Would you like to see Jett Lawrence eventually racing MXGP's

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3/15/2024 4:03pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2024 4:03pm
McG194 wrote:
Why would he want to? To make less money and race against lesser competition?  Especially with SMX and all the money up for grabs I see...

Why would he want to? To make less money and race against lesser competition? 

Especially with SMX and all the money up for grabs I see a lot more guys coming here in the near future. 

Lesser competition? Stop. It's not even debatable MXGP is the premier 450 outdoor championship. 

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If I was in his shoes I think having every premier class title available would be a badass stat to own. MXGP is arguably the faster outdoor series right now (flame away) and that would no doubt make it even more of a statement. 

However it would likely come at the cost of giving up on the 73 wins dream, which seems like something he’s motivated to go for. 

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3/15/2024 5:00pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2024 5:02pm
Old Mate wrote:

Only good reason is Australia has a fair few AMA tittles but no one from Aus has EVER won a pro world title in either class

Moto Braap wrote:

Jett already won mini world championships.

We have had lots of world mini, even first time I took the junior team over we won the nations title, we have never won a pro title but NZ has 6 if you count Womens as well as 2 male.

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No joke.  ADD meds aren’t exactly performance enhancing compared to the juiced steroid controversies in many other sports where you gain 50 pounds of muscle.  Someone...

No joke.  ADD meds aren’t exactly performance enhancing compared to the juiced steroid controversies in many other sports where you gain 50 pounds of muscle.  Someone wanted to take him out somehow.  What was that fan doing crossing the track and his crashed with RC weren’t all his fault.

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de·lu·sion·al

characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.

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You believe it was worth taking Stew off the bike disrupting his pro career as one of the best ever over ADD meds?

You’re forgetting that the way the Stew, Tickle and Craig suspensions played out had a real bearing on why FeldMxSports left the FIM and WADA. The punishment didn’t match the crime. With that said Stew bears a brunt of the blame as it was his responsibility to submit the TUE which he failed to do. If he would have followed the procedures laid out he would have been fine….the industry, MC nor Dungey have anything do do with that…try to move on from conspiracy to fact…it may make you feel better. 

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Old Mate wrote:

Only good reason is Australia has a fair few AMA tittles but no one from Aus has EVER won a pro world title in either class

Moto Braap wrote:

Jett already won mini world championships.

Old Mate wrote:
We have had lots of world mini, even first time I took the junior team over we won the nations title, we have never won a...

We have had lots of world mini, even first time I took the junior team over we won the nations title, we have never won a pro title but NZ has 6 if you count Womens as well as 2 male.

Instead of spending time going around the globe I think Jett will be plenty satisfied by kicking everyone’s butt at the motocross of nations only having to give up 1 weekend and smoking any country that wants to enter with their best riders as his challenge and putting that on his resume.

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DonM wrote:

de·lu·sion·al

characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.

Moto Braap wrote:

You believe it was worth taking Stew off the bike disrupting his pro career as one of the best ever over ADD meds?

DonM wrote:
You’re forgetting that the way the Stew, Tickle and Craig suspensions played out had a real bearing on why FeldMxSports left the FIM and WADA. The...

You’re forgetting that the way the Stew, Tickle and Craig suspensions played out had a real bearing on why FeldMxSports left the FIM and WADA. The punishment didn’t match the crime. With that said Stew bears a brunt of the blame as it was his responsibility to submit the TUE which he failed to do. If he would have followed the procedures laid out he would have been fine….the industry, MC nor Dungey have anything do do with that…try to move on from conspiracy to fact…it may make you feel better. 

I am not sure about the process of submitting for exemption for any medications but his family is right on top of things having the savvy to build a track, mansion, millions, a Tv show, and seven gear but not be able to handle paperwork for an innocent drug that doesn’t seem to have anything to do with improving his bike or racing skills.  If Addaral was a secret to success they would have more kids on it.  Stewart can beat anyone with no drugs and it should have been a personal thing but I don’t know why they made such a big deal about that pill and how the process got delayed so long.  I am sure there are a list of things you can’t take without permission but there are so many bad drugs in history to teach people about not taking or abusing and i hope his controversy didn’t discourage kids who would be encouraged from taking it to say no based on Stew getting in trouble.

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Moto Braap wrote:

You believe it was worth taking Stew off the bike disrupting his pro career as one of the best ever over ADD meds?

DonM wrote:
You’re forgetting that the way the Stew, Tickle and Craig suspensions played out had a real bearing on why FeldMxSports left the FIM and WADA. The...

You’re forgetting that the way the Stew, Tickle and Craig suspensions played out had a real bearing on why FeldMxSports left the FIM and WADA. The punishment didn’t match the crime. With that said Stew bears a brunt of the blame as it was his responsibility to submit the TUE which he failed to do. If he would have followed the procedures laid out he would have been fine….the industry, MC nor Dungey have anything do do with that…try to move on from conspiracy to fact…it may make you feel better. 

Moto Braap wrote:
I am not sure about the process of submitting for exemption for any medications but his family is right on top of things having the savvy...

I am not sure about the process of submitting for exemption for any medications but his family is right on top of things having the savvy to build a track, mansion, millions, a Tv show, and seven gear but not be able to handle paperwork for an innocent drug that doesn’t seem to have anything to do with improving his bike or racing skills.  If Addaral was a secret to success they would have more kids on it.  Stewart can beat anyone with no drugs and it should have been a personal thing but I don’t know why they made such a big deal about that pill and how the process got delayed so long.  I am sure there are a list of things you can’t take without permission but there are so many bad drugs in history to teach people about not taking or abusing and i hope his controversy didn’t discourage kids who would be encouraged from taking it to say no based on Stew getting in trouble.

