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What kind of minivan are you getting, and how many miles are on it?
Also go to a company called kelly blue book . and it will give you a rough estimate of the vehicles value, and whether or not your getting a good deal, or getting ripped.
www.carfax.com and www.kbb.com
kbb is kelly blue book, and it gives values of used and newer cars and all vehicles, even motorcycles
We bought a used Accord that had a detailed and clean Carfax report. Day after picking it up, I backed into a car in a parking lot and cracked the paint on the rear bumper cover.
I took the car to a local repair shop to get an estimate and the guy looked at the bumper cover and said the cover had been damaged previosly and repainted. This did not show up on the Carfax report.
Also had a Honda Ridgeline that a minivan rearended at 2-3 mph, hard enough to put the Ridgeline's hitch through the minivan's grill and scrape up the Ridgeline's rear bumper cover. My wife and the other driver called the police and a report was filed. Nothing went through insurance and when I traded the Ridgeline in last year, the Carfax report the dealer had for the Ridgeline did not show any accident reports.
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Here's some tips for buying used:
1) How many owners has the vehicle had? One is preferable.
2) Does the vehicle have a maintenance log? Meaning, did the owner track the maintenance and record it?
3) Carfax is ok for negative info, but you can't trust it.
4) KBB numbers are made up. They take the cars starting value and depreciate it. They do not collect actual sales data.
5) The black book is published for regions: http://www.blackbookusa.com/ It has actual pricing.
6) Get lucky.
Edit: the blackbook site is for businesses only. Not sure how you should go about figuring a fair price for a used car.
Back in 1999 I got a 63 day old 2700 mile Toyota Landcruiser from a friend of mine. His wife decided she didn't like it and was trading it in on a Mercedes sedan and was about to take a beating. I got it on a paper trade at the dealer for almost $16,000.00 less than they paid for it two months earlier. Less than a year ago I picked up a fully loaded 2005 Tahoe with 32,000 miles. Elderly couple had traded it in. Snagged it for just under $18000.00. Absolutely perfect condition, loaded to the hilt. Sweet deal considering a new base model stripper was twice as much.
I'm looking for a 7 passenger minivan because we will have a lot of people over visiting. I will put a hitch on the sucker and they buy one of these "mx haulers"
I'm looking for a Honda Odyssey, Mazda MPV, Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caraven etc. For my price-range less than 5 k I obliged to cars between 100.000-2000 miles.
If I wouldn't had to have one of these 7 passenger, and gas was not an option (E-150, or Express) and my wife hates these big vans and don't want to drive it I would go for a F-150, or a Tacoma etc. But again, I need to transport a lot of people...
http://capecod.craigslist.org/ctd/1711495480.html
I have not looked into the hitch bike carrier but I believe they might be too much for the hitch on those vehicles. Usually, the tongue weight (vertical load on the hitch ball) is only 10% of the towing capacity of the hitch. I.E., if the vehicle hitch is good for a 3000 lb. tow load, the maximum tongue weight is only 300 lbs. I think those minivans have max towing of around 2000 - 2500 lbs. (200-250 lb. tongue weight)?
Source: Me-dealer for 15 years
I will not go with many people and bike. I either use the van for transporting me and my bike or me and family and friends...
Just saying of course...
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I've posted this for you before, Doc (Sweden, not Farva)... but here's my CR-V (purchased used) holding my CR250 (purchased used) with the Ultiimate MX Hauler (purchased used).
It's just within the Hitch manufacturers recommended tongue weight, but waaaayyyy over Honda's recommendation. I haven't had a problem. The steering's a bit light with that much weight on the back, but nothing major. My only gripe is how far away from the vehicle the UMXH carries the bike. If I were you, I'd go with an aluminum tray-style carrier. I'll sell you mine (used, cheap), if you're dead-set on an Ultimate MX Hauler.
This is what I's get, if I had it to do over again:
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It carries the bike a good 6 inches closer to the vehicle and it's much lighter.
You know where you can buy one of these alu-things?
http://www.hitchcorner.com/dps-accs.htm
The hitch itself that the carrier plugs in into is unique, as it's what they call their "Dual Port System." The load is dispersed between the two ports. It's actually a really good system and worked great when I used it. Has a built in ramp that unscrews and connects to the end of it to make it super easy to load. Has built-in spots for tie-downs on the front and back. Also has a regular hitch built into it. I still have the system and the hitch itself in the back of my garage. Have no idea if the hitch would fit your van, but could look into it if it were something you'd be interested in.
if it drives straight and doesnt over heat, buy it!
I ordered a hitch and one of these from Ebay ($ 100 shipping included). I'm so damn happy. Now I just have to buy a bike, gear etc!
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