Discrimination at Mini O's

MxDaD324 wrote:

If you stood up and said you wouldnt want to be on the gate next to him you would be the first. EVERYBODY we have ever...

If you stood up and said you wouldnt want to be on the gate next to him you would be the first. EVERYBODY we have ever talked to or raced with have considered it an honor to be on the track with someone like him. As far as falling and not being able to get up or lift your bike thats all a BS excuse. How many times have you seen someone trapped under their bike and couldnt get up? Probably thousands!!! Hell i have seen people that cant even lift their bike off the ground. No offense but half the women i know that race cant.
Bottom line is they have discriminated against him because of his disability. They dont have the right to deny him because of what they think could possibly happen. There is no rule in the AMA book that makes him ineligible and there is no rule at the track that renders him ineligible. This was a personal call on their behalf and im sorry but its discrimination!!

Grieby54 wrote:

Number of times I haven't been able to lift my bike up off me in my riding career - once. Number of times Darius won't be...

Number of times I haven't been able to lift my bike up off me in my riding career - once. Number of times Darius won't be able to pick up his bike from now on - every time. Tell me the risk is the same. You can't. For every other rider, that is a small possibility, for Darius, it is the 100% reality. I'm sure Darius is a kick ass rider and an awesome dude. I would love to rip around with someone who has half his heart, but the fact of the matter is there's no way you can just show up to a huge race an expect the run it without having called ahead and ironed out the details. Apparently, you need to google the definition of discrimination, because that's not it. Oh... And clearly they do have the right to turn him away... Because they did. Step away from the keyboard before you break it throwing your fit.

DanDunes818 wrote:

Grieby you're a genuine douche bag. I'm fine w/you believing what you believe but the way you go about conveying your beliefs are moronic. You need...

Grieby you're a genuine douche bag. I'm fine w/you believing what you believe but the way you go about conveying your beliefs are moronic. You need to step away from your keyboard you pompous prick.

Darius is just another rider trying to enjoy our sport. Oh, and it just happens to be the sport that took his legs away. I love all the morons on here that say there's a possibility he'd sue the track owners or promoters. Did he sue the owners of the track where he had his paralyzing accident.. Fck no!!!

Mstock wrote:

Let the lawyers and judges sort this one out. Not worth discussing on a internet message board.

DanDunes818 wrote:

Billy Jack you're right. I do have a pattern of calling douche bags what they are. Don't blame me for calling a spade a spade. It's...

Billy Jack you're right. I do have a pattern of calling douche bags what they are. Don't blame me for calling a spade a spade.

It's not what Grieby posted that got him the douche bag comment but how he posted it. I'm am 100% in favor of everyone having their personal opinions and freely posting those opinions. It's a fact that the majority of people in this thread, to my surprise, share a similar opinion as Grieby. Did you hear me say anything about anyone else? No! I did state a generalized opinion about those that say there's a chance Darius would sue. I stand behind my opinion that those posters are morons. A guy ends up in a wheelchair from a MX crash he had at a MX park and nobody was sued tries to race and some posters say he shouldn't because he might sue? IMO if you think there's any chance he'd sue now if he crashed again you're a moron.

You stated everyone has a right to their opinion and I agree. If my opinion is that a certain post is moronic or a certain poster is a moron I to have the write to state my opinion.

iudi2006 wrote:

X2 DanDunes I've been reading all his posts and thinking the same thing.

DanDunes818 wrote:

Billy Jack you're right. I do have a pattern of calling douche bags what they are. Don't blame me for calling a spade a spade. It's...

Billy Jack you're right. I do have a pattern of calling douche bags what they are. Don't blame me for calling a spade a spade.

It's not what Grieby posted that got him the douche bag comment but how he posted it. I'm am 100% in favor of everyone having their personal opinions and freely posting those opinions. It's a fact that the majority of people in this thread, to my surprise, share a similar opinion as Grieby. Did you hear me say anything about anyone else? No! I did state a generalized opinion about those that say there's a chance Darius would sue. I stand behind my opinion that those posters are morons. A guy ends up in a wheelchair from a MX crash he had at a MX park and nobody was sued tries to race and some posters say he shouldn't because he might sue? IMO if you think there's any chance he'd sue now if he crashed again you're a moron.

You stated everyone has a right to their opinion and I agree. If my opinion is that a certain post is moronic or a certain poster is a moron I to have the write to state my opinion.

Grieby54 wrote:

So if I toss in some personal attacks like calling you a douche bag, I'll be ok?

