Where's the outrage?

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1/13/2026 8:24pm
LoudLove wrote:
Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the...

Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the occasional over-the-top reaction. The pendulum simply ain’t swinging as far as we sometimes imagine. 

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands...

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands this road we’re on leads us only to ruin. After all, it doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. 

The nearly complete lack of empathy for others, epidemic laziness, loneliness, and mental illness. We are sick and dis-eased on a mass scale, but you’re only half wrong as we are materially rich and that keeps us placated and pacified. Tv and fast food is the new opium of the masses. We are spiritually bankrupt, morally deficient, and mostly devoid of reason, but we’ve got instagram and tic toc and pop culture. We are most definitely suffering, apparently not enough though. 

Edit* . I’ll add that maybe we are suffering enough, but people’s pineal glands are so calcified that the mass of humanity cannot even recognize their own suffering. Much less be able to act upon it. 

 

bodycast wrote:
I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.I would suggest getting your hands...

I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.

I would suggest getting your hands on a Bible and reading it.  You dont have to try to understand it fully or think out every word.  Just read it.  It helped me let go of some things and find some peace.  Im not a religious man nor do I go to church but it helped.  With that and my dirtbike things have gotten much better ill admit.

I think the dirtbike was the thing, Bible, not so much. Keep riding, less reading social media

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JerryVan
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1/13/2026 9:24pm Edited Date/Time 1/13/2026 9:36pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Okay…but…who? 

Are you asking who/what independent body I think should manage monetary policy?


Personally I think independent central banks seen around the world (Reserve Bank of Australia, Bank of England, etc.) are generally the best structure. What about you?

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1/14/2026 12:08am
JerryVan wrote:
Out of curiosity, if the Fed Reserve was abolished, would you want monetary policy to be managed by an independent body still or by government?I firmly...

Out of curiosity, if the Fed Reserve was abolished, would you want monetary policy to be managed by an independent body still or by government?


I firmly of the belief that it needs to be managed independently. But curious to hear other opinions.  

I guess my answer to that would be a question, why do we need to manage monetary policy?  In my view we should allow the market to set rates and the currency should be pegged to a hard asset, no more fiat currency and debasement of the dollar allowed.  If we assume that some level of management is necessary though then I fully agree with you, it should be managed independently and without influence from the government.

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1/14/2026 12:23am
mvd61 wrote:
The only truth here fellas is that the government is, always has been, and always will be the greatest threat to all of us. They may...

The only truth here fellas is that the government is, always has been, and always will be the greatest threat to all of us. They may do some things here and there that we like but for the most part they continue to give themselves more power and control. I don’t know how to fix it but I do know that they LOVE IT when we’re all outraged about shit. 

Add in fighting amongst ourselves while, they sit back and, watch the show. 

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1/14/2026 2:55am
Chance1216 wrote:

Add in fighting amongst ourselves while, they sit back and, watch the show. 

Tragedy tourism

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1/14/2026 12:16pm Edited Date/Time 1/14/2026 5:38pm
JM485 wrote:
We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming...

We can have a separate debate about the existence of the Federal Reserve (I’m firmly in the camp that it should be abolished btw), but coming after Powell criminally because he won’t bow to the pressures of the executive branch is an extremely dangerous precedent that we should all be very concerned about.  How would you like Biden (or whoever the hell was actually running the country at the time) deciding the direction of monetary policy?  

In my opinion Powell has actually done a pretty damned good job through Covid and beyond given the dual mandate he’s been tasked with upholding through the Fed (full employment and price stability).  Now, obviously prices have not been stable and employment has fluctuated, but comparatively the dollar has fared well against other currencies around the world.  Again, we can debate whether his job should even exist to begin with, but accepting the reality that he’s executing a job he was given I can’t find any reason for him to be held criminally liable for decisions he’s made.  There’s always room for debate and disagreement about them, but to say any of them are criminal is absurd.  

JerryVan wrote:
Out of curiosity, if the Fed Reserve was abolished, would you want monetary policy to be managed by an independent body still or by government?I firmly...

