My thoughts on the USGP

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Edited Date/Time 1/18/2012 10:16am
I am going to be sitting in my boat doing 12oz left handed curls, rehabing an injured left elbow. I hope to hear all the details from you rabid MX fans on Monday.

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5/28/2010 9:41am
Regis wrote:
I am going to be sitting in my boat doing 12oz left handed curls, rehabing an injured left elbow. I hope to hear all the details...
I am going to be sitting in my boat doing 12oz left handed curls, rehabing an injured left elbow. I hope to hear all the details from you rabid MX fans on Monday.

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Well that makes two of us who are not "core."
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I am going on a MTB trip with my MX buds, then will enjoy some cold beers by the car and see if my Sprint aircard will work, try to watch and then on for more MTB riding.

I will though watch the race later. Go Gautier, Go Philly!!
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5/28/2010 9:44am Edited Date/Time 5/28/2010 9:45am
Aww how sweet!! Maybe you 2 can right hand each other!!

Edit- Not you Shenzi!!
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I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money to go.

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5/28/2010 9:55am
Titan1 wrote:
I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money...
I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money to go.
Family and I are going to the desert with some friends who usually go to the Glen Helen National.

One year ago this weekend I was laying in ICU at Loma Linda from a quad race at Glen Helen. Looking forward to just hanging by a fire a night with some beers and tacos...

I would find a way to sneak down the hill and check the race out, but is it really worth the price??
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5/28/2010 9:59am
Trip wrote:
Family and I are going to the desert with some friends who usually go to the Glen Helen National. One year ago this weekend I was...
Family and I are going to the desert with some friends who usually go to the Glen Helen National.

One year ago this weekend I was laying in ICU at Loma Linda from a quad race at Glen Helen. Looking forward to just hanging by a fire a night with some beers and tacos...

I would find a way to sneak down the hill and check the race out, but is it really worth the price??
If I lived in So Cal, I say it would be worth it. If anything to see the difference between the GP riders attack on GH vs. The US riders way from years past.
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Trip wrote:
Family and I are going to the desert with some friends who usually go to the Glen Helen National. One year ago this weekend I was...
Family and I are going to the desert with some friends who usually go to the Glen Helen National.

One year ago this weekend I was laying in ICU at Loma Linda from a quad race at Glen Helen. Looking forward to just hanging by a fire a night with some beers and tacos...

I would find a way to sneak down the hill and check the race out, but is it really worth the price??
Racer111 wrote:
If I lived in So Cal, I say it would be worth it. If anything to see the difference between the GP riders attack on GH...
If I lived in So Cal, I say it would be worth it. If anything to see the difference between the GP riders attack on GH vs. The US riders way from years past.
That is a good way to look at it.. I may sneak away on Sunday to see whats up.. I am takingthe schedule and camera with me, so will see...
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I am going to ride my dirt bike. I am not a fan.
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5/28/2010 10:16am
Titan1 wrote:
I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money...
I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money to go.
so do you go to supercross? How is 50 bucks to much? There will 4x the amount of qualitiy moto at Glen Helen then there ever is at a stupid cross.........Alessi is top talent....He proved that by winning a moto last weekend....So our best is going to stack up against their best.... Their guys have proved that they can hang with all of ours short of Stewart...So I don't see the reason not to go.....I would like to check out their 250 guys because they will be here next year........
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5/28/2010 11:35am
Titan1 wrote:
I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money...
I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money to go.
mr50racer wrote:
so do you go to supercross? How is 50 bucks to much? There will 4x the amount of qualitiy moto at Glen Helen then there ever...
so do you go to supercross? How is 50 bucks to much? There will 4x the amount of qualitiy moto at Glen Helen then there ever is at a stupid cross.........Alessi is top talent....He proved that by winning a moto last weekend....So our best is going to stack up against their best.... Their guys have proved that they can hang with all of ours short of Stewart...So I don't see the reason not to go.....I would like to check out their 250 guys because they will be here next year........
I paid $10 for my supercross tickets in SLC (plus like $3 for a monster to get in the pits), and I refuse to pay any more than that....If I could get into the GP for $10-$15 I'd go...but I'm not spending $50, though. Sorry.

MXdN....worth it.
National...worth it.

Supercross....not worth it.
GP.....not worth it.

