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Kmid514 11/14/2010 4:19pm
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Teams are ranked on what they have done. Boise beat both Oregon and TCU last year, no problems, on the way to their 23 game win streak. I know it's last season but when the teams return the majority of their starters, its hard to ignore.
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How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad...
How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad.

Idaho's stadium only seats 16,000 people. Wow.
Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.

Better yet, academics, and college powerhouse football in the same sentence is a total fail.

A good majority of those playing on full scholarship's at major universities, should not have even gotten out of high school, let alone playing at college level. I am all for fixing that also.

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mxknowitall 11/14/2010 6:38pm
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How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad...
How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad.

Idaho's stadium only seats 16,000 people. Wow.
jmar wrote:
[i]Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.[/i] Better yet, academics...
Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.

Better yet, academics, and college powerhouse football in the same sentence is a total fail.

A good majority of those playing on full scholarship's at major universities, should not have even gotten out of high school, let alone playing at college level. I am all for fixing that also.

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Yes, I agree the standards are too low. But then again if we raised them, we would probably be watching the powerhouse junior colleges...
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jmar 11/14/2010 7:00pm
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mxknowitall wrote:
How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad...
How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad.

Idaho's stadium only seats 16,000 people. Wow.
jmar wrote:
[i]Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.[/i] Better yet, academics...
Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.

Better yet, academics, and college powerhouse football in the same sentence is a total fail.

A good majority of those playing on full scholarship's at major universities, should not have even gotten out of high school, let alone playing at college level. I am all for fixing that also.

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mxknowitall wrote:
Yes, I agree the standards are too low. But then again if we raised them, we would probably be watching the powerhouse junior colleges...
Then so be it.

Collegiate athletic's is out of hand. How good would the powerhouses be if they had to play by the rules?

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mxknowitall wrote:
How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad...
How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad.

Idaho's stadium only seats 16,000 people. Wow.
jmar wrote:
[i]Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.[/i] Better yet, academics...
Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.

Better yet, academics, and college powerhouse football in the same sentence is a total fail.

A good majority of those playing on full scholarship's at major universities, should not have even gotten out of high school, let alone playing at college level. I am all for fixing that also.

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mxknowitall wrote:
Yes, I agree the standards are too low. But then again if we raised them, we would probably be watching the powerhouse junior colleges...
very true.

IF the NCAA were to get serious about enforcing rules, it would completely turn college athletics on it's head.

Newton wanted $150k plus to play for Miss St...nobody says they offered it, but he walked away and signed with Auburn...hmmmm...

There's far too much evidence that these kids are getting all kinds of favor$ from boo$ter$ to think that they go to these "powerhouse" schools just because of tradition.

Only time something happens is if it's gets too obvious or someone gets pissed off and decides to blow the whistle.
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jmar 11/15/2010 10:46am
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jmar wrote:
[i]Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.[/i] Better yet, academics...
Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.

Better yet, academics, and college powerhouse football in the same sentence is a total fail.

A good majority of those playing on full scholarship's at major universities, should not have even gotten out of high school, let alone playing at college level. I am all for fixing that also.

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mxknowitall wrote:
Yes, I agree the standards are too low. But then again if we raised them, we would probably be watching the powerhouse junior colleges...
txmxer wrote:
very true. IF the NCAA were to get serious about enforcing rules, it would completely turn college athletics on it's head. Newton wanted $150k plus to...
very true.

IF the NCAA were to get serious about enforcing rules, it would completely turn college athletics on it's head.

Newton wanted $150k plus to play for Miss St...nobody says they offered it, but he walked away and signed with Auburn...hmmmm...

There's far too much evidence that these kids are getting all kinds of favor$ from boo$ter$ to think that they go to these "powerhouse" schools just because of tradition.

Only time something happens is if it's gets too obvious or someone gets pissed off and decides to blow the whistle.
Just the fact that he was caught three times cheating on a term paper at FL. should have disqualified him from playing anywhere.

I hope either Alabama or South Carolina kick the living hell out of Auburn.
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txmxer 11/15/2010 12:13pm
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mxknowitall wrote:
How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad...
How can Boise State seriously think they deserve to play in the national championship when they are playing conference games like this? This game is sad.

