regardless of how many apps/programs you are running at once.



Win is shit, period

But my wife is so used to it, she refuses to change
You are absolutely right, Dave. But Void is more righter!
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Billy Jack wrote:
Why not? Windows 7 is a GOOD OS.
flarider wrote:
Compared to Mac OSX? No, it isn't Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and...
Compared to Mac OSX?



No, it isn't



Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and Microsoft just keeps piling more shit onto shit.



My Mac boots and is ready to use in a minute, Win 7, as with all Win versions takes forever to boot, fully load and be ready to work without stammering and stalling because it's still busy booting.



and speaking of stammering and stalling while the OS goes "wait a minute,let me think about this a second," Windows still does it

Mac OSX does not, it operates flawlessly regardless of how many apps/programs you are running at once.



Win is shit, period

But my wife is so used to it, she refuses to change
Billy Jack wrote:
You are absolutely right, Dave. But Void is more righter!
Most everyone here is more righter than Flarider. Nachodady might be the rare exception. Smile
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flarider wrote:
Compared to Mac OSX? No, it isn't Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and...
Compared to Mac OSX?



No, it isn't



Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and Microsoft just keeps piling more shit onto shit.



My Mac boots and is ready to use in a minute, Win 7, as with all Win versions takes forever to boot, fully load and be ready to work without stammering and stalling because it's still busy booting.



and speaking of stammering and stalling while the OS goes "wait a minute,let me think about this a second," Windows still does it

Mac OSX does not, it operates flawlessly regardless of how many apps/programs you are running at once.



Win is shit, period

But my wife is so used to it, she refuses to change
Billy Jack wrote:
You are absolutely right, Dave. But Void is more righter!
Void Main wrote:
Most everyone here is more righter than Flarider. Nachodady might be the rare exception. Smile
LMFAO!
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Anybody here have a computer with a solid state hard drive?

My first gen macbook air has a 1.4Ghz processor, 2Gigs of ram and a 128 Gig solid state hard drive and blows away my Dell Latitude E6410 with 3 Gigs of memory and an i7 processor with windows 7.

I believe it is due to the solid state drive as my wifes macbook, with a regular hard drive, is also infinitely slower than my air.

I've had my air for more than a year and it still boots completely in approximately 6 seconds.

I can't imagine a more powerful machine with a solid state
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dcmx326 wrote:
Anybody here have a computer with a solid state hard drive? My first gen macbook air has a 1.4Ghz processor, 2Gigs of ram and a 128...
Anybody here have a computer with a solid state hard drive?

My first gen macbook air has a 1.4Ghz processor, 2Gigs of ram and a 128 Gig solid state hard drive and blows away my Dell Latitude E6410 with 3 Gigs of memory and an i7 processor with windows 7.

I believe it is due to the solid state drive as my wifes macbook, with a regular hard drive, is also infinitely slower than my air.

I've had my air for more than a year and it still boots completely in approximately 6 seconds.

I can't imagine a more powerful machine with a solid state
Yes, I put an SSD in my build this summer. It works great and the computer boots up pretty much instantly (despite Dave's bogus claim about boot times--I'd guess it's PEBKAC).

Also have Win 7 at work and it boots quickly as well.

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flarider wrote:
Compared to Mac OSX? No, it isn't Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and...
Compared to Mac OSX?



No, it isn't



Wife has Win 7 and I have Mac OSX, and it's night and day, and Win is shit and Microsoft just keeps piling more shit onto shit.



My Mac boots and is ready to use in a minute, Win 7, as with all Win versions takes forever to boot, fully load and be ready to work without stammering and stalling because it's still busy booting.



and speaking of stammering and stalling while the OS goes "wait a minute,let me think about this a second," Windows still does it

Mac OSX does not, it operates flawlessly regardless of how many apps/programs you are running at once.