DanDunes818 wrote:

Grieby that is totally fine by me..Do your thing..

iudi2006 wrote:

X2 DanDunes I've been reading all his posts and thinking the same thing.

Grieby54 wrote:

I'm flattered that you've been following me.

DanDunes818 wrote:

Billy Jack you're right. I do have a pattern of calling douche bags what they are. Don't blame me for calling a spade a spade. It's...

Billy Jack you're right. I do have a pattern of calling douche bags what they are. Don't blame me for calling a spade a spade.

It's not what Grieby posted that got him the douche bag comment but how he posted it. I'm am 100% in favor of everyone having their personal opinions and freely posting those opinions. It's a fact that the majority of people in this thread, to my surprise, share a similar opinion as Grieby. Did you hear me say anything about anyone else? No! I did state a generalized opinion about those that say there's a chance Darius would sue. I stand behind my opinion that those posters are morons. A guy ends up in a wheelchair from a MX crash he had at a MX park and nobody was sued tries to race and some posters say he shouldn't because he might sue? IMO if you think there's any chance he'd sue now if he crashed again you're a moron.

You stated everyone has a right to their opinion and I agree. If my opinion is that a certain post is moronic or a certain poster is a moron I to have the write to state my opinion.

MxDaD324 wrote:

You ever been to a race with him? Tracks dont do shit to prepare for him because they dont have to. He has a support cast...

You ever been to a race with him? Tracks dont do shit to prepare for him because they dont have to. He has a support cast of people around the track that will help him if he needs it.

MxDaD324 wrote:

Tell me this isnt some bullshit. My buddy Darius Glover who some of you know is paralyzed. Drove from MD to Mini O's so he could...

Tell me this isnt some bullshit. My buddy Darius Glover who some of you know is paralyzed. Drove from MD to Mini O's so he could race and they turned him away. Said he couldnt moto because he was a liability on the track. After an all day ordeal the AMA finally said he could now he is in wait mode for the track promoter/owner to approve. This is complete joke!!!

MxDaD324 wrote:

You ever been to a race with him? Tracks dont do shit to prepare for him because they dont have to. He has a support cast...

You ever been to a race with him? Tracks dont do shit to prepare for him because they dont have to. He has a support cast of people around the track that will help him if he needs it.

newmann wrote:

I can imagine there would be plenty of people willing to step up when he was out on the track. This used to be a sport...

I can imagine there would be plenty of people willing to step up when he was out on the track. This used to be a sport where people helped each other out and did whatever was necessary to help a fellow racer get ready for the next moto. Pussification of America here folks.

builtlusktough wrote:

Hey everyone, I am Shane Lusk, Ezra Lusk's younger brother. I broke my neck in 2004 and was immediately paralyzed from the cervical level 5 and...

Hey everyone, I am Shane Lusk, Ezra Lusk's younger brother. I broke my neck in 2004 and was immediately paralyzed from the cervical level 5 and down. I have since made a pretty remarkable recovery but I do have to walk with a forearm crutch. I cannot run or do many things with my feet that I used to. Nor can I do a full sit up because my abdominal muscles are not fully functional. I can ride a dirtbike and have ridden.



Make an adaptive class or stagger him behind the C class. I know exactly what it feels like to have to ride like he does, what every rut, hard spot, slick spot, loamy spot feels like when you cannot take your legs off the pegs. I also know what it feels like to not have full trunk strngth, even though he is a para, there is no way his abdominal muscles all work fully. Gatorback is muddy in the am, rutted in the middle, rutted and glass in the evening, and with some serious pot holes and hills. My respect for this kid is through the roof and I teared up watching that video, but I know what the speeds are like in these classes at an amateur national especially a gnarly track like Gatorback and I do not feel he would be safe taking off in the middle of all those guys. Outside gate, last, yes.



An amateur national like this is an "able-bodied" sport with "able-bodied" classes, and as a track owner/promoter/quadriplegic myself I realize you have to look at it like this. Maybe the Gatorback crew jumped the gun, but just as an "opinion" I would not feel safe letting him race at THIS event. Maybe an "adaptive" class could have been created and staggered behind the Supermini or Schoolboy class or Vet class or something. Sure he'd be the only one in it but he'd be on the track and all parties covered.



The thing is you have to realize is this isn't X Games with an adaptive class, it is an Amateur National with all able-bodied athletes and classes. His balance is impaired and his muscle memory and reaction time is impaired, no two ways about it. I know, I have ridden post-traumatic-spinal injury and know what it feels like.



