#17: MXGP of Switzerland - August 24-25

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8/25/2024 8:56am Edited Date/Time 8/25/2024 8:57am
Dirt_Dawg wrote:

Golden boy prado rattled, gajser and herlings another level.  Welcome back maxime if you can stay healthy next year you will be fighting for a chip.

Bullshit, Prado is still the fastest guy overall this year (except for the sand obviously). But looking back absolutely sucking in the mud at Portugal (he probably doesn't know what he was doing there) and also having a DNF absolutely fucks his points. Still by far the most overalls and laps led this year. You just can't mistakes vs Gajser because he will always be on the podium.

Guess you're always just as good as your last race in MX.

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8/25/2024 8:59am Edited Date/Time 8/25/2024 9:02am

It's kinda ironic to be honest, Prado won the title with 2 overalls last year and might lose it this year with 8 overalls and by far the most moto wins.

Well.. from 9 to 18 points this weekend, 3 races to go. Let's go!

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Dirt_Dawg wrote:

Golden boy prado rattled, gajser and herlings another level.  Welcome back maxime if you can stay healthy next year you will be fighting for a chip.

Mavetism wrote:
Bullshit, Prado is still the fastest guy overall this year (except for the sand obviously). But looking back absolutely sucking in the mud at Portugal (he...

Bullshit, Prado is still the fastest guy overall this year (except for the sand obviously). But looking back absolutely sucking in the mud at Portugal (he probably doesn't know what he was doing there) and also having a DNF absolutely fucks his points. Still by far the most overalls and laps led this year. You just can't mistakes vs Gajser because he will always be on the podium.

Guess you're always just as good as your last race in MX.

Yes except sand, but also mud.

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8/25/2024 10:00am

What a ride by Tim. Clutch. 

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Dirt_Dawg wrote:

Golden boy prado rattled, gajser and herlings another level.  Welcome back maxime if you can stay healthy next year you will be fighting for a chip.

Mavetism wrote:
Bullshit, Prado is still the fastest guy overall this year (except for the sand obviously). But looking back absolutely sucking in the mud at Portugal (he...

Bullshit, Prado is still the fastest guy overall this year (except for the sand obviously). But looking back absolutely sucking in the mud at Portugal (he probably doesn't know what he was doing there) and also having a DNF absolutely fucks his points. Still by far the most overalls and laps led this year. You just can't mistakes vs Gajser because he will always be on the podium.

Guess you're always just as good as your last race in MX.

Elliot wrote:

Yes except sand, but also mud.

Yeah gotta be good in any condition if you want to win the title, no doubt. Just saying, he is probably a better rider than last year but completely fucked his points in some races. It is how it is.

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8/25/2024 1:23pm

Fastest laps of sunday races 

EMX125 race 2 

2.03.647 = Nicolo Alvisi 
2.10.929 = Maximilian Ernecker 
2.11.075 = Francesco Bellei
2.14.018 = Gyan Doensen 
2.15.157 = Simone Mancini 
2.15.167 = Noel Zanocz 
2.16.776 = Douwe Van Mechgelen 
2.20.345 = Niccolo Mannini
2.23.073 = Alessandro Gaspari
2.23.773 = Salvador Perez 

EMX250 race 2 

2.02.746 = Mathis Valin 
2.02.911 = Valerio Lata
2.08.453 = Nico Greutmann 
2.08.991 = Maximilian Werner 
2.11.418 = Ivano Van Erp 
2.11.899 = Benjamin Garib 
2.12.075 = Cas Valk
2.13.059 = Elias Escandell 
2.15.939 = Nicolai Skovbjerg 
2.17.468 = Samuel Oechslin 

MX2 race 1 

1.53.649 = Mikkel Haarup 
1.54.017 = Liam Everts 
1.55.171 = Karlis Reisulis 
1.55.231 = Lucas Coenen 
1.55.561 = Ferruccio Zanchi 
1.55.587 = Kay De Wolf 
1.55.784 = Simon Laengenfelder 
1.55.895 = Thibault Benistant 
1.56.242 = Rick Elzinga 
1.57.371 = Quentin-Marc Prugnieres 