Idaho's stadium only seats 16,000 people. Wow.
You are arguing for voting for the best because of their history. We need to end this voting crap is the real answer.

I want the system to get shaken up and I want outsiders to get assigned the championship so that the powers that be will get motivated to push for some type of tournament championship.

It won't be perfect, but, it would be difficult to argue that the best team was left out of an 8 (?) team championship playoff.

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mxknowitall 11/27/2010 7:53am
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I rest my case...
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yzthumpa 11/27/2010 10:51am
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A team like Boise St. can get up for one big game against a major, and big upsets happen in any conference. But there's a difference between playing a bunch of patsies all year then playing 1 big game as opposed to playing in a conference like the SEC and facing tough teams all season long. Heading into this weekend, the SEC West had 4 teams in the top 12. Not the SEC - the SEC WEST. Put Boise St. or TCU in a conference like that and no way in hell do they come close to an undefeated season. After last night at least one of the pretenders is out of the way. If they want respect, they have to earn it like Florida St. did when Bowden built them into a major player.
There's a reason they can't get some major schools to play a home and home with them - money. Their stadium holds 33,500 (with the removable bleachers added). Major schools have stadiums with 90-100K capacity. Are they going to get the same payday playing at Boise St.? Despite their tough conference schedule, LSU is opening against Oregon next year at the Dallas Cowboys' stadium. Compare that payday to a game at Boise St. They'll never get home and homes against majors - they have to earn their respect on the road.
lostboy819 11/27/2010 11:50am
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jmar wrote:
[i]Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.[/i] Better yet, academics...
Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.

Better yet, academics, and college powerhouse football in the same sentence is a total fail.

A good majority of those playing on full scholarship's at major universities, should not have even gotten out of high school, let alone playing at college level. I am all for fixing that also.

How about You?
The admissions director has nothing to do with what football players get in,They get in because they can play football, no honor students get bumped because of a football player.The one thing that most people don't understand is that the big Football programs like OU are self funded by the money the Football team brings in from TV , Ticket sales, merchandising,boosters etc etc.

Another thing people don't understand is that the Football program also funds a huge amount of the legitimate academic scholarships at the school so if you get rid of the football program a bunch of your honor students lose their scholarship. Now I am not so blind to think that all the football players would qualify to get in to the school without the football program, but when college football is the farm league for the NFL and with all the money involved education takes the back seat on the bus.

Education for legitimate students is made better not worse by the football program and more honor students get a full ride because of the money it brings in. College footbal is a business just like the NFL except that the college players dont get paid above the table.

So Jim don't feel bad for the students who took the honor classes and got the grades,feel glad that they get to go to college because of the money the football programs bring in.
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jmar 11/27/2010 9:21pm
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jmar wrote:
[i]Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.[/i] Better yet, academics...
Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.

Better yet, academics, and college powerhouse football in the same sentence is a total fail.

A good majority of those playing on full scholarship's at major universities, should not have even gotten out of high school, let alone playing at college level. I am all for fixing that also.

How about You?
lostboy819 wrote:
The admissions director has nothing to do with what football players get in,They get in because they can play football, no honor students get bumped because...
The admissions director has nothing to do with what football players get in,They get in because they can play football, no honor students get bumped because of a football player.The one thing that most people don't understand is that the big Football programs like OU are self funded by the money the Football team brings in from TV , Ticket sales, merchandising,boosters etc etc.

Another thing people don't understand is that the Football program also funds a huge amount of the legitimate academic scholarships at the school so if you get rid of the football program a bunch of your honor students lose their scholarship. Now I am not so blind to think that all the football players would qualify to get in to the school without the football program, but when college football is the farm league for the NFL and with all the money involved education takes the back seat on the bus.

Education for legitimate students is made better not worse by the football program and more honor students get a full ride because of the money it brings in. College footbal is a business just like the NFL except that the college players dont get paid above the table.

So Jim don't feel bad for the students who took the honor classes and got the grades,feel glad that they get to go to college because of the money the football programs bring in.
So Jim don't feel bad for the students who took the honor classes and got the grades,feel glad that they get to go to college because of the money the football programs bring in.

