Is this what Dave call's "the cobra generation"?

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1/23/2008 8:26am
He is WFO. How old is this kid 9, 10?
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1/23/2008 8:30am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2008 8:46am
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1/23/2008 8:34am
Sometimes the kids have more sense than the old guys.
I was at a recent race where the first two or three kids on 85s were doing a ninety foot double. the kid in fourth would scrub and single it and not lose much time. I didn't see a single kid case it.
Then comes the Vet B class and the first couple guys do it, then about three guys case it hard, feet flying off the pegs. One guy crashes and gets run over. Total carnage. Guys in 8th and 9th place were attempting it and getting slammed.
Pretty illuminating.
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1/23/2008 8:35am
It's a fine line between scared and stupid
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1/23/2008 9:43am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="flarider":3ufx9kcc]It's a fine line between scared and stupid[/quote:3ufx9kcc]
The finish line.
1/23/2008 10:37am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="BDOG":1mqzqcey]WOW! http://www.vurbmoto.com/site/index.php? ... tlink&id=2[/quote:1mqzqcey]

I was there when they were filming that, the RX crew was there doing a photo shoot and with Zach Freeberg I guess too

He is fast and solid, faster than what that bike can do for him, its wide open around every corner. The most impressive thing is he does every lap exactly the same, he never seems to screw up. Once he gets on bigger bikes I think he's going to explode like Villopoto
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I believe it's hard to say what will happen to these kids in comparison to the existing crop of riders. We have seen already that the current tracks just aren’t enough. Either everyone is going to go a lot faster and the injuries will be much worse, or we are going to find a way to slow them down. This kid here shown, flat out hauls. Many others are as well. There is no reason to go 5th gear pinned over a large jump in a race if everyone else is doing it as well.
1/23/2008 10:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="Tiki":16d4hefp]I believe it's hard to say what will happen to these kids in comparison to the existing crop of riders. We have seen already that the current tracks just aren’t enough. Either everyone is going to go a lot faster and the injuries will be much worse, or we are going to find a way to slow them down. This kid here shown, flat out hauls. Many others are as well. There is no reason to go 5th gear pinned over a large jump in a race if everyone else is doing it as well.[/quote:16d4hefp]



The evolution of the sport. They will keep getting faster and the sport will keep getting more dangerous.
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1/23/2008 10:57am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="BDOG":15pdhvf3][quote="Tiki":15pdhvf3]I believe it's hard to say what will happen to these kids in comparison to the existing crop of riders. We have seen already that the current tracks just aren’t enough. Either everyone is going to go a lot faster and the injuries will be much worse, or we are going to find a way to slow them down. This kid here shown, flat out hauls. Many others are as well. There is no reason to go 5th gear pinned over a large jump in a race if everyone else is doing it as well.[/quote:15pdhvf3]



The evolution of the sport. They will keep getting faster and the sport will keep getting more dangerous.[/quote:15pdhvf3]
While I agree there is a point of too fast. Every racing sport has slowed down the racers. Its just outta hand now. 85's are ridden faster then 500's were in 1980. There is no sense for that IMO.
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1/23/2008 11:41am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
why the hell is a 9 year old kid sponsored by monster? it says right on the can "not for use by children or those sensitive to caffiene"
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1/23/2008 11:44am
WFO until the bike or body breaks.
1/23/2008 11:46am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="mx757":3lariz2s]why the hell is a 9 year old kid sponsored by monster? it says right on the can "not for use by children or those sensitive to caffiene"[/quote:3lariz2s]

Please, kids are the only people I see drinking any of those damn things anymore. :?

Kids are caffeine addicts by middle school these days. It's horrifying.
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1/23/2008 11:52am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
Its sometimes hard to see just how fast the new generation is but go to an amateur national and it will make your head spin just how good these kids are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZafmHfswn4
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1/23/2008 6:27pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="BDOG":18p9798m]WOW! http://www.vurbmoto.com/site/index.php? ... tlink&id=2[/quote:18p9798m]

Man those KX 60s are amazing, I honesty think they are one of the best motors ever produced.
1/23/2008 6:39pm
That kid goes faster around corners than I do going down straights.
1/23/2008 7:03pm
KX85.
He was a little slower on his 65!
1/24/2008 6:36am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
AC,Tomac, Barcia, etc. are all products of the "Cobra Generation" and true signs of the evolution of the sport. They grow up on race tracks as they travel the country chasing good riding weather, viable competition and National Championship Titles. They are mostly home schooled and have practically been on a bike since they could walk. This lifestyle virtually eleminates the possibility of a kid with a "normal" school and home environment being competitive on the national stage in MX. There may be exceptions, but not many.

