Tell Stanton it was creatine holding him back

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 9:32am
I believe Davi made an motocross discovery for all of us who race, DO NOT TAKE CREATINE. I was taking it and whey protein to hulkify myself but now I best stop and just be happy lookin like Richard Simons.

I hope Six Time called Davi to congradulate him. It's not about training or tatoos or laziness, it was that damn creatine.
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motomike99 2/8/2010 4:02pm
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...just wanted to say...his win was...STRAIGHT UP
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I would like to see what "vitamins" he was taking that contained creatine.
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Whats the problem with using creatine/whey protein and racing motocross? Why not use it?
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They are claiming the Creatine was causing armpump for Davi.

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cillitbang 2/8/2010 4:14pm
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Ahhh okey dokey, anyone else had this problem?
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2/8/2010 4:18pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:39pm
Six time would be no time if RJ didn't get hurt, not too mention take him under his wing and ride & train with him and suggest Honda hire him. Stanton's a miserable shit...with an oversized ego...and a shrine to himself in the basement of his own house.
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motomike99 wrote:
I believe Davi made an motocross discovery for all of us who race, DO NOT TAKE CREATINE. I was taking it and whey protein to hulkify...
I believe Davi made an motocross discovery for all of us who race, DO NOT TAKE CREATINE. I was taking it and whey protein to hulkify myself but now I best stop and just be happy lookin like Richard Simons.

I hope Six Time called Davi to congradulate him. It's not about training or tatoos or laziness, it was that damn creatine.
So creatine causes armpump? sure, and armpump surgery works too right?? lol It's a good theory, but people get armpump without creatine too... always have, always will... it's a mental thing.
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Karma wrote:
Six time would be no time if RJ didn't get hurt, not too mention take him under his wing and ride & train with him and...
Six time would be no time if RJ didn't get hurt, not too mention take him under his wing and ride & train with him and suggest Honda hire him. Stanton's a miserable shit...with an oversized ego...and a shrine to himself in the basement of his own house.
X-2 Jeff well nuf said!
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mxknowitall wrote:
I would like to see what "vitamins" he was taking that contained creatine.
Yeah, you are right Davi should share that with us so we don't make the same mistake. I bet he calls them "vitiamins" but they really are....you know...

HEY YOU CAN'T SAY THE HONDA'S DONT LOOK GOOD THIS YEAR.....they are smokin...it in the hoops.
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Karma wrote:
Six time would be no time if RJ didn't get hurt, not too mention take him under his wing and ride & train with him and...
Six time would be no time if RJ didn't get hurt, not too mention take him under his wing and ride & train with him and suggest Honda hire him. Stanton's a miserable shit...with an oversized ego...and a shrine to himself in the basement of his own house.
he was never really too cool in the pits that's for sure
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the problem with arm pump is it's rarely in the arms...most usually in the head.
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Creatine will mess you up for riding!. It causes your muscles to bloat, hold water, and cramp up easily. Stuff is decent for lifting, but not good for riding. I had to quit taking it years ago for the same reason.
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mxknowitall wrote:
I would like to see what "vitamins" he was taking that contained creatine.
I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to "not realize" you're taking that stuff.

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BAD10 wrote:
Creatine will mess you up for riding!. It causes your muscles to bloat, hold water, and cramp up easily. Stuff is decent for lifting, but not...
Creatine will mess you up for riding!. It causes your muscles to bloat, hold water, and cramp up easily. Stuff is decent for lifting, but not good for riding. I had to quit taking it years ago for the same reason.
Thanks for your feedback. Davi and you are two now proving the point. Man, I need to get off that stuff now. However, my arms don't get pumped up go figure..
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BAD10 wrote:
Creatine will mess you up for riding!. It causes your muscles to bloat, hold water, and cramp up easily. Stuff is decent for lifting, but not...
Creatine will mess you up for riding!. It causes your muscles to bloat, hold water, and cramp up easily. Stuff is decent for lifting, but not good for riding. I had to quit taking it years ago for the same reason.
what about androstene?
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Isn't there creatine in in muscle milk?
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mxknowitall wrote:
I would like to see what "vitamins" he was taking that contained creatine.
Outsider wrote:
I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to...
I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to "not realize" you're taking that stuff.

His trainer said that the supplement company changed the formula of a supplement that he directed Davi to take. He took him off of it after they discovered that the company started adding creatine to the supplement.
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mxknowitall wrote:
I would like to see what "vitamins" he was taking that contained creatine.
Outsider wrote:
I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to...
I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to "not realize" you're taking that stuff.