I don't agree. There hasn't been a study since 06 on how profitable (or not) college athletic programs really are. This is old but my guess is that in this down economy they are fewer programs making money today. With that said, I personally don't believe that any college that pays a coach 3 to 4 million, and spends a hundred + million on an athletic program has any business receiving state or federal tax dollars.

BTW: A lot of the money that funds these programs comes from student fees.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2008-05-16-financial-study_N.htm
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mxknowitall 11/27/2010 9:27pm
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jmar wrote:
[i]Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.[/i] Better yet, academics...
Good thing you're not an admissions director at a college. I would feel bad for all of the kids that took honors classes.

Better yet, academics, and college powerhouse football in the same sentence is a total fail.

A good majority of those playing on full scholarship's at major universities, should not have even gotten out of high school, let alone playing at college level. I am all for fixing that also.

How about You?
lostboy819 wrote:
The admissions director has nothing to do with what football players get in,They get in because they can play football, no honor students get bumped because...
The admissions director has nothing to do with what football players get in,They get in because they can play football, no honor students get bumped because of a football player.The one thing that most people don't understand is that the big Football programs like OU are self funded by the money the Football team brings in from TV , Ticket sales, merchandising,boosters etc etc.

Another thing people don't understand is that the Football program also funds a huge amount of the legitimate academic scholarships at the school so if you get rid of the football program a bunch of your honor students lose their scholarship. Now I am not so blind to think that all the football players would qualify to get in to the school without the football program, but when college football is the farm league for the NFL and with all the money involved education takes the back seat on the bus.

Education for legitimate students is made better not worse by the football program and more honor students get a full ride because of the money it brings in. College footbal is a business just like the NFL except that the college players dont get paid above the table.

So Jim don't feel bad for the students who took the honor classes and got the grades,feel glad that they get to go to college because of the money the football programs bring in.
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[i]So Jim don't feel bad for the students who took the honor classes and got the grades,feel glad that they get to go to college because...
So Jim don't feel bad for the students who took the honor classes and got the grades,feel glad that they get to go to college because of the money the football programs bring in.

I don't agree. There hasn't been a study since 06 on how profitable (or not) college athletic programs really are. This is old but my guess is that in this down economy they are fewer programs making money today. With that said, I personally don't believe that any college that pays a coach 3 to 4 million, and spends a hundred + million on an athletic program has any business receiving state or federal tax dollars.

BTW: A lot of the money that funds these programs comes from student fees.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2008-05-16-financial-study_N.htm
Most football programs(and some basketball programs) support the other sports.
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jmar 11/27/2010 9:32pm
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I rest my case...
What do you mean you rest your case. Boise St was beaten by a ranked team and now they have no right to a chance at the national championship. That's the way it works.

You had better hope that one of your favorite teams doesn't have to play Boise in one of the bowl games. In todays college football, there's no such thing as a team that can't be beaten. Even by those that come from a smaller conference. I would love to see the BCS put Boise and Ohio State together in a bowl game. Maybe it would teach the OSU president to keep his trap shut.
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jmar 11/27/2010 9:45pm
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A team like Boise St. can get up for one big game against a major, and big upsets happen in any conference. But there's a difference...
A team like Boise St. can get up for one big game against a major, and big upsets happen in any conference. But there's a difference between playing a bunch of patsies all year then playing 1 big game as opposed to playing in a conference like the SEC and facing tough teams all season long. Heading into this weekend, the SEC West had 4 teams in the top 12. Not the SEC - the SEC WEST. Put Boise St. or TCU in a conference like that and no way in hell do they come close to an undefeated season. After last night at least one of the pretenders is out of the way. If they want respect, they have to earn it like Florida St. did when Bowden built them into a major player.
There's a reason they can't get some major schools to play a home and home with them - money. Their stadium holds 33,500 (with the removable bleachers added). Major schools have stadiums with 90-100K capacity. Are they going to get the same payday playing at Boise St.? Despite their tough conference schedule, LSU is opening against Oregon next year at the Dallas Cowboys' stadium. Compare that payday to a game at Boise St. They'll never get home and homes against majors - they have to earn their respect on the road.
Your logic is flawed. You seem to have the mentality that only an SEC team should be playing for the title. LSU was booted today, and Auburn, the most corrupt team in college football barley hung on against Bama, and could fall next weekend. If that happens, should the BCS still send an SEC team to play for the title?