Many of the top kids in the amateur ranks are already here in north Texas preparing for Whitney and Oak Hill. One can go to virtually any track in this area and see national caliber amateur riders ripping up the tracks on any day of the week. They are fun to watch but, to me, it is really kind of sad on many levels.
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1/24/2008 6:57am
I thought the point of racing was to go as fast as possible?
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1/24/2008 7:03am
All motorsports at some point took actions to slow down and/or tighten up the racing
F1, MotoGP, WSB, NASCAR, IRL and more
At some point, rider/driver safety has to take precedence over speed
Dead or injured racers can't race and that really hurts the racing
1/24/2008 7:04am
I think it is pretty cool. Back in my day you could start out late and be competitive on minis. Not anymore.
1/24/2008 7:09am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="evsracer912":27lxypl7]I thought the point of racing was to go as fast as possible?[/quote:27lxypl7]

Of course it is, but at what expense? At some point in their lives, these kids will be all used up in racing and will need to "fall back" on their education and socialization skills that most "normal" kids learn in school. My point is that I would not choose this route for my kids at the expense of education and socialization that mainstream schooling provides. There will be life after MX and it is my responsibility to make sure my kids are prepared for that.
1/24/2008 7:22am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="Oldskool":25js3rp8]AC,Tomac, Barcia, etc. are all products of the "Cobra Generation" and true signs of the evolution of the sport. They grow up on race tracks as they travel the country chasing good riding weather, viable competition and National Championship Titles. They are mostly home schooled and have practically been on a bike since they could walk. This lifestyle virtually eleminates the possibility of a kid with a "normal" school and home environment being competitive on the national stage in MX. There may be exceptions, but not many.

Many of the top kids in the amateur ranks are already here in north Texas preparing for Whitney and Oak Hill. One can go to virtually any track in this area and see national caliber amateur riders ripping up the tracks on any day of the week. They are fun to watch but, to me, it is really kind of sad on many levels.[/quote:25js3rp8]


Quick point, don't lump Eli Tomac into the category of socially retarded homeschooled mini riders. The Tomac's aren't raising the kid that way.
1/24/2008 7:29am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="WORCSRACER":w7i17uno]

Quick point, don't lump Eli Tomac into the category of socially retarded homeschooled mini riders. The Tomac's aren't raising the kid that way.[/quote:w7i17uno]

[quote:w7i17uno]There may be exceptions, but not many.[/quote:w7i17uno]
1/24/2008 8:09am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="WORCSRACER":1l38aylg]

Quick point, don't lump Eli Tomac into the category of socially retarded homeschooled mini riders. The Tomac's aren't raising the kid that way.[/quote:1l38aylg]

Both Tomac and Anderson have great parents that arent raising their kids in that category and I think its great to see that they are two of the top kids in the Am Nationals. Both kids are super cool to talk to.
1/25/2008 9:37am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:05pm
[quote="Oldskool":3jdq0079]AC,Tomac, Barcia, etc. are all products of the "Cobra Generation" and true signs of the evolution of the sport. They grow up on race tracks as they travel the country chasing good riding weather, viable competition and National Championship Titles. They are mostly home schooled and have practically been on a bike since they could walk. This lifestyle virtually eleminates the possibility of a kid with a "normal" school and home environment being competitive on the national stage in MX. There may be exceptions, but not many.

Many of the top kids in the amateur ranks are already here in north Texas preparing for Whitney and Oak Hill. One can go to virtually any track in this area and see national caliber amateur riders ripping up the tracks on any day of the week. They are fun to watch but, to me, it is really kind of sad on many levels.[/quote:3jdq0079]


Let's realize something important about "normal" school, i.e. "public education". Do you really think it takes 13 years of sitting in a classroom for 6 hours a day to gain the knowledge that's behind a high school diploma? My lord, no!

These kids and their families have alot of friends that they travel, ride, and compete with. Compared with the average kid who is sitting in a chair all day long staring at a government employee who's trying to find a way to explain simple concepts so that the slow students might understand, actually being out in the world being challenged and developing themselves isn't sad at all.

Sad is "I just sat in a chair all day, listening--now I want to sit in front of the game console."

I don't know Adam's parents personally, but I've had a few words with her at the track before, they are sharp people. I've got no doubt if they've been able to develop such a success on the track that they can also handle getting him what he needs academically and socially, too.

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