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txmxer 1/18/2010 7:53am
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NO! I've raced enough years to know when someone is trying to take someone out. Reed wouldn't have done that move to any other rider on...
NO! I've raced enough years to know when someone is trying to take someone out. Reed wouldn't have done that move to any other rider on the track besides stewart.
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This isn't the C class buddy, if you honestly think that Reed was trying to take him out then you need to quit racing. If you...
This isn't the C class buddy, if you honestly think that Reed was trying to take him out then you need to quit racing. If you check the footage again, Reed was already on the binders starting to turn on the inside with Stewart on the outside. Before Stewart cut down, there was enough room for maybe even one or to more riders to fit in between the two. All Stewart had to do was let off the gas for a second or just sweep around the corner like most. He ran into Reed, there was no Reed brake sliding to take out Stewart. If it was meant to be a takeout, Reed wouldn't of been on the ground. Stewart ran it into him much like there collision at A1 last year. Only difference was this was at a slower pace still in the apex of the corner.
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I'm well above a C class rider buddy. James did cut down early but look at the angle Reed took to the corner. He was past...
I'm well above a C class rider buddy. James did cut down early but look at the angle Reed took to the corner. He was past the apex of the corner meaning he was trying to take him out or a move that was to aggressive. So your saying Reed would never take James out? Remember last year? He tried.
CR was on his brakes the moment his tires hit the ground.

Their lines came together and, because there were two other riders in the corner, there was no where for either guy to go. Sucks.

If you watch both Chad and James, they had been riding those same lines earlier in the night.

As far as past interactions between James and Chad...Chad's move at Vegas was dumb, but, they've both traded some paint with the other in the past.
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What was James going to do had Reed came out of the semi after the race? Is he still concussed from the many rimes he's banged his head?

It's pretty clear James seems to be involved in more "crashes" involving other riders then anyone else. For a guy that is the fastest man on the planet he sure does end up testing dirt samples a lot.

If anyone should be fined it should be James for entering another teams paddock without authorization and touching another teams equipment.

Is there any doubt that had anyone else not names James done that actions would have been taken.

Try that shit in NASCAR and see how fast he ends up in the wall.

No public apology to Partridge?
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motonlnl 1/18/2010 3:28pm
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Chad Reed out!!! It's Offical had surgery on hand approx out for six weeks.
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Everyone in SX & MX wants us to be more like NASCAR.

You are getting your wish.

Enjoy the moment.

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mxpimp wrote:
NO! I've raced enough years to know when someone is trying to take someone out. Reed wouldn't have done that move to any other rider on...
NO! I've raced enough years to know when someone is trying to take someone out. Reed wouldn't have done that move to any other rider on the track besides stewart.
kxf176 wrote:
This isn't the C class buddy, if you honestly think that Reed was trying to take him out then you need to quit racing. If you...
This isn't the C class buddy, if you honestly think that Reed was trying to take him out then you need to quit racing. If you check the footage again, Reed was already on the binders starting to turn on the inside with Stewart on the outside. Before Stewart cut down, there was enough room for maybe even one or to more riders to fit in between the two. All Stewart had to do was let off the gas for a second or just sweep around the corner like most. He ran into Reed, there was no Reed brake sliding to take out Stewart. If it was meant to be a takeout, Reed wouldn't of been on the ground. Stewart ran it into him much like there collision at A1 last year. Only difference was this was at a slower pace still in the apex of the corner.
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I'm well above a C class rider buddy. James did cut down early but look at the angle Reed took to the corner. He was past...
I'm well above a C class rider buddy. James did cut down early but look at the angle Reed took to the corner. He was past the apex of the corner meaning he was trying to take him out or a move that was to aggressive. So your saying Reed would never take James out? Remember last year? He tried.
Since when have 180 turns in SX had a single apex? this is not MotoGP
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I am not going to Read all 6 pages...


But if you notice Reed slams on brakes and tries to miss James.... I think Reed wanted to make a move in that corner...

Secondly, he did not hit James, he lifted his head with an open palm to get his arm out. He took his hand out (broken one) and just got on the bike.

