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As soon as it's legal, I can see court challenges to testing for it because unlike a BAC test, the tests for marijuana don't correlate to the degree of impairment. They just indicate exposure in the recent past. And they'll argue that it's unconstitutional to deny the right to work due to an undefined prior exposure to a legal substance. And the 9th Circuit will uphold that.
And I don't think it's a stretch at all for insurance companies to raise rates. They'll do that at the merest whiff of a rumor.
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Who really benefits more than the private prison owners who get paid handsomely to house these criminals who get caught with a bad of weed?
legalize it
And whats really different about whats going on right now with drivers on the job? People still drink and still smoke while driving on the job. And for the alcohol industry to even compare being under the influence of marijuana to being under the influence of alcohol behind the wheel is just stupid as shit.
12,800 people dead from drunk driving in 1 year- No one talks about how insurance rates going up.
0 -Deaths from marijuana in what a century? And we're talking about how insurance rates should go up if weeds legalized?
I still believe they do things like this in Chicago and it's called an I-bond. Due to Cook County jail being over crowded all the time.
However, once marijuana is legalized, they will challenge marijuana testing in the workplace because the test is not one which indicates degree of impairment. The BAC DOES indicate degree of impairment. The higher the level, the higher the degree of impairment. The particular level which is the cutoff is not arbitrarily chosen. There is a certain allowed level which is accepted.
The marijuana testing that is done will show positive for a joint smoked last week. They don't have or do testing which can indicate the same way BAC does for alcohol. For that matter, THC levels in the bloodstream don't correlate to the perceived effects. The drug just doesn't work in a way that follows that kind of blood level response curve.
And I didn't have to look very deeply into the argument given in that video at all. They read what the statement from the distributors said, it took about a second and a half to see how the situation will play out, and knowing how the lawyers and courts figure these things, it will play out exactly that way.
I don't doubt that the beer distributors also have a potential financial stake in the game. But it's entirely within their prerogative and rights to fund one side or another of the issue--whichever will suit their business aims.
But I don't think the argument is lame at all, and they won't be the only ones affected by it. Any company which hires professional drivers/pilots/operators will have the same issue to deal with.
It don't take a genius to figure out their hidden agenda. It's all about the money they would lose because a lot of people would stop drinking. I mean cmon,they're worried about their company drivers being a risk and endangerment to the public if their high on marijuana? But yet they don't give 2 shits about the product they push and all the drunk driving deaths caused from it.
Liability insurance and premiums? Get the fuck outta here! Like their product don't have an effect on the tax payers dollar? It's a petty argument just to keep their pockets lined.
The effects of their product are already figured into insurance premiums everyone pays, and they always have been, since alcohol use was legal long before the automobile and insurance for it were invented.
However, for professional drivers, insurance premiums are adjusted if the company has an alcohol and drug testing program in place to reduce or prevent their drivers from operating under the influence.
Four hours prior exposure....hardly precise enough to determine whether the person is under the influence or impaired by the marijuana.
Face it. The beer distributors have a valid reason to be opposed to the initiative. They stand to lose from it. You just support the initiative and wish to see it passed. That doesn't make the beer distributors any less opposed to it, nor their reasons invalid. They certainly could be affected by it. You don't have to care whether they are affected by it or not.
Just because their voting to legalize it doesn't mean that people are gonna be free to drive stoned on the job. It will probably be no different then alcohol as far as on the job. No one is suppose to drink while on the job now right,so it should be no different for marijuana.
And you say 4 hours prior exposure is hardly precise enough to determine whether the person is under the influence? What if a driver takes a breathalyzer test and he blows just under the legal limit for alcohol? Does he get to keep his job because he was legally drunk?
In reality that 4 hour test is good enough. There's a place for work and there's a time for pleasure. If you test positive for weed while on the job you should lose your job regardless. That goes for alcohol and all the other drugs also.
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The problem with the marijuana testing is that it's not quantitative, and it only indicates prior exposure.
You are trying to believe that evidence of any prior exposure to marijuana will continue to suffice for the employee drug testing.
Once marijuana is legalized, there will be challenges to that thinking, and it will get thrown out as a valid workplace test. Then, since there's no quantitative test that can be proven to show a blood level/impairment correlation, there won't be a way to weed out prior exposure but no longer impaired from prior exposure and still impaired.
And the insurance companies' response to that will be to raise rates.
Pot stays in your system a little longer than 72 hours.
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the companies that sell that stuff should stand up now !
Legalize it !
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The way I see it played out is if the alcohol industry don't get insurance companies in bed with them on their beliefs,the insurance companies are not gonna budge because they'd be taking money out of their pockets.
Capitalism at it's finest! Fighting for that all mighty $..
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