MXGP race 1 

1.50.947 = Tim Gajser 
1.51.766 = Jeffrey Herlings 
1.51.846 = Jeremy Seewer
1.52.182 = Maxime Renaux 
1.52.281 = Romain Febvre 
1.52.417 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
1.53.358 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
1.54.091 = Valentin Guillod 
1.54.327 = Kevin Horgmo 
1.55.183 = Alberto Forato 

MX2 race 2 

1.46.763 = Simon Laengenfelder 
1.46.832 = Karlis Reisulis 
1.47.116 = Liam Everts 
1.47.219 = Lucas Coenen
1.47.522 = Rick Elzinga 
1.47.605 = Mikkel Haarup 
1.48.005 = Ferruccio Zanchi 
1.48.197 = Kay De Wolf 
1.48.357 = Andrea Adamo 
1.48.907 = Thibault Benistant 

MXGP race 2 

1.45.328 = Jeffrey Herlings 
1.46.207 = Tim Gajser 
1.46.342 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
1.46.353 = Romain Febvre 
1.46.530 = Maxime Renaux 
1.46.890 = Jeremy Seewer 
1.47.515 = Alberto Forato 
1.48.130 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
1.48.670 = Arnaud Tonus 
1.48.832 = Isak Gifting

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8/25/2024 2:37pm

Horrible track and the rain didn’t help. 
There are so many great MX tracks around the world and yet they ( MXGP) is going to have a race on something like that. 

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8/25/2024 10:42pm

MX2 stats  

GP wins  

7 = Kay De Wolf 
6 = Lucas Coenen 
2 = Liam Everts 
2 = Sacha Coenen  

GP podiums  

10 = Lucas Coenen 
10 = Kay De Wolf 
9 = Simon Laengenfelder 
6 = Andrea Adamo 
5 = Liam Everts 
2 = Thibault Benistant 
2 = Sacha Coenen 
2 = Mikkel Haarup 
2 = Rick Elzinga
1 = Camden Mc Lellan 
1 = Valerio Lata  

Race wins  

13 = Lucas Coenen 
10 = Kay De Wolf 
4 = Simon Laengenfelder 
3 = Liam Everts 
2 = Andrea Adamo
2 = Sacha Coenen  

Race top 3  

25 = Kay De Wolf 
20 = Lucas Coenen 
17 = Simon Laengenfelder 
11 = Liam Everts 
9 = Andrea Adamo 
5 = Mikkel Haarup
3 = Sacha Coenen 
3 = Camden Mc Lellan 
3 = Thibault Benistant 
2 = Rick Elzinga 
1 = Andrea Bonacorsi 
1 = Valerio Lata 
1 = Karlis Reisulis 

Qualifying race wins  

6 = Kay De Wolf
6 = Lucas Coenen 
2 = Liam Everts 
1 = Andrea Adamo 
1 = Thibault Benistant  

Qualifying race top 3  

12 = Kay De Wolf 
11 = Lucas Coenen 
8 = Simon Laengenfelder 
7 = Liam Everts 
3 = Andrea Adamo
2 = Rick Elzinga 
2 = Thibault Benistant 
2 = Sacha Coenen 
1 = Hakon Osterhagen 
1 = Marc-Antoine Rossi 
1 = Ferruccio Zanchi 
1 = Mikkel Haarup 

Laps led  

178 = Lucas Coenen 
142 = Kay De Wolf 
76 = Sacha Coenen 
66 = Simon Laengenfelder 
55 = Liam Everts 
31 = Andrea Adamo 
12 = Karlis Reisulis 
11 = Marc-Antoine Rossi 
9 = Thibault Benistant 
4 = Mikkel Haarup
2 = Rick Elzinga  

Fastest lap of the race  

14 = Lucas Coenen 
5 = Simon Laengenfelder 
4 = Sacha Coenen 
4 = Kay De Wolf 
3 = Andrea Adamo 
2 = Liam Everts 
1 = Marc-Antoine Rossi 
1 = Mikkel Haarup 