He was not concentrating on Stewart. I think its time Stewart gets humbled. What if Kyle landed up being paralysed, would they let Stewart just carry on.

If it was Lawrence/Reed that moved over in mid-air it would be a different story.
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MX690 1/19/2010 3:17am
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Kyle Partridge made a good point in another post. He was so livid at the stupid move that James made, What would have happened to him, if after the race he went to L&M pit and pushed James bike of the stand?...........interesting.
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Crash82 1/19/2010 7:05am
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v1rus99 wrote:
I am not going to Read all 6 pages... But if you notice Reed slams on brakes and tries to miss James.... I think Reed wanted...
I am not going to Read all 6 pages...


But if you notice Reed slams on brakes and tries to miss James.... I think Reed wanted to make a move in that corner...

Secondly, he did not hit James, he lifted his head with an open palm to get his arm out. He took his hand out (broken one) and just got on the bike.

He was not concentrating on Stewart. I think its time Stewart gets humbled. What if Kyle landed up being paralysed, would they let Stewart just carry on.

If it was Lawrence/Reed that moved over in mid-air it would be a different story.
If you didn't read the whole thread don't post in it. You also need to work on proof reading.
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JustMX 1/19/2010 9:28am
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Geez,

What a bunch of whiny bitches our sport has become.

Chad was pulling a dirty move?

Are you freaking serious?

It wasn't even an aggressive block pass!

How can anybody possibly fault Reed?

oh, I forgot, nobody is supposed to race with Stewart.

There is so little actual racing in our sport right now. I for one am sick of runaways and win streaks.

I am not the biggest fan of Reed's but at least he has the stones to challenge the guy that everybody else that hands the win to Stewart and who seem to think that finishing second to Stewart is the same as a win.

Stewart was completely out of line in what he did AFTER the race. It was premeditated and should have drawn a much more severe penalty than what he ended up with.

At the very least he should be on probation for the rest of the season.

And to the AMA boneheads, a one race suspension?

Have you lost your freaking minds?!!!

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DC 1/19/2010 10:21am
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JustMX,

The AMA actually had nothing to do with the suspension and fine on Chad Reed; it was the FIM race director that came down with that decision, only to be overturned by the FIM stewards panel of Jeff Canfield (with the AMA) and Dirk De Neve (FIM)....

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bigpaparon 1/19/2010 10:34am
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So why dont we just let em fight...i mean chad wouldntt pull a dirty move. or rus someone high at las vegas, just sayin.
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GuyB 1/19/2010 10:37am
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DC wrote:
JustMX, The AMA actually had nothing to do with the suspension and fine on Chad Reed; it was the FIM race director that came down with...
JustMX,

The AMA actually had nothing to do with the suspension and fine on Chad Reed; it was the FIM race director that came down with that decision, only to be overturned by the FIM stewards panel of Jeff Canfield (with the AMA) and Dirk De Neve (FIM)....

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Whoops...I guess it's a little confusing about who was responsible when there are different officials in different team uniforms.
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Zycki11 1/19/2010 10:55am
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I agree GuyB, there should only be one sanctioning body. So the FIM places a penalty/suspension, only to be overturned by the FIM and the AMA? Getting confusing around here....
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GuyB 1/19/2010 10:59am
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The process was a bit long, but it seemed like it worked well.
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Truespode 1/19/2010 11:02am
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JustMX wrote:
Geez, What a bunch of whiny bitches our sport has become. Chad was pulling a dirty move? Are you freaking serious? It wasn't even an aggressive...
Geez,

What a bunch of whiny bitches our sport has become.

Chad was pulling a dirty move?

Are you freaking serious?

It wasn't even an aggressive block pass!

How can anybody possibly fault Reed?

oh, I forgot, nobody is supposed to race with Stewart.

There is so little actual racing in our sport right now. I for one am sick of runaways and win streaks.

I am not the biggest fan of Reed's but at least he has the stones to challenge the guy that everybody else that hands the win to Stewart and who seem to think that finishing second to Stewart is the same as a win.