Out of curiosity, if the Fed Reserve was abolished, would you want monetary policy to be managed by an independent body still or by government?


I firmly of the belief that it needs to be managed independently. But curious to hear other opinions.  

TeamGreen wrote:

Okay…but…who? 

I don't know so much who, but they really should be dependent on only jobs and inflation. Not a litany of other factors. And the criteria should be set in advance that there's no ambiguity of what they are going to do. The country is not going to go in a hand basket in 3 months, so let's not include what might happen, let's make the decisions on what did happen. IE: we don't know what tariffs are going to do. Well, then adjust after you know what tariffs did, not what you think they may or may not do. Shit, next thing you know, they'll be asking the weather girl what's going to happen next week.

TM

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1/14/2026 1:52pm
LoudLove wrote:
Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the...

Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the occasional over-the-top reaction. The pendulum simply ain’t swinging as far as we sometimes imagine. 

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands...

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands this road we’re on leads us only to ruin. After all, it doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. 

The nearly complete lack of empathy for others, epidemic laziness, loneliness, and mental illness. We are sick and dis-eased on a mass scale, but you’re only half wrong as we are materially rich and that keeps us placated and pacified. Tv and fast food is the new opium of the masses. We are spiritually bankrupt, morally deficient, and mostly devoid of reason, but we’ve got instagram and tic toc and pop culture. We are most definitely suffering, apparently not enough though. 

Edit* . I’ll add that maybe we are suffering enough, but people’s pineal glands are so calcified that the mass of humanity cannot even recognize their own suffering. Much less be able to act upon it. 

 

bodycast wrote:
I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.I would suggest getting your hands...

I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.

I would suggest getting your hands on a Bible and reading it.  You dont have to try to understand it fully or think out every word.  Just read it.  It helped me let go of some things and find some peace.  Im not a religious man nor do I go to church but it helped.  With that and my dirtbike things have gotten much better ill admit.

Imagine if you tried a therapist. 

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1/14/2026 4:47pm
LoudLove wrote:
Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the...

Revolution is sparked by suffering. And none of us are suffering. You may be miffed, but unless the draft is reinstated, at most we’ll see the occasional over-the-top reaction. The pendulum simply ain’t swinging as far as we sometimes imagine. 

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands...

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands this road we’re on leads us only to ruin. After all, it doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. 

The nearly complete lack of empathy for others, epidemic laziness, loneliness, and mental illness. We are sick and dis-eased on a mass scale, but you’re only half wrong as we are materially rich and that keeps us placated and pacified. Tv and fast food is the new opium of the masses. We are spiritually bankrupt, morally deficient, and mostly devoid of reason, but we’ve got instagram and tic toc and pop culture. We are most definitely suffering, apparently not enough though. 

Edit* . I’ll add that maybe we are suffering enough, but people’s pineal glands are so calcified that the mass of humanity cannot even recognize their own suffering. Much less be able to act upon it. 

 

bodycast wrote:
I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.I would suggest getting your hands...

I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.

I would suggest getting your hands on a Bible and reading it.  You dont have to try to understand it fully or think out every word.  Just read it.  It helped me let go of some things and find some peace.  Im not a religious man nor do I go to church but it helped.  With that and my dirtbike things have gotten much better ill admit.

I appreciate the concern. I’ve been there, done that and made peace with the way things are, but I’m certainly not ok with it.

 I refuse to accept it and be one of those defeatist “well that’s just the way things are” kinda guys. I prefer to be one of those “this is the way things could be” kinda guys. 

It is frustrating to see so much suffering in this world and know that almost all of it is self-inflicted and born of ignorance.

 I believe we possess the power to change our collective circumstances and that’s where I lay my faith. 

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1/14/2026 5:06pm
We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands...

We are suffering and it’s starting show very much. We’re suffering from lack of meaning in our lives and even the most simple of men understands this road we’re on leads us only to ruin. After all, it doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. 

