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I listened to last nights show. The part where a former team manager made a move to take Kenny Watson"s job struck me as odd. Is this sort of thing common in this business?



I wont name the guy, as he knows who he is. Someone I always respected, but not so sure now.



I wondered if he might offer his side of the story so I can stop thinking of him as a bitch?
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swizcore 9/28/2010 7:54pm
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I think you'd be hard pressed to find a sport with more double talk.
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rcannon 9/28/2010 8:32pm
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Probably so, but the guy made a real low life move on Kenny and is a scumbag-mf'er..and a very poor team manager back when he had the chance!
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swizcore 9/28/2010 8:36pm
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I thought he came across as a very dedicated manager who gave his all and expected no less from those working with him; on the same note I'm not surprised he did K-Dub kinda dirty, mostly because its apparent how bad he wants back in to the managerial ranks.

I just wish there were more "Marc Pelligrino's" in the sport.
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rcannon 9/28/2010 9:05pm
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Yes, all good points. I guess I am wondering this. Could I ever get desperate enough to be willing to cut a friends nuts off for a job? I have had the chance to do that, a REALLY good opportunity, and backed off as the guy who would have been fired needed the job worse than I did. I'm no saint, and that very well might have been the only nice thing I ever did, but I slept good that night.
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swizcore 9/28/2010 9:27pm
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That brings it back to point A; MX lacking integrity and forthrightness, even(especially) when its uncomfortable.
Does this come from the overall young age group which comprises the participants; an age group where integrity isn't major-ally standard? Which causes the management dealing with them to deal on their wavelength?

Who knows, maybe its just like every other industry and with ours as small as it is, the disparaging details just aren't well kept secrets?
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Rizzo 9/28/2010 9:27pm
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Watson has sacrificed and worked very hard to be where he is. Being a team mgr is not easy and being one for a private team has even greater challenges IMO. Reporting to a mfg or working for a major corp ie (Honda, Suz, Kaw etc) can be a bit easier than reporting to John Smith Racing, who's name is on the door and has limited resources. IMO, there are a lot more things riding on the smaller operation, less margin for error and a lot more accountability to go with it.

Managing the team and managing his relationship with Hart could each be considered full time jobs, he does both and a lot of the industry guys who have "been around," I don't think they would last long in that environment.(New School vs Old) Kenny is an easy target for some because of the tat's and the personna of Vegas, etc etc, but, behind the scenes, there is a lot more to it. When jobs are few and far between and money is tight, people will line up to point fingers right.......regardless of the profession, the pay grade or the position. Cmon, I can empty the trash better than that guy, sheesh, he sucks.
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rcannon 9/28/2010 9:46pm
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LOL! Yes, I hated to hear Kenny getting f'ed as you can hear the passion he has for the sport and team. Yea, he goofs a lot, but his seriousness and dedication is amazing.

Hell, he shoudl probably be fired so he can be a million dollar radio host. The guy is dammed funny as well!
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typ2vw159 9/29/2010 2:07pm
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Steve Cox is just a D-bag now get over it,Never liked the guy after he played little chump games at every track he went to. (national security d-bag)
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Moto East Mag 9/29/2010 2:58pm
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swizcore wrote:
That brings it back to point A; MX lacking integrity and forthrightness, even(especially) when its uncomfortable. Does this come from the overall young age group which...
That brings it back to point A; MX lacking integrity and forthrightness, even(especially) when its uncomfortable.
Does this come from the overall young age group which comprises the participants; an age group where integrity isn't major-ally standard? Which causes the management dealing with them to deal on their wavelength?

Who knows, maybe its just like every other industry and with ours as small as it is, the disparaging details just aren't well kept secrets?
The closest comparison I could draw to the mx industry would be the music industry in terms of regulation, loyalty, and the flake factor of many of the participants.
And then there is the EGO. Huge factor in both industries. Hell, even the guy selling spark plugs down at the bike shop will rock star ya.
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swizcore 9/29/2010 3:53pm
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swizcore wrote:
That brings it back to point A; MX lacking integrity and forthrightness, even(especially) when its uncomfortable. Does this come from the overall young age group which...
That brings it back to point A; MX lacking integrity and forthrightness, even(especially) when its uncomfortable.
Does this come from the overall young age group which comprises the participants; an age group where integrity isn't major-ally standard? Which causes the management dealing with them to deal on their wavelength?