Bottom line James and his team f'ed up, Addarall was and is on the banned substance list...his team did fuck up and were not on top of it(the same team that also had the nurse for IV's at Millville...also against the rules)....obviously you know zero about the benefits of addarall regarding physical activity and focus....its why it's on every banned substance list for sports. Your ignorance regarding the procedures regarding banned substances is no excuse....he and his team had the same ignorance as you...but as a professional athlete it is the responsibility of the athlete to understand the rules and regulations of the sport...and to claim ignorance is not an excuse...WADA treated MX just as they do Olympic sports and many of the WADA rules are in place for the Olympics which is why many penalties are 4 yrs....doesn't fit MX but WADA was the only option when dealing with the FIM....again not MC's, the industry or Dungey's fault...

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3/16/2024 5:13am Edited Date/Time 3/16/2024 5:16am
DonM wrote:
You’re forgetting that the way the Stew, Tickle and Craig suspensions played out had a real bearing on why FeldMxSports left the FIM and WADA. The...

You’re forgetting that the way the Stew, Tickle and Craig suspensions played out had a real bearing on why FeldMxSports left the FIM and WADA. The punishment didn’t match the crime. With that said Stew bears a brunt of the blame as it was his responsibility to submit the TUE which he failed to do. If he would have followed the procedures laid out he would have been fine….the industry, MC nor Dungey have anything do do with that…try to move on from conspiracy to fact…it may make you feel better. 

Moto Braap wrote:
I am not sure about the process of submitting for exemption for any medications but his family is right on top of things having the savvy...

I am not sure about the process of submitting for exemption for any medications but his family is right on top of things having the savvy to build a track, mansion, millions, a Tv show, and seven gear but not be able to handle paperwork for an innocent drug that doesn’t seem to have anything to do with improving his bike or racing skills.  If Addaral was a secret to success they would have more kids on it.  Stewart can beat anyone with no drugs and it should have been a personal thing but I don’t know why they made such a big deal about that pill and how the process got delayed so long.  I am sure there are a list of things you can’t take without permission but there are so many bad drugs in history to teach people about not taking or abusing and i hope his controversy didn’t discourage kids who would be encouraged from taking it to say no based on Stew getting in trouble.

DonM wrote:
Bottom line James and his team f'ed up, Addarall was and is on the banned substance list...his team did fuck up and were not on top...

Bottom line James and his team f'ed up, Addarall was and is on the banned substance list...his team did fuck up and were not on top of it(the same team that also had the nurse for IV's at Millville...also against the rules)....obviously you know zero about the benefits of addarall regarding physical activity and focus....its why it's on every banned substance list for sports. Your ignorance regarding the procedures regarding banned substances is no excuse....he and his team had the same ignorance as you...but as a professional athlete it is the responsibility of the athlete to understand the rules and regulations of the sport...and to claim ignorance is not an excuse...WADA treated MX just as they do Olympic sports and many of the WADA rules are in place for the Olympics which is why many penalties are 4 yrs....doesn't fit MX but WADA was the only option when dealing with the FIM....again not MC's, the industry or Dungey's fault...

Thank you for sharing this because despite extensive schooling and degrees plus working with some ADD kids I didn’t get into their Addarall or think that it would be any help except that it would help someone to catch up to speed.  During the process they didn’t make it clear that it would offer any kind of potential advantage but I just thought of it as a drug idea as any other they might require you to tell them about from your rx bin.  Furthermore, to have it banned across other sports was not emphasized either as more convincing.  I knew IV is off limits after Henry was doing it.  I guess the fastest man on the planet and the crashest one too lawn darted with the drug issue but good to see he bounced back w kids, a podcast, coaching, and tv whenever he wants.

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Why the hell would he want to do that?  Makes zero sense!

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I know a few mechanics in the MXGP series and they are so over all the airports and travel. The same goes for the riders. It's a ball-ache for everyone involved.

Both the US SX and MX series is a luxury when travel is concerned and it is a safe bet that Factory riders in the US are better paid.

Hunter and Jett went through Europe to get to the states. There is no logical reason why Jett would consider going back.

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Boomslang wrote:
I know a few mechanics in the MXGP series and they are so over all the airports and travel. The same goes for the riders. It's...

I know a few mechanics in the MXGP series and they are so over all the airports and travel. The same goes for the riders. It's a ball-ache for everyone involved.

Both the US SX and MX series is a luxury when travel is concerned and it is a safe bet that Factory riders in the US are better paid.

Hunter and Jett went through Europe to get to the states. There is no logical reason why Jett would consider going back.

I think the MXGP's should be limited to Europe, because traveling to some of these far off places they go is dumb.  Indonesia, China and Argentina, no need sending the riders and teams there. 

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Boomslang wrote:
I know a few mechanics in the MXGP series and they are so over all the airports and travel. The same goes for the riders. It's...

I know a few mechanics in the MXGP series and they are so over all the airports and travel. The same goes for the riders. It's a ball-ache for everyone involved.

Both the US SX and MX series is a luxury when travel is concerned and it is a safe bet that Factory riders in the US are better paid.

Hunter and Jett went through Europe to get to the states. There is no logical reason why Jett would consider going back.

Not sure if anyone mentioned it yet but in addition to traveling we are talking Covid travel with delays and potential cancellations still?  Plus bikes shipping and putting together “handle my Honda with care” insurance.  People like Donnie Schmidt went abroad as something new.

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