The nearly complete lack of empathy for others, epidemic laziness, loneliness, and mental illness. We are sick and dis-eased on a mass scale, but you’re only half wrong as we are materially rich and that keeps us placated and pacified. Tv and fast food is the new opium of the masses. We are spiritually bankrupt, morally deficient, and mostly devoid of reason, but we’ve got instagram and tic toc and pop culture. We are most definitely suffering, apparently not enough though. 

Edit* . I’ll add that maybe we are suffering enough, but people’s pineal glands are so calcified that the mass of humanity cannot even recognize their own suffering. Much less be able to act upon it. 

 

bodycast wrote:
I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.I would suggest getting your hands...

I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.

I would suggest getting your hands on a Bible and reading it.  You dont have to try to understand it fully or think out every word.  Just read it.  It helped me let go of some things and find some peace.  Im not a religious man nor do I go to church but it helped.  With that and my dirtbike things have gotten much better ill admit.

soggy wrote:

Imagine if you tried a therapist. 

Talked with mine today. I was rattling all kinds of shit off and he was writing notes. I stopped and asked him “so how many pages thick is the MVD is fucking crazy notebook?”. I just tell myself that he learns a lot from our sessions. 🤣

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1/14/2026 5:10pm
mvd61 wrote:
Talked with mine today. I was rattling all kinds of shit off and he was writing notes. I stopped and asked him “so how many pages...

Talked with mine today. I was rattling all kinds of shit off and he was writing notes. I stopped and asked him “so how many pages thick is the MVD is fucking crazy notebook?”. I just tell myself that he learns a lot from our sessions. 🤣

Good for you dude, too many people never take that step because of societies stigma around mental health.  The hardest part is making the commitment. 

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1/14/2026 5:41pm
bodycast wrote:
I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.I would suggest getting your hands...

I have curled up in a ball on my living room floor with anxiety over some heavy stuff in my life.

I would suggest getting your hands on a Bible and reading it.  You dont have to try to understand it fully or think out every word.  Just read it.  It helped me let go of some things and find some peace.  Im not a religious man nor do I go to church but it helped.  With that and my dirtbike things have gotten much better ill admit.

soggy wrote:

Imagine if you tried a therapist. 

mvd61 wrote:
Talked with mine today. I was rattling all kinds of shit off and he was writing notes. I stopped and asked him “so how many pages...

Talked with mine today. I was rattling all kinds of shit off and he was writing notes. I stopped and asked him “so how many pages thick is the MVD is fucking crazy notebook?”. I just tell myself that he learns a lot from our sessions. 🤣

I talked with myself today, does that count? I will say though, we haven't really agreed on the things we talked about. We'll talk some more tomorrow.

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1/14/2026 10:35pm
ToolMaker wrote:
I don't know so much who, but they really should be dependent on only jobs and inflation. Not a litany of other factors. And the criteria...

I don't know so much who, but they really should be dependent on only jobs and inflation. Not a litany of other factors. And the criteria should be set in advance that there's no ambiguity of what they are going to do. The country is not going to go in a hand basket in 3 months, so let's not include what might happen, let's make the decisions on what did happen. IE: we don't know what tariffs are going to do. Well, then adjust after you know what tariffs did, not what you think they may or may not do. Shit, next thing you know, they'll be asking the weather girl what's going to happen next week.

TM

So you back Powell then? Because thats exactly what he's been doing. 

1/15/2026 5:30am
ToolMaker wrote:
I don't know so much who, but they really should be dependent on only jobs and inflation. Not a litany of other factors. And the criteria...

I don't know so much who, but they really should be dependent on only jobs and inflation. Not a litany of other factors. And the criteria should be set in advance that there's no ambiguity of what they are going to do. The country is not going to go in a hand basket in 3 months, so let's not include what might happen, let's make the decisions on what did happen. IE: we don't know what tariffs are going to do. Well, then adjust after you know what tariffs did, not what you think they may or may not do. Shit, next thing you know, they'll be asking the weather girl what's going to happen next week.

TM

eins4eins wrote:

So you back Powell then? Because thats exactly what he's been doing. 

Either you haven't been listening to Powell or this is just click bait.

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