Just a little food for thought. Texas was one of the top rated teams going into the season. They have always been a powerhouse, and they played for the national title last year.

How did all that all work out for them this year?
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jmar 11/27/2010 9:54pm
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mxknowitall wrote:
Most football programs(and some basketball programs) support the other sports.
” According to Tim Sullivan, “SDSU profs say football `profit’ doesn’t add up’ Union Tribune (San Diego) (9 Nov. 2007), “`There's no other business in America that does its books like athletic departments,’ said Indiana University's Murray Sperber, author of “College Sports, Inc.” `I can't think of one (other business) that has the deep, deep subsidies.’” Sullivan continues his discussion of financial irregularities by noting, “Athletic departments customarily pay little or nothing for such items as office space, utilities and debt service incurred on new facilities. Their costs, therefore, tend to be significantly understated. Their pronouncements of profitability, in turn, tend to be met with cynicism. Thus, athletic directors are not the hard-nosed corporate executives that they think they are, because unlike corporate executives, athletic directors are not necessarily held accountable for failing to control costs. According to [economist] Andrew Zimbalist: `If there were true economic competition [in college sports], athletic directors would have to make wise decisions and spend money wisely or they would go out of business. But these programs don’t go out of business.”

That all depends on how the books are kept.

As a tax payer, I don't believe that I should be forced to pay state taxes to schools who spend so much money on their athletic programs.

http://www.zimbio.com/NCAA+Football/articles/17/Idiocy+Funding+College+…
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SEEMEFIRST 11/28/2010 12:36am
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YZ, they won't allow them in.
TCU is getting players, Boise just got a Texas kid who is a bad ass.
I'm not trying to shit on the SEC (Even though I believe they are substandard), but what will you say if one of these teams wins a bowl? "Yeah, they got up for one game"? Really?
If your chicken shit conference would play them, perhaps this wouldn't be an issue. Hell, my chickenshit conference won't play them...Why do you suppose that is?
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The Bronco's didn't get beat by some mediocre team.





#10 Colin Kaepernick



Position: Quarterback

Height: 6'6"

Weight: 225

Year: Senior

Hometown: Turlock, Calif. (Pitman HS)

Experience: 3 Letters









2010: Poised to become one of the premier quarterbacks in the country after three record-breaking seasons at Nevada … Has been named to the Watch List for the Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award … Has been named to the Watch List for the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award … Also named to the Watch Lists for the Walter Camp Award and the Maxwell Award … Has been named Preseason Offensive Player of the Year by Lindy’s … Has legitimate chance to become Nevada’s all-time leader in total offense as well as other passing categories, including touchdowns … Enters the season ranked 13th on the NCAA’s career rushing TDs by a quarterback list and ranks 12th on the all-time rushing yards by a QB list … Needs roughly 1,000 yards rushing and 1,000 yards passing to become just the second player in NCAA history to rush for 4,000 yards and throw for 8,000 yards (Brad Smith, Missouri) … Needs 694 rushing yards to be fourth player in NCAA history to throw for 7,000 yards and rush for 3,500 yards.



