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If you've read the board for any length of time you could recognize that as sarcasm. Especially if the poster that said it has been around awhile.
Case IN point...
Can we see your list of action items?
Without action items this was pointless and therefore brought nothing to the board, and for that you should be clicked?
he could pull the damn plug on the entire interwebz if he wanted.
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If you noticed, pretty much everybody just ignored that post except for GuyB... it was a joke, maybe not very good, but he tried.
Maybe we lighten up a little and talk about moto and joke like motoheads, and stop trying to turn this place into sunday school...
I go to a few other boards that are very civilized but I think that's the way the mods run them plus some are local so you know you may well run in to the guys you're chatting with.
I guess if you're getting tired of dealing with it all you could start clicking people hard 'till the guys that like to start shit realize it isn't going to play here anymore ?
I do think an autoclick of every US v EURO thread would be a start because, without fail they end up with multiple guys throwing around completely pointless, xenophobically fuelled insults.
Every time Lenny would post something stupid (most of his posts) I'd post a picture that said "nixxx please" on it, with a black lady (it even ended with a gga, not a gger). I would chuckle anytime I saw it. It was 100% a joke. I guess the way I finally starting seeing it is, this is a website that is viewed my thousand and thousands of people. Black, white, mexican, everything.... Not everybody has the same sense of humor. I can see both sides of it....
I saw your joke and knew it was a joke, but I also knew you'd be getting clicked too....
And again, there's still the fact that people being legitimately racist don't get banned for quite some time, yet a single joke gets clicked immediately...
I'm a fan of sarcasm. In fact, I just bought my son a t-shirt that reads, National Sarcasm Society. Like we need your help.
The problem with sarcasm is that it's awfully hard to tell if someone's being sarcastic or not in a forum post. And my tolerance for racial stuff has always been really low anyway. That just generally makes for a bad starting point, and it goes downhill from there. And that thread may have not been the best place for it anyway.
If you could skip that topic in the future, I'd appreciate it.
Not liking someone based on race is essentially no different than not liking Honda's or some other brand. If people get their delicate little feelings hurt maybe they don't have thick enough skin for a message board?
I am also guessing if a truly racist person were to post here they would receive a fairly chilly reception and eventually lose interest! Less policing is the answer. Let natural attrition work it's magic!
And Nik...you can see why I said this probably wasn't the best place for it.
We will never all agree with every decision made in board set up, moderation and so on. Most will agree that it takes a big effort to keep a moto board going long term, have intersting content, as well as places for us to give opinions and bitch a little if we feel the need.
When people step outside the guidelines of the board, there needs to be accountability. We have that, and although we might not all be in agreement, it's a must have in places like this.
There's a lot of good coming from this thread. Hell, even YB came around and gave some valuable insight. Wish we would see him around more often..
Steve, keep up the good work and all us monkeys will try to stay within the boundries in place..
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It's your board boss! What you say goes and most understand that.
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1. Non-riders that don't attend pro races but bitch about everything.
2. Newbies that start tons of posts.
3. People that spell at a fourth grade level.
4. People that care too much about 2stroke vs. 4-stroke.
4. People that make lists of their complaints.
I understand users make new email addy's to sign up here but banning hotmail? I use my hotmail for this account and it would suck if I couldn't sign up due to that. Hotmail is one of the most popular email accounts on the net.....while you're at it why not ban yahoo too?
I really don't think baning certain email accounts like the ones mentioned above is the answer people will just find other wayys to sign up and if you keep banning email sites nobody will be able to sign up....the IP address is a good idea though, it may not be 100% effective but the effort it would take to get around it if you're not 100% computer tech savvy would be too much work for an overwhelming majority of users trying to sign up over and over to start trouble.
What also evolves is the mindset of the board owner, Steve. "In the olden days" when you took a pretty much hands off approach - indeed reveled in how that differentiated the Drive from everything else, I don't think any real damage was done to anyone and most people had a lot of fun. Some of the stuff that you'd insta-click now provided some of the most intriguing reasons to check in. It was edgy and different. The tightening of the reins, in and of itself, incites rebellion. Especially among MX'ers, who aren't known for their conformity traits. It becomes a challenge to see what you can get away with behind the teacher's back, or, to their face, so to speak. And, just like in school, it also invites "tattle tales" to rattle your cage every time someone pulls on their pigtails.
I think all of that impacts and distorts your own perception as "chief" of what's going on and how "important" it is. I think it is dangerously easy to fall into the trap of an idea that every member sees every little thing that gets posted on the board and to ascribe your own personal reactions to this or that little tidbit onto everyone as if every single member and advertiser saw it. But that's a distorted viewpoint. Just like in a big bar with a lot of people in it, most do not pay attention to every sentence uttered in the conversations at every single table. If they did, something is bound to piss everyone off before long.
Case in point, as long as I've been around here as a daily visitor, I *STILL* have yet to see any of the posts that apparently were so egregious to get Lenny clicked (again and again and again). At the same time I have seen many by others with lesser pedigree, still posting their BS away, completely off the hook. I guess once the teacher labels someone a "troublemaker", they can never escape it. It does seem out of balance to me, though. I *HAVE* seen plenty of good stuff posted by the BL and it's clear he's a motohead to the core. On our board, that was the one qualification that forgave most sins. We focused on how much we had in common, not where we were different. And I have seen BL's bait. But IMO those little dramas really never amount to much and add an interest angle that is otherwise missing to the board. Same thing with the Bobster. And to me that's the element of interest that goes missing when the thought police get overactive that leads people to regard a place "bland and boring". So what if someone calls someone else's sister fat and ugly deep in a false thread about Euros being faster than Americans? BFD. No one that cares about the topic will read the side drama, or, if they do, they will be amused by it. The Shyla's and the PMJs and the RC16s and the seatbounces and Danny Dolans are the stuff of legend. People remember those (in a good way) for a long time. No one remembers STFU Noob.
My personal philosophy? You don't like what someone has to say? Ignore em. Change channels. Hit mute. Poke a needle in a voodoo doll. LYAO. It's all so very meaningless. But can be, and should be, entertaining.
Just my 2c.
My reasons are that this board has gotten to be known by some as one that is just full of people who are chomping at the bit just to say "STFU" or "stfu noob" etc, and then there are the kids (and some older loosers) that just find it cool to jump on that bandwagon and flame on any person at the slightest chance they get.....
for example, someone might even post something good, and if a more popular poster insults that post, there are some idiots that would just jump in with more insults just because they think they will be more accepted by agreeing with the popular poster and before you know it, a potentially very good thread has been demoted to absolutely nothing but insults...
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