2022 KTM 300xc Stock Fork Shim Stack Analysis / discussion

ZachS
Posts
19
Joined
8/30/2021
Location
Madera, CA, USA
Edited Date/Time 4/22/2025 7:30pm

im looking for info on the stock shim stacks from the aer fork on a 2022 300xc tpi specifically. 

trying to replicate an old setup i had and i've looked everywhere but cant find anything detailed. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

1
|
ZachS
Posts
19
Joined
8/30/2021
Location
Madera, CA, USA
3/14/2025 2:41pm
FWYT wrote:

You maybe already saw this then? I know they are discussing the '23 but one of them posted there stock stack to compare.
Maybe it helps?

https://www.thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1446979-shim-stacks-for-2023-x…

Thanks for the help! i had looked through that thread and have some of the info saved. Im not sure if the stacks are the same as the 22 being that they are different generations so im still looking for the actual 22 stacks to compare 

Im sure the info’s out there somewhere but i cant seem to find it yet

1
Nairb#70
Posts
4057
Joined
2/25/2020
Location
Ivoryton, CT, USA
3/14/2025 5:59pm

Try contacting your favorite suspension service.

FWYT
Posts
3558
Joined
5/25/2014
Location
San Diego, CA, USA
3/15/2025 7:15am
FWYT wrote:

You maybe already saw this then? I know they are discussing the '23 but one of them posted there stock stack to compare.
Maybe it helps?

https://www.thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1446979-shim-stacks-for-2023-x…

ZachS wrote:
Thanks for the help! i had looked through that thread and have some of the info saved. Im not sure if the stacks are the same...

Thanks for the help! i had looked through that thread and have some of the info saved. Im not sure if the stacks are the same as the 22 being that they are different generations so im still looking for the actual 22 stacks to compare 

Im sure the info’s out there somewhere but i cant seem to find it yet

Right on. Keep us posted with what you find out and your end results and comparisons. I find that stuff interesting.

1

The Shop

ZachS
Posts
19
Joined
8/30/2021
Location
Madera, CA, USA
4/22/2025 6:09pm
IMG 7424.PNG?VersionId=jaCeCZrZMxHTEr68oyajaGtj
ZachS
Posts
19
Joined
8/30/2021
Location
Madera, CA, USA
4/22/2025 7:29pm

Thank you to those that helped with suggestions! Posted above is the setup sheet i was searching for. 

I contacted a few suspension tuners and got nowhere so i emailed WP directly and they actually were super helpful and sent over exactly what i needed! Surprising for sure, wish i had talked to them sooner 

Id love any observation on what exactly is going on/ is unique about this setup; im just a beginner with suspension theory and i can tell there are some differences in these stacks versus the other stock air fork stacks i have seen but id love an analysis by someone who knows more. 

What i think i am seeing that is unique is the use of 48600382 (spring used for midvalve float) in conjunction with a trampoline valve. In addition most of the compression stack shims are doubled up; i've read a little about this but what is the reasoning here? 

The rebound stack appears to have quite a bit going on as well. bleed? then shortly thereafter a crossover and then an inverted stack at the end. What is that doing practically?  

The reason i searched for this info and am asking for help deciphering its makeup is pretty straightforward. Its the only fork i've had in the last 3 years that has allowed me to reach my peak speed. Ive tried somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 different setups (valving and hardware) across 5ish different tuners and while i got close in feel it was never the same as the single day i spent on this fork in 2022 (important to note i wasn't trying to have them replicate this valving, its only recently i've decided to pursue this setup again after trying what seems like everything else).  I had for some odd reason i cant remember, snagged this fork from my dads 22 300xc and thrown it on the front of my 21 fc450 and had the ride of a lifetime and then took it off and never tried it again; the 300 eventually got sold and with it, the stock fork. i feel like a moron pining after a stock air fork for the last couple years but after finding this setup sheet and putting the valving in my current air fork on the front of my 2019 350sxf, i rode it this last weekend and i can confirm without a shadow of a doubt i've never gone faster. There is a comfort level that nothing else i have tried has been able to give me and i don't know why from a valving perspective. Im a AA level offroad racer; i feel like it shouldn't work for me but it does. 

Some observation about the performance of this fork, keeping in mind that historically my setups have been disliked by other riders who have thrown a leg over my bikes (read: i may be incompetent when it comes to testing) and also that i have only spent a cumulative 4 hours on it and only in the woods. 

It has a peculiar ability to ride high in the stroke/almost topped out without being stiff initially or overly fast in rebound terms. For me this translates to fantastic holdup while maintaining predicatbility. It eats small chop, rocks and roots like they aren't even there with nary a twitch in the front end but when i slam into a water-bar (2 ft tall kicker)  at the top of 4th the bike jumps flat instead of dumping the front like previous setups i have had. it is this duality that has me hooked: holdup without the stiffness that usually accompanies it, quick rebound without feeling unsettled, proper low speed loading of the front end when cornering without feeling soggy or having excess movement elsewhere, bottomless travel without spikes in damping. it is somehow stiff while feeling plush, fast while feeling slow  

It feels like it helps me load the rear end as well, its very easy to hold the front end up slightly off the ground for extended periods of time. I get this gentle push/pressure sensation in my hands when the fork gets into the midstroke, like it wants to become uncompressed and is gently asking to return to full length.  i don't know 

Every other fork i have ridden that feels similarly plush and predictable is too soft on other trail features and every other fork i have had that feels similarly in holdup is too stiff to be predictable and gives up huge amounts of traction to this fork in addition to throwing off bike balance. 

anyways, ive had a lot of time to think about this but my level of understanding is low right now.

2
FWYT
Posts
3558
Joined
5/25/2014
Location
San Diego, CA, USA
4/24/2025 11:18am

Awesome, Zach. Glad you got the info. I am also interested in hearing from others what seems to make this set up work for you. I have only a little knowledge in this department but I love this tech stuff. Keep us posted and good luck at the races.

1
AMetts
Posts
1183
Joined
6/15/2022
Location
Lincolnton, NC, USA
4/24/2025 12:05pm

I've been venturing into some valving myself. I just put a gold valve kit in my Xact forks on my 2021 FX350 and it was a cool learning experience. I have a single side spring conversion in the forks as well and was in between two rates and went with the stiffer of the two compared to what I've been running as I had both springs already. 

Im 30+ B GNCC style riding and racing can be rooty tight single track or really rough 4th gear stuff. 

On the first ride I felt like the dampening was pretty good but I was struggling a bit getting the bike to want to tip in and sneak into those tight inside ruts and the off camber flat corners especially with how dry its been here lately, felt like I didn't have the confidence I normally did before with the old valving and softer spring. The bike felt really good on the faster stuff and super rough downhills I rode so I wanted to see if I could make this higher spring rate work on the slower rougher stuff and tight corners. 

I was also not using the last almost 3" of travel even after some big hits, I took 25ml of oil out of the damper side as racetech recommends 260ml over the 230ml stock. So I rode it again and that gave me access to full travel but still had the same issues as before. 

I just put the softer spring in the front and am going to try that this weekend at a local race and see how that feels, Im hoping I can remedy some of the problems I had with the softer spring and rely more on the compression damping to give me confidence on the bigger hits and hopefully keep the plushness this valving gave me in the slower stuff. 

Post a reply to: 2022 KTM 300xc Stock Fork Shim Stack Analysis / discussion

The Latest