Fastest lap in practice  

7 = Kay De Wolf 
5 = Lucas Coenen 
1 = Thibault Benistant 
1 = Liam Everts 
1 = Simon Laengenfelder 
1 = Ferruccio Zanchi 
1 = Sacha Coenen

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8/25/2024 10:44pm

MXGP Stats  

GP wins  

8 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
4 = Jeffrey Herlings 
4 = Tim Gajser 
1 = Pauls Jonass  

GP podiums  

14 = Tim Gajser 
13 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
13 = Jeffrey Herlings 
7 = Romain Febvre 
2 = Calvin Vlaanderen 
1 = Pauls Jonass 
1 = Jeremy Seewer  

Race wins  

14 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
12 = Jeffrey Herlings 
7 = Tim Gajser 
1 = Romain Febvre  

Race top 3  

27 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
25 = Tim Gajser 
24 = Jeffrey Herlings 
10 = Romain Febvre 
6 = Calvin Vlaanderen 
4 = Pauls Jonass 
3 = Jeremy Seewer 
1 = Cornelius Toendel 
1 = Glenn Coldenhoff 

Qualifying race wins  

7 = Tim Gajser 
5 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2 = Romain Febvre 
2 = Jeffrey Herlings 
1 = Glenn Coldenhoff 

Qualifying race top 3  

16 = Tim Gajser 
11 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
8 = Romain Febvre 
8 = Jeffrey Herlings 
3 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
1 = Pauls Jonass
1 = Maxime Renaux
1 = Jeremy Seewer
1 = Brian Bogers 
1 = Calvin Vlaanderen  

Laps led  

296 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
129 = Tim Gajser 
124 = Jeffrey Herlings 
28 = Romain Febvre 
7 = Jeremy Seewer 
6 = Maxime Renaux 
3 = Isak Gifting 
2 = Glenn Coldenhoff 

Fastest lap of the race  

20 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
9 = Jeffrey Herlings 
4 = Tim Gajser 
1 = Romain Febvre  

Fastest lap in practice  

6 = Jeffrey Herlings 
6 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
3 = Tim Gajser 
1 = Romain Febvre 
1 = Jeremy Seewer 

 

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8/25/2024 11:07pm

Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about it. And he did.

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Motofinne wrote:
Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about...

Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about it. And he did.

Correct! He was a bit 'lucky' that Herlings had those bad starts, but Herlings can only blame himself for that. He had those starts all year. 

Some strong rides by Reneaux, Febvre and Forato. I expected a bit more from Seewer this weekend to be honest. He is not really going well with the Kawasaki, but still a strong 200th Grand Prix for him. Unbelievable achievement.

De Wolf did a good job, I thought L Coenen had the winning hand after his impressive qualifying race win

 

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8/26/2024 3:40am

I think the only way Herlings will win this title is if Gajser & Prado come together & something stupid happens like their bikes get locked together & they DNF. 

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8/26/2024 3:42am
Motofinne wrote:
Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about...

Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about it. And he did.

Cortami79 wrote:
Correct! He was a bit 'lucky' that Herlings had those bad starts, but Herlings can only blame himself for that. He had those starts all year. Some...

Correct! He was a bit 'lucky' that Herlings had those bad starts, but Herlings can only blame himself for that. He had those starts all year. 

Some strong rides by Reneaux, Febvre and Forato. I expected a bit more from Seewer this weekend to be honest. He is not really going well with the Kawasaki, but still a strong 200th Grand Prix for him. Unbelievable achievement.

De Wolf did a good job, I thought L Coenen had the winning hand after his impressive qualifying race win

 

Not just 200th.. 200th consecutive! haha That is madness in our sport!!

For whatever reason I was a bit 'meh' on this season but these last 3 or 4 GPs (maybe even 5 but I can't really remember haha) have been so sick!  

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8/26/2024 3:57am Edited Date/Time 8/26/2024 3:58am
Motofinne wrote:
Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about...

Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about it. And he did.