Stewart was completely out of line in what he did AFTER the race. It was premeditated and should have drawn a much more severe penalty than what he ended up with.

At the very least he should be on probation for the rest of the season.

And to the AMA boneheads, a one race suspension?

Have you lost your freaking minds?!!!

I love reading your stuff!

Makes me miss Shelby and PVMX more and more damnit!

You going to be at the Victory Sports race this weekend in TN? I am thinking of going to spectate.

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Zycki11 1/19/2010 11:10am
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What kind of process do they go through? In a situation like the one that was dealt. Is there a presiding body over another? Or do they collectively make a decision? Just seems odd to me either way.
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DC 1/19/2010 11:30am
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The FIM race director made the call, Kawasaki appealed, and it went to the FIM Race Stewards, who collectively voted that the penalty and suspension were not merited, It's confusing, but like Guy said, it seemed to work in this case.

Does anyone remember the K-Dub penalty and appeal on his takeout of DV12 at Phoenix '04? Ricky's Fuel Gate of '06? This stuff happens all the time, and it's always a little confusing. But like the NFL, I am sure the use of instant reply gave the appeal of the initial call some traction...

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Zycki11 1/19/2010 11:38am
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Thanks DC, I understood the Windham/Cobra appeal. The RC one was a bit far fetched. Knowing Reed got hit with half his team, and it was never overturned. The only reason I could think of was due to, (clear channel then?) Losing due to a great title chase

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2smokefury 1/19/2010 11:42am
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this was dropped apparently that night
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motonlnl 1/19/2010 3:35pm
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JustMX wrote:
Geez, What a bunch of whiny bitches our sport has become. Chad was pulling a dirty move? Are you freaking serious? It wasn't even an aggressive...
Geez,

What a bunch of whiny bitches our sport has become.

Chad was pulling a dirty move?

Are you freaking serious?

It wasn't even an aggressive block pass!

How can anybody possibly fault Reed?

oh, I forgot, nobody is supposed to race with Stewart.

There is so little actual racing in our sport right now. I for one am sick of runaways and win streaks.

I am not the biggest fan of Reed's but at least he has the stones to challenge the guy that everybody else that hands the win to Stewart and who seem to think that finishing second to Stewart is the same as a win.

Stewart was completely out of line in what he did AFTER the race. It was premeditated and should have drawn a much more severe penalty than what he ended up with.

At the very least he should be on probation for the rest of the season.

And to the AMA boneheads, a one race suspension?

Have you lost your freaking minds?!!!


TOTALY AGREE WITH JUSTMX, AT LEAST REED IS THE ONLY RIDER SINCE RC LEFT TO TRY AND PUT IT TO JS, HE MADE SUPERCROSS WORTH WATCHING I WOULD OFF HATE TO SEE NO REED FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS IT WOULD HAVE MADE THE LITES CLASS WORTH MORE, NOW WE HAVE TO WATCH BUBBA CLEAN UP FOR THE NEXT SIX ROUNDS I HOPE REED COMES BACK WITH A NOTHING TO LOOSE ATTITUDE AND MAYBE I WILL BY A TICKET TO WATCH IT.
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Crush 1/19/2010 3:39pm
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DC wrote:
The FIM race director made the call, Kawasaki appealed, and it went to the FIM Race Stewards, who collectively voted that the penalty and suspension were...
The FIM race director made the call, Kawasaki appealed, and it went to the FIM Race Stewards, who collectively voted that the penalty and suspension were not merited, It's confusing, but like Guy said, it seemed to work in this case.

Does anyone remember the K-Dub penalty and appeal on his takeout of DV12 at Phoenix '04? Ricky's Fuel Gate of '06? This stuff happens all the time, and it's always a little confusing. But like the NFL, I am sure the use of instant reply gave the appeal of the initial call some traction...

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DC... What is your opinion on James' getting a warning for knocking the Kawi off it's stand???

And was it truly his first offense??? Do these offenses not roll over year to year?