I'm sorry, but I bet attendence will end up killing the US GP, and they don't renew/extend their contract after the 1st 5 years. Then Glen Helen will come crawling back to MX Sports begging for a national again.

I'd expect this year to have the highest attendence (given that it's the first in 11 years)....and it'll be all down hill from there (unless they can somehow get more top AMA riders)....So if this year is poorly attendend....I'd predict there will be four more GP's and then not another for a long long time.
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5/28/2010 11:49am
To think that I as a university student scraped together enough money for a year to afford going to the MXDN´s at Matterly Basin, and also this year in Denver, and Titan, the cheap bastard, won´t even pay $50 to see a much anticipated race like the USGP in his own back yard.
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5/28/2010 11:57am
Sunhouse wrote:
To think that I as a university student scraped together enough money for a year to afford going to the MXDN´s at Matterly Basin, and also...
To think that I as a university student scraped together enough money for a year to afford going to the MXDN´s at Matterly Basin, and also this year in Denver, and Titan, the cheap bastard, won´t even pay $50 to see a much anticipated race like the USGP in his own back yard.
Exactly! Titan must be sitting home, protecting that first nickel he ever earned and eating Top Ramen...
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5/28/2010 12:00pm
Can't even comprehend the thought of being a REAL motocross fan within a five hour drive and NOT going.

It just doesn't make any sense.

If there is logic here, someone point it out to me.
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5/28/2010 12:00pm
Sunhouse wrote:
To think that I as a university student scraped together enough money for a year to afford going to the MXDN´s at Matterly Basin, and also...
To think that I as a university student scraped together enough money for a year to afford going to the MXDN´s at Matterly Basin, and also this year in Denver, and Titan, the cheap bastard, won´t even pay $50 to see a much anticipated race like the USGP in his own back yard.
I don't think a lot of you Euros understand the travel distances we have here in the states, this is a BIG country. Gas, lodging, tickets, etc. the tickets are probably the cheapest part of what the whole trip would cost from Utah to SoCal. Plus I'm sure Titan isn't a single guy, so multiply the cost of a family and you'll get the picture. It would be worth it to see if EVERY US based team competed, but they aren't. Hopefully next year more teams will do it but until then I also agree that the event won't fulfill the value vs. cost equation.
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5/28/2010 12:02pm
Titan1 wrote:
I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money...
I'm not gonna lie...I'm extremely excited for this race. It's a pretty big deal! But even if I lived in SoCal, I wouldn't spend the money to go.
mr50racer wrote:
so do you go to supercross? How is 50 bucks to much? There will 4x the amount of qualitiy moto at Glen Helen then there ever...
so do you go to supercross? How is 50 bucks to much? There will 4x the amount of qualitiy moto at Glen Helen then there ever is at a stupid cross.........Alessi is top talent....He proved that by winning a moto last weekend....So our best is going to stack up against their best.... Their guys have proved that they can hang with all of ours short of Stewart...So I don't see the reason not to go.....I would like to check out their 250 guys because they will be here next year........
Titan1 wrote:
I paid $10 for my supercross tickets in SLC (plus like $3 for a monster to get in the pits), and I refuse to pay any...
I paid $10 for my supercross tickets in SLC (plus like $3 for a monster to get in the pits), and I refuse to pay any more than that....If I could get into the GP for $10-$15 I'd go...but I'm not spending $50, though. Sorry.

MXdN....worth it.
National...worth it.

Supercross....not worth it.
GP.....not worth it.

I'm sorry, but I bet attendence will end up killing the US GP, and they don't renew/extend their contract after the 1st 5 years. Then Glen Helen will come crawling back to MX Sports begging for a national again.

I'd expect this year to have the highest attendence (given that it's the first in 11 years)....and it'll be all down hill from there (unless they can somehow get more top AMA riders)....So if this year is poorly attendend....I'd predict there will be four more GP's and then not another for a long long time.
Well in So cal supercross tickets are way more than 10 bucks..........This will be just as good as a national.......3 of their guys that run in the top 15 came over here in the last 3 years and ran inside our top 7.......So to say their guys are slow or this won't be as good as a national is wrong in my opinion....I think their guys will put in a bit more effort to beat our top guys and so too will ours...It should be good. They have 3 250 guys that will probably beat all of ours consistently........
5/28/2010 12:05pm
im honestly only excited to go because i went to the last USGP @ GH in the 90's when i was a kid and i remember how cool it was to watch all the different riders styles. i also remember the US guys killing the euros.... also i high memorie was in the little canyon part their was this triple step-up that wasnt supposed to be a triple that the Americans started doing in practice and then they tore the jump down because of FIM rules... i still think its cause the euros couldnt jump it...and i believe their were only like 4 or 5 americans jumping it.