Cortami79 wrote:
Correct! He was a bit 'lucky' that Herlings had those bad starts, but Herlings can only blame himself for that. He had those starts all year. Some...

Correct! He was a bit 'lucky' that Herlings had those bad starts, but Herlings can only blame himself for that. He had those starts all year. 

Some strong rides by Reneaux, Febvre and Forato. I expected a bit more from Seewer this weekend to be honest. He is not really going well with the Kawasaki, but still a strong 200th Grand Prix for him. Unbelievable achievement.

De Wolf did a good job, I thought L Coenen had the winning hand after his impressive qualifying race win

 

At one point of the second moto Herlings was just behind Gajser, when was Prado leading, Renaux 2 Febvre 3 Gajser 4 and Herlings 5

Gajser was just the fastest this weekend. Last weekend was Herlings. It is what it is. I really like both, but Gajser is always underrated by people and I don't understand why

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linhai wrote:
At one point of the second moto Herlings was just behind Gajser, when was Prado leading, Renaux 2 Febvre 3 Gajser 4 and Herlings 5Gajser was...

At one point of the second moto Herlings was just behind Gajser, when was Prado leading, Renaux 2 Febvre 3 Gajser 4 and Herlings 5

Gajser was just the fastest this weekend. Last weekend was Herlings. It is what it is. I really like both, but Gajser is always underrated by people and I don't understand why

Yes, Gajser was clearly the best this weekend. A championship worthy ride yesterday

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8/26/2024 4:32am
Motofinne wrote:
Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about...

Im impressed by Gajser. He had lost the momentum to Prado and Herlings the last handful of races and really, really needed to do something about it. And he did.

100%.
With a 20 point lead he would most likely not gone 1-1. But he knew he can't just rely on his points lead anymore and went out and crushed it.

Hoping Prado can close it back down to less than 10 points and we have a showdown in Spain. Reneaux can easily become a spoiler here. He was surprisingly fast for his first race back

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8/26/2024 5:38am
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100%.With a 20 point lead he would most likely not gone 1-1. But he knew he can't just rely on his points lead anymore and went...

100%.
With a 20 point lead he would most likely not gone 1-1. But he knew he can't just rely on his points lead anymore and went out and crushed it.

Hoping Prado can close it back down to less than 10 points and we have a showdown in Spain. Reneaux can easily become a spoiler here. He was surprisingly fast for his first race back

Mentally, Renaux is for real.

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8/27/2024 2:50am

Any news on Geerts? He did not finish quali race. He have difficult return to racing 

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David934 wrote:

Any news on Geerts? He did not finish quali race. He have difficult return to racing 

He will probably retire for the rest of the season.

Bad luck keeps following me. I couldn't go anywhere when that rider fell right in front of me, crashed straight into him and got my bike on top of me. Result: a lot of scrapes and burns. Still, those injuries weren't the reason for my forfeit. I could have ridden, but mentally I'm a bit down after all those setbacks. That serious elbow injury, the operations, the difficult rehabilitation... And now this again. This is just too much for me. I have to empty my head first. There's a big chance that I won't ride a GP anymore this year.

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8/27/2024 8:08am

The top speed on the one straight was something else. Those 450's must have been running 60 mph.

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David934 wrote:

Any news on Geerts? He did not finish quali race. He have difficult return to racing 

DeStouwer wrote:
He will probably retire for the rest of the season.Bad luck keeps following me. I couldn't go anywhere when that rider fell right in front...

He will probably retire for the rest of the season.

Bad luck keeps following me. I couldn't go anywhere when that rider fell right in front of me, crashed straight into him and got my bike on top of me. Result: a lot of scrapes and burns. Still, those injuries weren't the reason for my forfeit. I could have ridden, but mentally I'm a bit down after all those setbacks. That serious elbow injury, the operations, the difficult rehabilitation... And now this again. This is just too much for me. I have to empty my head first. There's a big chance that I won't ride a GP anymore this year.

Thanks DeStouwer. I feel for Jago. Factory bike, champion speed, maybe 450 Is too much for him.

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