2009: Earned All-WAC honors again as he was named to the league’s second team … Earned the team’s Golden Helmet Award as the Most Valuable Player … Named Honorable Mention All-America by The Sporting News … Became the 10th quarterback in NCAA history to record back-to-back 1,000-yard rushing seasons … Became just the second player in NCAA history to record back-to-back seasons of 2,000 yards passing and 1,000 yards rushing … Was part of an NCAA-record-setting Nevada team that became the first squad in history to have three players rush for 1,000 yards in the same season … Rushed for 100 yards in a game five times, including a 230-yard output against Idaho that featured a career-long 75-yard TD run … Became one of just six players in NCAA history to have scored 200 points and passed for 200 points in a career … Became just the 13th player in NCAA history to rush for 2,000 yards and pass for 4,000 yards in a career … Ranks in the top 10 in most rushing and passing categories in Nevada history and is second all-time in total offense … Captured two more WAC Player of the Week awards (against Louisiana Tech and against Idaho) … He scored 16 rushing TDs and also had a receiving touchdown … Was voted the Western Athletic Conference's Preseason Offensive Player of the Year by the league's media for this season … Was named to the Watch List for the Maxwell Award, which is given annually to the nation's most outstanding player … Was named to the Watch List for the Davey O'Brien Award, given annually to the nation's top quarterback … Was named to the Watch List for the Manning Award, which is awarded annually after the bowl season to the nation's top quarterback … Named first-team Preseason All-WAC by Phil Steele's College Football Preview … Named first-team Preseason All-WAC by Athlon Sports … Named first-team Preseason All-WAC by Lindy's and was named the WAC's Preseason Offensive Player of the Year.


2008: Emerged as one of the country's most dangerous quarterbacks with a strong arm and quick feet ... His name was embedded in the national rankings in rushing, passing, pass efficiency, total offense and scoring ... Preseason honors included: All-WAC Second Team by Phil Steele's College Football Preview ... All-WAC Second Team by Athlon Sports ... All-WAC Second Team by Lindy's ... He was named the Western Athletic Conference Offensive Player of the Year in voting by the league's coaches following the regular season, becoming the second Nevada player, and first Wolf Pack quarterback to win that honor (B.J. Mitchell, 2005) ... He is the only quarterback in Nevada history to rush for more than 1,000 yards and he is just the fifth quarterback in NCAA Division I-A (FBS) history to throw for 2,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in the same season ... Finished the season 1,130 yards rushing, which ranks 22nd in NCAA history for rushing yards by a quarterback in a season … Rushed for at least 100 yards in a game four times (against UNLV, Hawai`i, Fresno State and San Jose State), including 240 yards against UNLV, the most rushing yards in a game by a quarterback in school history … Threw at least one touchdown in every game except for the opening win against Grambling State, in which he scored three rushing touchdowns … Threw for 767 yards and seven touchdowns in Nevada's final two games of the season, at Louisiana Tech and against Maryland in the Roady's Humanitarian Bowl game … His 102 points and 17 touchdowns scored are fifth on Nevada's single-season lists … Other single-season top 10 marks included: total offense (second), rushing yards (14th overall, most by a QCool , rushing touchdowns (second), passing yards (ninth), passing touchdowns (t-10th), completions (ninth) and attempts (ninth).



2007: Burst onto the scene in the fifth game of the year when he replaced the injured Nick Graziano at quarterback … Became the second Nevada player ever to be named the WAC Freshman of the Year (joining Chance Kretschmer, 2001) … In less than nine full games (eight starts), threw for 2,175 yards with 19 touchdowns and just three interceptions … Was second on the team, and eighth in the WAC, with 53.9 rushing yards per game … Also scored six rushing TDs … Was 10th nationally and third in the WAC in pass efficiency with a mark of 150.8 … Was fifth in the WAC and 41st nationally in total offense at 251.6 yards per game … Earned WAC Player of the Week award for his performance at New Mexico State, in which he accounted for five touchdowns with 237 yards passing and 136 yards rushing … Named rivals.com National Freshman of the Week for his play at Boise State: 243 yards passing with three touchdowns and 177 yards and two scores rushing … ESPN analyst Bill Curry called Kaepernick "the best young freshman quarterback I have ever seen in my life" during the Boise State game … Given the team's Fireman's Award for stepping up in a time of need … Earned honorable mention freshman All-America honors from The Sporting News and College Football News.



2006: Redshirted his first season at Nevada and directed the offensive scout team.

High School

A graduate of Pitman High School in Turlock, Calif. … Earned first-team all-district, all-conference and all-academic honors … Was named the Central Cal Conference MVP … Participated in the Berkeley and Las Vegas "Elite 11" camps … Completed 112-of-188 passing attempts for 1,954 yards as a senior … Tossed 25 touchdowns with just six interceptions that year.