anyways ill b there..... stop by the Langston Motorsports booth and say HI =)
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5/28/2010 12:23pm
Sunhouse wrote:
To think that I as a university student scraped together enough money for a year to afford going to the MXDN´s at Matterly Basin, and also...
To think that I as a university student scraped together enough money for a year to afford going to the MXDN´s at Matterly Basin, and also this year in Denver, and Titan, the cheap bastard, won´t even pay $50 to see a much anticipated race like the USGP in his own back yard.
NV825 wrote:
I don't think a lot of you Euros understand the travel distances we have here in the states, this is a BIG country. Gas, lodging, tickets...
I don't think a lot of you Euros understand the travel distances we have here in the states, this is a BIG country. Gas, lodging, tickets, etc. the tickets are probably the cheapest part of what the whole trip would cost from Utah to SoCal. Plus I'm sure Titan isn't a single guy, so multiply the cost of a family and you'll get the picture. It would be worth it to see if EVERY US based team competed, but they aren't. Hopefully next year more teams will do it but until then I also agree that the event won't fulfill the value vs. cost equation.
Why would every US based team have to go? I don´´t understand the logic. I can understand that you´d like to see some more Americans entering but this turns into an evil circle. The riders won´t show up because the fans apparently won´t pay up. And the fans won´t pay up because their riders (that they see every weekend on TV and at race) won´t race. There is no logic to this.

I´ll let you in on a little secret. If I had to go from Utah to Socal, I´d be at almost all the races in Socal! I earn little money as the master degree at uni takes most of my time and what small amounts of money I can save up. I go to all the Swedish GP´s, went to the MXDN´s in 2006, and I´m going from Scandinavia to bloody Denver to watch a race were NO ONE from my country will particiipate. We don´t even have a team! Mongolia and Guatemala show up with teams, and stupid Norway - the wealthiest nation in the world - can´t even aford to send a team! Go figure! Regardless, I´m spending all my hard earned cash (and 10 vital days of studying) to go to a far off city on the other side of the world, to watch a race where no one from my home country bothers to show up. Hell, I see every rider out on the track at the MXDN´s except for 3, every first weekend in July every year anyway. Why would I want to f@ck up my economy and future to watch riders I can watch ride at the Swedish GP only two hours away from home?
Because money isn´t everything! If you´re a real fan - these things matter. Just being there, soaking up the atmosphere and witnessing a different event with different riders and tracks. Now you even get it in your own back yard, and you won´t go because it´ll cost you a case of beer. I´m sorry, but if this is the result of motocross growing and becoming mainstream we´ve seriously fucked our sport up. We´ve sold our sport to the devil.
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5/28/2010 12:27pm
RACEGUY wrote:
Can't even comprehend the thought of being a REAL motocross fan within a five hour drive and NOT going. It just doesn't make any sense. If...
Can't even comprehend the thought of being a REAL motocross fan within a five hour drive and NOT going.

It just doesn't make any sense.

If there is logic here, someone point it out to me.
Here is my logic... Wife went camping with friends on Valentines weekend with the kids. My bike didn't work and I was being a little bitch and didn't want to go without my bike... Once Glen Helen National got cancelled plans were made to hit the desert for that weekend.

I'm at the baseball field three nights a week, and all day Saturday. My softball games on Wednesday nights.. Sons travel ball team works out on Sundays.. Plus the softball tourneys I get roped into. Add that to my job, and there just hasn't been alot of family time.

Not willing to fight for this one...Wife knows I want to go, and she may let me escape the desert for a day.. Yeah, Im whipped like cream.
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5/28/2010 1:07pm
Totally understand, Trip.

It's the guys who dismiss this thing out-of-hand like it's some other sport altogether.

The big name "Americans" won't be there, so it's not worth it?? WTF is that??

I've seen hall-of-fame racing in the pee-wee classes.

Chances are, this will be a cut-throat take-no-prisoners affair for the GP gang. They want to make an impression on the world's premier MX market.

This will be bench-racing fodder for years to come.

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