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His trainer said that the supplement company changed the formula of a supplement that he directed Davi to take. He took him off of it after...
His trainer said that the supplement company changed the formula of a supplement that he directed Davi to take. He took him off of it after they discovered that the company started adding creatine to the supplement.
OK, but creatine is a big selling product, surely they would have that on the labeling and market it as containing creatine... JMO

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FlickitFlat wrote:
Isn't there creatine in in muscle milk?
From the "Lite" version...

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Karma wrote:
Six time would be no time if RJ didn't get hurt, not too mention take him under his wing and ride & train with him and...
Six time would be no time if RJ didn't get hurt, not too mention take him under his wing and ride & train with him and suggest Honda hire him. Stanton's a miserable shit...with an oversized ego...and a shrine to himself in the basement of his own house.
Stanton was much better than most people give him credit for. Even he will admit that he was not near as personable when racing as he is now. Give the guy credit for what he accomplished, nobody out hustled or out worked Jeff Stanton. And what pro rider or any pro athlete for that matter doesn't have a shrine of their accomplishments in their house?
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I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to...
I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to "not realize" you're taking that stuff.

CamP wrote:
His trainer said that the supplement company changed the formula of a supplement that he directed Davi to take. He took him off of it after...
His trainer said that the supplement company changed the formula of a supplement that he directed Davi to take. He took him off of it after they discovered that the company started adding creatine to the supplement.
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OK, but creatine is a big selling product, surely they would have that on the labeling and market it as containing creatine... JMO
I'm sure it was just business as usual until someone read the revised ingredient label and discovered that it had changed.
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The way it was described to me was that Davi was already taking products from the company, and that they were presented with a "New and Improved" version. Davi's trainer (John Louch) had previously told reps from the company that they didn't want anything with creatine in it, and assumed that the new version didn't have it as well. John told me he's taking the blame for not checking it out more thoroughly.
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BobbyM wrote:
what about androstene?


He should just run a 12 week cycle of Testosterone........... LOL

Could add a little DBol kicker for weeks 1 through 4...... Smile
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And some people may say "John" is just full of shit.
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Armpump comes from holding the bike with your arms and not your legs, ive never had a single case of armpump in my life and ive raced outdoors for years. if you grip the bike with your inner thighs and ride on the balls of your feet the bike will do the rest. just remember creatine may or may not be good for you but the bulkier you are, the better your muscular structure the less prone you are to injuries from being thrown, but the down size is more weight for the bike to haul around
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GuyB wrote:
The way it was described to me was that Davi was already taking products from the company, and that they were presented with a "New and...
The way it was described to me was that Davi was already taking products from the company, and that they were presented with a "New and Improved" version. Davi's trainer (John Louch) had previously told reps from the company that they didn't want anything with creatine in it, and assumed that the new version didn't have it as well. John told me he's taking the blame for not checking it out more thoroughly.
ditto.
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Shenzi wrote:
ditto.
Awesome post, Shenzi.
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Armpump comes from holding the bike with your arms and not your legs, ive never had a single case of armpump in my life and ive...
Armpump comes from holding the bike with your arms and not your legs, ive never had a single case of armpump in my life and ive raced outdoors for years. if you grip the bike with your inner thighs and ride on the balls of your feet the bike will do the rest. just remember creatine may or may not be good for you but the bulkier you are, the better your muscular structure the less prone you are to injuries from being thrown, but the down size is more weight for the bike to haul around
and how many Pro races have you won ?
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Outsider wrote:
I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to...
I have a bottle of creatine in the kitchen... big capsules man... sorry, have to call a big, fat BS on that one. Kinda hard to "not realize" you're taking that stuff.

CamP wrote:
His trainer said that the supplement company changed the formula of a supplement that he directed Davi to take. He took him off of it after...
His trainer said that the supplement company changed the formula of a supplement that he directed Davi to take. He took him off of it after they discovered that the company started adding creatine to the supplement.
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OK, but creatine is a big selling product, surely they would have that on the labeling and market it as containing creatine... JMO
FYI - there is no QC, regulation, or Govt entity requirement to accurately display what is actually in weight lifting supplements. I have a very close friend who is a professional body builder and he only uses very specific supplements because there is no regulation in the supplement industry - and he uses the one that tests out the best (there are some testing companies that independently run tests and report them, but most people don't know this). Just because a label says something, doesn't mean thats what's in it when it comes to weight lifting supplements.
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Ive won my share of amateurs but never went pro, but ill tell you what buayyy id tear fire out your ass on the track any day..J/K, why do you ask? are you doubting my wisdom as a motorcycle riding technique guru?

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