Darius-I will talk to Wyn and we will make an adaptive class for us next year and we can battle it out on the great Gatorback, I promise. I will see if I can get him to pay your way down too, the situation can be fixed and made for a great future for us fallen riders without bashing tracks owners and tracks. We need these events and rides and families more than ever, stop the negativity.



Shane Lusk

builtlusktough.com

Darius 117 wrote:

Hey Shane this is Darius Glover and i wanted to tell u thank you thank you for taking the time out to talk to the owner...

Hey Shane this is Darius Glover and i wanted to tell u thank you thank you for taking the time out to talk to the owner and trying to make a class. i appreciate evrything that you are trying to do but no offense but i am a paraplegic which is a little differnt i have abdominal use i work out and do therapy 3-4 times a week no i cannot walk fully with out a walker (with a walker i can a little bit) i have been training and all for this race . i race budds creek and many othere ttracks all along the east coast.i sat out there today and watched the C and the B class and if they let mee out there to race today i would have qualifyed for the main and more than like had a top 10 finish. If i can race budds creek muddy dry slipery hard packed any condition!! i have rode budds creek in all the conditions possible, so if i can ride and race there gatorback is a peice of cake to me i can do every jump here and have decent lap times at the same time. to everyone also thank you for all your opinions. i even asked them to let everyone go and i would chase them down and they wouldnt let me. i would have even took an out side gate but there is no need because i am just as fast i have just as much skill as thses kids out here and i dont even have the use of my legs!! they could have at least let me go in practice and see my skill or when everyone was finished let me take a few laps that woulda been awsome but they didnt care that i drove all this way to race and i had help with me if needed. they couldnt even come up with an excusse for me not to ride the head referree made the decision on the spot he went from its a liabillity for other riders i offered to get the other riders to sign somthing to say they want me to ride and they still ssaid no. then they said that other riders would complain about me being out there when they didnt wanted me to ride with them. i mean its soo much that they could have done but its like they didnt even care i have my ama card and i am a racer and member just like everyone else out there on the track and to shane dude i would love to ride with you just let me know when you are ready i have a practice bike if you need to ride it dude you are awsome and also thanks hicks pops and ryan i love u guys you always support me no matter what!!!!

builtlusktough wrote:

Hey everyone, I am Shane Lusk, Ezra Lusk's younger brother. I broke my neck in 2004 and was immediately paralyzed from the cervical level 5 and...

Hey everyone, I am Shane Lusk, Ezra Lusk's younger brother. I broke my neck in 2004 and was immediately paralyzed from the cervical level 5 and down. I have since made a pretty remarkable recovery but I do have to walk with a forearm crutch. I cannot run or do many things with my feet that I used to. Nor can I do a full sit up because my abdominal muscles are not fully functional. I can ride a dirtbike and have ridden.



Make an adaptive class or stagger him behind the C class. I know exactly what it feels like to have to ride like he does, what every rut, hard spot, slick spot, loamy spot feels like when you cannot take your legs off the pegs. I also know what it feels like to not have full trunk strngth, even though he is a para, there is no way his abdominal muscles all work fully. Gatorback is muddy in the am, rutted in the middle, rutted and glass in the evening, and with some serious pot holes and hills. My respect for this kid is through the roof and I teared up watching that video, but I know what the speeds are like in these classes at an amateur national especially a gnarly track like Gatorback and I do not feel he would be safe taking off in the middle of all those guys. Outside gate, last, yes.



An amateur national like this is an "able-bodied" sport with "able-bodied" classes, and as a track owner/promoter/quadriplegic myself I realize you have to look at it like this. Maybe the Gatorback crew jumped the gun, but just as an "opinion" I would not feel safe letting him race at THIS event. Maybe an "adaptive" class could have been created and staggered behind the Supermini or Schoolboy class or Vet class or something. Sure he'd be the only one in it but he'd be on the track and all parties covered.



The thing is you have to realize is this isn't X Games with an adaptive class, it is an Amateur National with all able-bodied athletes and classes. His balance is impaired and his muscle memory and reaction time is impaired, no two ways about it. I know, I have ridden post-traumatic-spinal injury and know what it feels like.



Darius-I will talk to Wyn and we will make an adaptive class for us next year and we can battle it out on the great Gatorback, I promise. I will see if I can get him to pay your way down too, the situation can be fixed and made for a great future for us fallen riders without bashing tracks owners and tracks. We need these events and rides and families more than ever, stop the negativity.



Shane Lusk

builtlusktough.com