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88, Colin's story is pretty damn cool, how he came from a mother who had to give him up at birth and was adopted by his now parents. I have a little brother who was adopted when he was 3 (now 17) and this story made me an instant fan, and that dude can run like Forest Gump.

They were also saying he could of went baseball and has a 90mph fastball.

Talented kid with a heart warming story.
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Yup, a true inspirational story. Here is more on it from wiki:

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Kaepernick was born by a single mom (his mother is white and father believed an African-American [1] [2] ); ): his biological father left when he found out about pregnancy. His mother was 19, and decided to put her child up for adoption to give him a chance at a better life.[2] When he was five weeks old, he was adopted by Rick and Teresa Kaepernick, a white couple from New London, Wisconsin. They had two healthy children before losing their next two to heart defects shortly after birth.[1] Kaepernick has three siblings, sister-in-law, Lindsayan, older brother, Kyle and older sister, Devon. He primarily grew up in Turlock, California attending elementary, junior, and senior high school all at there. He currently spends most of his time in Reno, Nevada attending school and playing football for the University of Nevada Wolf Pack. He is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity. At Nevada, his biological mother, who had remained in touch with his parents, established contact through Facebook. They have exchanged occasional messages, but they never meet.[2]

Kaepernick, who studies Business Management, has a relatively unassuming personality off the field, as evidenced by an incident that took place during the summer of 2010 interning at a University of Nevada-themed sports apparel shop in Reno. One woman came in and, completely unaware she was speaking to Kaepernick, asked him to find his jersey. A manager at the store would later recall, "Colin goes, ‘I’m pretty sure it’s No. 10, and it’s right over here.’ He rang up her purchase and everything."[1]


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WORCSRacer 11/28/2010 1:41pm
11/28/2010 1:41pm Edited Date/Time 11/28/2010 5:03pm
yzthumpa wrote:
A team like Boise St. can get up for one big game against a major, and big upsets happen in any conference. But there's a difference...
A team like Boise St. can get up for one big game against a major, and big upsets happen in any conference. But there's a difference between playing a bunch of patsies all year then playing 1 big game as opposed to playing in a conference like the SEC and facing tough teams all season long. Heading into this weekend, the SEC West had 4 teams in the top 12. Not the SEC - the SEC WEST. Put Boise St. or TCU in a conference like that and no way in hell do they come close to an undefeated season. After last night at least one of the pretenders is out of the way. If they want respect, they have to earn it like Florida St. did when Bowden built them into a major player.
There's a reason they can't get some major schools to play a home and home with them - money. Their stadium holds 33,500 (with the removable bleachers added). Major schools have stadiums with 90-100K capacity. Are they going to get the same payday playing at Boise St.? Despite their tough conference schedule, LSU is opening against Oregon next year at the Dallas Cowboys' stadium. Compare that payday to a game at Boise St. They'll never get home and homes against majors - they have to earn their respect on the road.
jmar wrote:
Your logic is flawed. You seem to have the mentality that only an SEC team should be playing for the title. LSU was booted today, and...
Your logic is flawed. You seem to have the mentality that only an SEC team should be playing for the title. LSU was booted today, and Auburn, the most corrupt team in college football barley hung on against Bama, and could fall next weekend. If that happens, should the BCS still send an SEC team to play for the title?

Just a little food for thought. Texas was one of the top rated teams going into the season. They have always been a powerhouse, and they played for the national title last year.

How did all that all work out for them this year?
Come on Jim don't single out Auburn... Look at the SEC it's a bunch of good ol' boys just playin' ball. Of course, the Commissioner of the SEC runs the BCS. The BCS games generate more revenue as the Super Bowl. Do you really think the NCAA will say shit about anything that goes on in that conference? How about the 40 plus felony arrests of Florida football players under Urban Meyers watch or the fact that Bobby Bowden only started losing games when he started losing wealthy "supporters". Cam Newton is just the latest in a very very long string of "we don't want to look at it too close 'cause it's bad for the game son" deals in the SEC. It's ridiculous.