Win is shit, period

But my wife is so used to it, she refuses to change
Just curious how often you bother to reboot your OSX box? Boot up time isn't even an issue for me, I can't remember the last time I've rebooted any of my Macs. Very rarely need to, and the sleep function works flawlessly even with bluetooth mouse and keyboard, so why shut it down?
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12/14/2010 9:12am
Not often, I usually just close the lid.
But when I do, like when I take the lappy portable, it boots right away
12/14/2010 10:54am
You fuckers might as well be speaking Chinese. Whole lotta geek up in here. Laughing
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dcmx326 wrote:
Anybody here have a computer with a solid state hard drive? My first gen macbook air has a 1.4Ghz processor, 2Gigs of ram and a 128...
Anybody here have a computer with a solid state hard drive?

My first gen macbook air has a 1.4Ghz processor, 2Gigs of ram and a 128 Gig solid state hard drive and blows away my Dell Latitude E6410 with 3 Gigs of memory and an i7 processor with windows 7.

I believe it is due to the solid state drive as my wifes macbook, with a regular hard drive, is also infinitely slower than my air.

I've had my air for more than a year and it still boots completely in approximately 6 seconds.

I can't imagine a more powerful machine with a solid state
Too pricey for me. I have an 8TB eSATA RAID 5 array. I'm already maxed out on speed and have way too many huge files to keep on hand for SS drives to be an option right now.

Hard drive speed will really impact your computers performance these days. All the current processors are pretty damn quick, so it's showing up the other areas of your system where you wouldn't have noticed speed deficiencies before.
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apple is definialty the better product when you look at quality.. but the price is to high in my opinion. but most people pay for the look and the style anyway. I like microsoft and windows and everything a litte better because of the price..
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dcmx326 wrote:
Anybody here have a computer with a solid state hard drive? My first gen macbook air has a 1.4Ghz processor, 2Gigs of ram and a 128...
Anybody here have a computer with a solid state hard drive?

My first gen macbook air has a 1.4Ghz processor, 2Gigs of ram and a 128 Gig solid state hard drive and blows away my Dell Latitude E6410 with 3 Gigs of memory and an i7 processor with windows 7.

I believe it is due to the solid state drive as my wifes macbook, with a regular hard drive, is also infinitely slower than my air.

I've had my air for more than a year and it still boots completely in approximately 6 seconds.

I can't imagine a more powerful machine with a solid state
Rooster wrote:
Too pricey for me. I have an 8TB eSATA RAID 5 array. I'm already maxed out on speed and have way too many huge files to...
Too pricey for me. I have an 8TB eSATA RAID 5 array. I'm already maxed out on speed and have way too many huge files to keep on hand for SS drives to be an option right now.

Hard drive speed will really impact your computers performance these days. All the current processors are pretty damn quick, so it's showing up the other areas of your system where you wouldn't have noticed speed deficiencies before.
I also have tons of data but use external hard drives for that. I only have the ssd for the OS and daily activity.
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You know that Macs used to only have 1 button on the mouse because the users were too stupid to use a 2 button mouse? And that W7 shits all over OSX? True story bro.
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12/16/2010 6:39am
Hey Dave, If you don't mind I have a few questions (Bought the Macbook Pro) Can you E-mail me at jefflg@sbcglobal.net?

Thanks
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12/16/2010 10:46am Edited Date/Time 12/16/2010 10:47am
I have a imac, iphone, and just bought a macbook air a week ago to replace my original macbook.



Windows and Mac are very similar but very different if that makes sense. What I mean is that if you know your way around windows then the learning curve is very short for Mac.



However, the Mac operating system is much more polished and friendly yet powerful. It's easy to boot up, easy to get around. I dig it.



My new Macbook air I am just loving it. So light and I just leave it on all the time and close it when not using so it goes to sleep.



I did some video on it the other day and even though it had a slight lag at times it was just fine. If I was doing it on my imac then probably wouldn't have noticed as much lag at times.



I'm a huge apple fan because I've had good experiences with it. The iphone is amazing and I love the apple operating system.



I love the trackpad on the macbook air. You can swipe 4 fingers down and expose all your windows open. You can 2 finger scroll. You can 3 finger swipe left to right to browse through your pics. I also love that if you have 2 or more windows open you can just move the mouse cursor to the other window and scroll without having to click on the window like you do on windows operating system. Also, the system preferences is soooo much more friendly then the freakin windows control panel.



Just the little things like that which make it so much more enjoyable to use.

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