And do you think they would have treated J-Law the same way???
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petegrath 1/19/2010 4:18pm
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Good questions Crush, but if we're going to compare treatment of James to treatment of Jason I think James has got a lot more fucking up to do before they are treated the same.

If we use the JLaw standard, James still can start a fight with Chad and not get suspended or fined. He's got a few fights left before that happens.

Oh, and I like Lawrence. Hope he gets back to kicking ass on the bike. Just talking about comparing punishments.
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Casemark wrote:
Really, come here and I'll slip the shit out of you like the bitch you are and you can push my bike (that I don't own)...
Really, come here and I'll slip the shit out of you like the bitch you are and you can push my bike (that I don't own) off the stand.

That's a deal to me. I'm ready, are you?
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i seem to have found your anger button. you're kinda silly. maybe time to call it a night?
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rc4187 wrote:
i seem to have found your anger button. you're kinda silly. maybe time to call it a night?
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LOL... Too Funny!!!
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wfo75080 1/19/2010 9:09pm
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DC

Just wondering, at what point does one (1) rider become involved in x amount of crashes that injure (potentially life threatening) and we keep score? One day it might end a riders' career, and I'm not talking navicular! Dangerous,...yes. Negligent, absolutely.

Oh, and I drive a truck! LOL!!

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motonlnl 1/19/2010 9:28pm
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wfo75080 wrote:
DC Just wondering, at what point does one (1) rider become involved in x amount of crashes that injure (potentially life threatening) and we keep score...
DC

Just wondering, at what point does one (1) rider become involved in x amount of crashes that injure (potentially life threatening) and we keep score? One day it might end a riders' career, and I'm not talking navicular! Dangerous,...yes. Negligent, absolutely.

Oh, and I drive a truck! LOL!!

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yzeped 1/19/2010 9:40pm
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so what about the fine for Stewy entering Kawi's pits and knockin over Reed bike? What a tool!
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Lightning78 1/19/2010 10:10pm
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wfo75080 wrote:
DC Just wondering, at what point does one (1) rider become involved in x amount of crashes that injure (potentially life threatening) and we keep score...
DC

Just wondering, at what point does one (1) rider become involved in x amount of crashes that injure (potentially life threatening) and we keep score? One day it might end a riders' career, and I'm not talking navicular! Dangerous,...yes. Negligent, absolutely.

Oh, and I drive a truck! LOL!!

James has been involved in crashes with other riders but......HAVE YOU EVER PAID ATTENTION TO ANY OTHER RIDER ON THE CRICUIT?!???!?!??!!??!?!?

For crying out loud you guys you all pile up on James and have a detailed account of EVERY one of his crashes with other riders but never is there any mention of other irders causing crashes with injury to other irders....just because of the level and hype of stewart if he doesn't come out squeaky clean every single time he gets piled on here so badly ....I am a fan but also a fan of other riders as well and I swear you guys spend way too much time ragging on James just because he is James.....give it a rest seriously.

Can't wait till this weekend if he so much as bumps another rider I can expect to see a thousand threads on the same goddam subject and if another rider wins the race like Dungey did he might get ONE thread....do you see a pattern here?
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Crush 1/19/2010 11:50pm
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It's not that at all Lightning... It's the type of crashes...

Jumping on RC was retarded...

Jumping on Tedesco was retarded...

Cutting in front of Preston was retarded...

Jumping over/under Partridge was retarded...Almost the same as Jacksonville last year...

And then after doing that he still jumped way over on someone during the LCQ...

He might just be the most aware and at the same time, unaware rider in the history of the sport...

Maybe You're right, it is because it's James, but that is because James keeps doing it!!!!!
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DC 1/20/2010 5:36am
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I am not sure what did or did not happen in the Kawasaki pits, so I have to pass on that one.

I am sure Jason Lawrence probably would have been dealt with differently due to his past problems on and off the track, and here's hoping we never find out and that Jason keeps everything on two wheels.

As for James' crashes, I landed on a guy in Pontiac in 1985 and Bader Manneh landed on me at the Rodil Cup. It happens in traffic!

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