College football is a fucking joke and it's unbelievable that while colleges and universities rake in millions and millions of dollars most of the players in the D1 programs leave broken and forgotten and no one will say anything.
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jmar 11/28/2010 2:42pm
11/28/2010 2:42pm Edited Date/Time 11/28/2010 3:43pm
yzthumpa wrote:
A team like Boise St. can get up for one big game against a major, and big upsets happen in any conference. But there's a difference...
A team like Boise St. can get up for one big game against a major, and big upsets happen in any conference. But there's a difference between playing a bunch of patsies all year then playing 1 big game as opposed to playing in a conference like the SEC and facing tough teams all season long. Heading into this weekend, the SEC West had 4 teams in the top 12. Not the SEC - the SEC WEST. Put Boise St. or TCU in a conference like that and no way in hell do they come close to an undefeated season. After last night at least one of the pretenders is out of the way. If they want respect, they have to earn it like Florida St. did when Bowden built them into a major player.
There's a reason they can't get some major schools to play a home and home with them - money. Their stadium holds 33,500 (with the removable bleachers added). Major schools have stadiums with 90-100K capacity. Are they going to get the same payday playing at Boise St.? Despite their tough conference schedule, LSU is opening against Oregon next year at the Dallas Cowboys' stadium. Compare that payday to a game at Boise St. They'll never get home and homes against majors - they have to earn their respect on the road.
jmar wrote:
Your logic is flawed. You seem to have the mentality that only an SEC team should be playing for the title. LSU was booted today, and...
Your logic is flawed. You seem to have the mentality that only an SEC team should be playing for the title. LSU was booted today, and Auburn, the most corrupt team in college football barley hung on against Bama, and could fall next weekend. If that happens, should the BCS still send an SEC team to play for the title?

Just a little food for thought. Texas was one of the top rated teams going into the season. They have always been a powerhouse, and they played for the national title last year.

How did all that all work out for them this year?
WORCSRacer wrote:
Come on Jim don't single out Auburn... Look at the SEC it's a bunch of good ol' boys just playin' ball. Of course, the Commissioner of...
Come on Jim don't single out Auburn... Look at the SEC it's a bunch of good ol' boys just playin' ball. Of course, the Commissioner of the SEC runs the BCS. The BCS games generate more revenue as the Super Bowl. Do you really think the NCAA will say shit about anything that goes on in that conference? How about the 40 plus felony arrests of Florida football players under Urban Meyers watch or the fact that Bobby Bowden only started losing games when he started losing wealthy "supporters". Cam Newton is just the latest in a very very long string of "we don't want to look at it too close 'cause it's bad for the game son" deals in the SEC. It's ridiculous.



College football is a fucking joke and it's unbelievable that while colleges and universities rake in millions and millions of dollars most of the players in the D1 programs leave broken and forgotten and no one will say anything.
Cam Newton's issue is as, in your face, as it get's. Forget about the he said, she said stuff about asking for monies for signing on the dotted line. The fact that he was caught not once, but three times cheating at FL. That alone should have disqualified him from being NCAA eligible.
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NV825 11/28/2010 3:36pm
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I was fortunate enough to have a couple classes with Colin before I graduated last May and he was a really nice guy who could actually carry a conversation and turn in decent assignments. I'm so happy to see them do so well, Reno on Friday night was crazy!
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mxknowitall 11/29/2010 6:58am
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Most football programs(and some basketball programs) support the other sports.
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[i]” According to Tim Sullivan, “SDSU profs say football `profit’ doesn’t add up’ Union Tribune (San Diego) (9 Nov. 2007), “`There's no other business in America...
” According to Tim Sullivan, “SDSU profs say football `profit’ doesn’t add up’ Union Tribune (San Diego) (9 Nov. 2007), “`There's no other business in America that does its books like athletic departments,’ said Indiana University's Murray Sperber, author of “College Sports, Inc.” `I can't think of one (other business) that has the deep, deep subsidies.’” Sullivan continues his discussion of financial irregularities by noting, “Athletic departments customarily pay little or nothing for such items as office space, utilities and debt service incurred on new facilities. Their costs, therefore, tend to be significantly understated. Their pronouncements of profitability, in turn, tend to be met with cynicism. Thus, athletic directors are not the hard-nosed corporate executives that they think they are, because unlike corporate executives, athletic directors are not necessarily held accountable for failing to control costs. According to [economist] Andrew Zimbalist: `If there were true economic competition [in college sports], athletic directors would have to make wise decisions and spend money wisely or they would go out of business. But these programs don’t go out of business.”