Who knows, maybe its just like every other industry and with ours as small as it is, the disparaging details just aren't well kept secrets?
Moto East Mag wrote:
The closest comparison I could draw to the mx industry would be the music industry in terms of regulation, loyalty, and the flake factor of many...
The closest comparison I could draw to the mx industry would be the music industry in terms of regulation, loyalty, and the flake factor of many of the participants.
And then there is the EGO. Huge factor in both industries. Hell, even the guy selling spark plugs down at the bike shop will rock star ya.
That is the perfect parallel.
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rcannon 9/29/2010 4:50pm
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Interesting that the guy "we" are talking about posts here, but has not found a way to respond. Makes me believe his botch move is true.

You guys here rock. I am a mod on Thumpertalk (entry level, Yamaha 2 stroke section) and got off to a bad start here and misjudged the place. Sorry. I'll be back. Meanwhile, join up over there if you love Yamaha 2 strokes.
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Blake 9/30/2010 8:49am
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Why is Cox mentioned in this thread?

It was the other guy.
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So, who's the guy here who tried to steal Kenny's job?

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Blake 10/2/2010 6:49pm
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Listen to the Podcast. Watson had me cracking up at some of his stories.
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Sunhouse 10/3/2010 6:05am
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* wrote:
So, who's the guy here who tried to steal Kenny's job?

Dave Osterman. How can you judge someone so easily when you've only heard one side of the story? Kenny Watson has a huge advantage on getting his side of the story out because of the show, but in reality things might be a little different.... Watson may be a cool co-host, but he isnt exactly a genious. There is always two sides to a story
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* wrote:
So, who's the guy here who tried to steal Kenny's job?

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Dave Osterman. How can you judge someone so easily when you've only heard one side of the story? Kenny Watson has a huge advantage on getting...
Dave Osterman. How can you judge someone so easily when you've only heard one side of the story? Kenny Watson has a huge advantage on getting his side of the story out because of the show, but in reality things might be a little different.... Watson may be a cool co-host, but he isnt exactly a genious. There is always two sides to a story
That's exactly who I thought it was.
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rcannon wrote:
I listened to last nights show. The part where a former team manager made a move to take Kenny Watson"s job struck me as odd. Is...
I listened to last nights show. The part where a former team manager made a move to take Kenny Watson"s job struck me as odd. Is this sort of thing common in this business?



I wont name the guy, as he knows who he is. Someone I always respected, but not so sure now.



I wondered if he might offer his side of the story so I can stop thinking of him as a bitch?
Which podcast was it - Title / Date?

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Ryan_Huddleston 10/3/2010 8:00pm
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ok no one insults National Security videos!!!! travis steward and the rest of the Vurb guys great guys that are extremely committed to this sport that a majority of you negative nannies are goons at the track boner airing and butt whipping ever jump! Steve Cox is the man too!
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Ryan_Huddleston wrote:
ok no one insults National Security videos!!!! travis steward and the rest of the Vurb guys great guys that are extremely committed to this sport that...
ok no one insults National Security videos!!!! travis steward and the rest of the Vurb guys great guys that are extremely committed to this sport that a majority of you negative nannies are goons at the track boner airing and butt whipping ever jump! Steve Cox is the man too!
What, did I miss something??
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Matthes has all kinds of podcasts up there.

what is the title of the podcast that it is the subject of this post?
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Mike D 10/3/2010 11:39pm
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Jarid332 wrote:
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DanDunes818 wrote:
http://www.pulpmx.com/pulpmx-show/archives

Dan, thanks.

There are a lot of podcasts on there. I want to know what the title of the show is that is the subject of this thread.
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swizcore 10/4/2010 8:55am
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2:45:00 mark of the last show with Kehoe and Canard.
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swizcore wrote:
2:45:00 mark of the last show with Kehoe and Canard.
Excellent - that's what I was asking for. I don't have time to go through the last several podcasts.

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