That all depends on how the books are kept.

As a tax payer, I don't believe that I should be forced to pay state taxes to schools who spend so much money on their athletic programs.

http://www.zimbio.com/NCAA+Football/articles/17/Idiocy+Funding+College+…
What the hell is zimbio.com? Are you going to post a link to some guys geocities page next?
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mxknowitall 11/29/2010 7:02am
11/29/2010 7:02am Edited Date/Time 11/29/2010 7:03am
http://sports.espn.go.com/...ews/story?id=2337810



Here are some stats from the U.S. Dept. of Education, but I'm sure you'll just say they're part of the "scam."




"Nearly all of the top 60 football and top 75 basketball programs are profitable. University of Texas football set the pace in the 2004-05 academic year by taking in $53.2 million in revenue, with expenses of $14.5 million, according to a report filed by the school with the U.S. Department of Education."
lostboy819 11/29/2010 8:58pm
11/29/2010 8:58pm Edited Date/Time 11/29/2010 9:00pm
mxknowitall wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/...ews/story?id=2337810 Here are some stats from the U.S. Dept. of Education, but I'm sure you'll just say they're part of the "scam." "Nearly all of the...
http://sports.espn.go.com/...ews/story?id=2337810



Here are some stats from the U.S. Dept. of Education, but I'm sure you'll just say they're part of the "scam."




"Nearly all of the top 60 football and top 75 basketball programs are profitable. University of Texas football set the pace in the 2004-05 academic year by taking in $53.2 million in revenue, with expenses of $14.5 million, according to a report filed by the school with the U.S. Department of Education."
Oklahoma is 15th on that list and the football program kicks in money to help fund if not fully fund numerous programs at the university. I grew up in Oklahoma and I am a big Sooner fan and my older brother teaches a advanced criminal law course at OU. Its a great school and a great football program.Still dont know why Jmar is so bitter about OU and college athletics in general.
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jmar 11/29/2010 9:10pm
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mxknowitall wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/...ews/story?id=2337810 Here are some stats from the U.S. Dept. of Education, but I'm sure you'll just say they're part of the "scam." "Nearly all of the...
http://sports.espn.go.com/...ews/story?id=2337810



Here are some stats from the U.S. Dept. of Education, but I'm sure you'll just say they're part of the "scam."




"Nearly all of the top 60 football and top 75 basketball programs are profitable. University of Texas football set the pace in the 2004-05 academic year by taking in $53.2 million in revenue, with expenses of $14.5 million, according to a report filed by the school with the U.S. Department of Education."
lostboy819 wrote:
Oklahoma is 15th on that list and the football program kicks in money to help fund if not fully fund numerous programs at the university. I...
Oklahoma is 15th on that list and the football program kicks in money to help fund if not fully fund numerous programs at the university. I grew up in Oklahoma and I am a big Sooner fan and my older brother teaches a advanced criminal law course at OU. Its a great school and a great football program.Still dont know why Jmar is so bitter about OU and college athletics in general.
When was the last time you put a kid through college?

If all this money is being made by the athletic programs, then why does the tuition and student fees go up each and every year?

The cost is getting way out of hand.
lostboy819 11/29/2010 11:48pm
11/29/2010 11:48pm Edited Date/Time 11/29/2010 11:48pm
jmar wrote:
When was the last time you put a kid through college? If all this money is being made by the athletic programs, then why does the...
When was the last time you put a kid through college?

If all this money is being made by the athletic programs, then why does the tuition and student fees go up each and every year?

The cost is getting way out of hand.
Yes it is and we can agree on that my friend. One thing about the big universities is no matter how much money they get from the state or federal goverment or grants and tuition it never gets any cheaper. I have two boys who I hope will get some sort of scholarship and that is one good thing that there are so many different types of scholarships other than athletic. Even if they don't , we have been doing real well on their education funds so they will not miss out on the oportunity due to lack of money.

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