Biden’s Foreign Policy: Weakness Exemplar

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For starters, China has told Blnken to F.O. (Actually, they don’t even take his calls…did they do that previously?)…all the while they’re having sit down chats with Vlad. 

Anyone care to discuss what or why they’re meeting Vlad…are the Chinese supplying Russia for the Continuing Ukraine Invasion?

Well…uh…anyone, Bueller, anyone…? 

While we’re here: “The Russian Build Up” began shortly after Joe was elected…pretty sure there’s a message in there, too. The point: they didn’t do this kind of shit when The Donald was POTUS.

So, Iran has already sent weapon systems to Russia. China is looking to do the same. What’s next?  North Korean weps.

The point: Joe’s State Dept…his DoD…and certainly his “Homeland Defense”…ALL…are…

Weak.

Vlad ignores him and continues his invasion. China continuously tells this administration to “Fuck Off” like no previous admin since The Cold War. Joe keeps supporting Ukraine in “half measures” that merely embolden Vlad, For instance, why not get the fuck out of the way and let Poland give them F16s or MiGs? 

What’s really embarrassing his just how stupid they, this administration, seems to think we all…you all…are with the theatrics like yesterday’s “sirens” where NO Secret Service stepped in or were even visible…and NO one flinched…classic. No worries, it’s all “real”. Surely, that wasn’t staged…right…?

But, anyways, we DID get those balloons…well…sorta…Laughing

 

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2/22/2023 11:43am Edited Date/Time 2/22/2023 11:43am

Biden is going to give Jimmy Carter a Free Pass out of being remembered as the worst president in recent history.

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The half- measures are designed specifically to drag this out as long as possible. Ukraine is a gigantic cash laundromat and thousands of innocent people are being killed to make a bunch of politically connected folks a lot richer than they already are.

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Muttly wrote:

Biden is going to give Jimmy Carter a Free Pass out of being remembered as the worst president in recent history.

I didn't respect Jimmy as a leader, but I definitely do respect him as a man. 

I've thought Biden was a buffoon since the day I became aware of his existence (at least 40 years).

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I didn't respect Jimmy as a leader, but I definitely do respect him as a man.  I've thought Biden was a buffoon since the day I...

I didn't respect Jimmy as a leader, but I definitely do respect him as a man. 

I've thought Biden was a buffoon since the day I became aware of his existence (at least 40 years).

It’s not my opinion of Mr. Carter, but common conjecture.

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Muttly wrote:

Biden is going to give Jimmy Carter a Free Pass out of being remembered as the worst president in recent history.

Truth

Notice the Lefty Mobsters and their little thumbs; yet, no rebuttal. They’re gonna ride all of “Joe’s Success” to their doom. Energy costs, Inflation, Secretaries and a VP that constantly f’up, false labor stats…”the border is secure”…escalating Fentanyl addiction & death stats…all of it…

And the band played on. 

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First off, he can't travel 2 hours from DC to Ohio but no problem with the 12 hours to Ukraine.  Does he really believe people can't grasp that he's there representing the Biden crime family and not the US?  Almost as laughable as when Pelosi thought since I'm flying around on taxpayer money might as well stop in and see how my investment is doing in Taiwan. 

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bitch and moan

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bitch and moan

Well, look at the intellectual. You’re obviously happy with the weak old feeble leftist octogenarian that you elected, 

Laughing

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All the Lefties in the "tough to be a liberal" thread claiming all the conservatives do is post meme's, are-not surprisingly-absent from this thread...which isn't a meme...

Typical...

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Titan1 wrote:
All the Lefties in the "tough to be a liberal" thread claiming all the conservatives do is post meme's, are-not surprisingly-absent from this thread...which isn't a...

All the Lefties in the "tough to be a liberal" thread claiming all the conservatives do is post meme's, are-not surprisingly-absent from this thread...which isn't a meme...

Typical...

Intelligence is in short supply among The Narrative Followers. They’re too busy posturing for the various Virtue Signaling awards that they cherish more than reality.  

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Truth Notice the Lefty Mobsters and their little thumbs; yet, no rebuttal. They’re gonna ride all of “Joe’s Success” to their doom. Energy costs, Inflation, Secretaries...

Truth

Notice the Lefty Mobsters and their little thumbs; yet, no rebuttal. They’re gonna ride all of “Joe’s Success” to their doom. Energy costs, Inflation, Secretaries and a VP that constantly f’up, false labor stats…”the border is secure”…escalating Fentanyl addiction & death stats…all of it…

And the band played on. 

Wear them like a badge of honor. 

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2/22/2023 1:01pm

Can you imagine if the military equipment we left in Afghanistan were to get transported to Russia to be used against us? Oh the irony. Or using our missiles to strike Ukraine and then claim is was friendly fire from the Ukranians using American missiles.

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.

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ToolMaker wrote:
Can you imagine if the military equipment we left in Afghanistan were to get transported to Russia to be used against us? Oh the irony. Or...

Can you imagine if the military equipment we left in Afghanistan were to get transported to Russia to be used against us? Oh the irony. Or using our missiles to strike Ukraine and then claim is was friendly fire from the Ukranians using American missiles.

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.

They REALLY don’t like when you bring up “The Surrender of Afghanistan and the BILLIONS in Weapons.” 

But, as usual, they ignore it. Why? It doesn’t fit their Narrative. 

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Titan1 wrote:
All the Lefties in the "tough to be a liberal" thread claiming all the conservatives do is post meme's, are-not surprisingly-absent from this thread...which isn't a...

All the Lefties in the "tough to be a liberal" thread claiming all the conservatives do is post meme's, are-not surprisingly-absent from this thread...which isn't a meme...

Typical...

Sonuvabitch, 

I just browsed that thread.

That thing thing is an embarrassment, and just needs to be deleted. 

 

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2/22/2023 1:26pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2023 1:27pm
ToolMaker wrote:
Can you imagine if the military equipment we left in Afghanistan were to get transported to Russia to be used against us? Oh the irony. Or...

Can you imagine if the military equipment we left in Afghanistan were to get transported to Russia to be used against us? Oh the irony. Or using our missiles to strike Ukraine and then claim is was friendly fire from the Ukranians using American missiles.

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.

TeamGreen wrote:
They REALLY don’t like when you bring up “The Surrender of Afghanistan and the BILLIONS in Weapons.”  But, as usual, they ignore it. Why? It doesn’t...

They REALLY don’t like when you bring up “The Surrender of Afghanistan and the BILLIONS in Weapons.” 

But, as usual, they ignore it. Why? It doesn’t fit their Narrative. 

As I mentioned in a previous thread, the terms of our withdrawal from Afghanistan were negotiated with the Taliban directly by the previous guy in office, including leaving our equipment as part of the deal.

But that doesn't fit your dementia Joe narrative, so I guess it's all his fault in light of the facts.

 

Edited for a spelling error.

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We have Russia and China in the beginning stages of joining forces against us.

And the absolute criminal disaster of our open southern border,  the slow infiltration of China into every aspect of our nation's infrastructure. 

 

But there's still some who are obsessed with a former president,  and a cable news channel.

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ToolMaker wrote:
Can you imagine if the military equipment we left in Afghanistan were to get transported to Russia to be used against us? Oh the irony. Or...

Can you imagine if the military equipment we left in Afghanistan were to get transported to Russia to be used against us? Oh the irony. Or using our missiles to strike Ukraine and then claim is was friendly fire from the Ukranians using American missiles.

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.

TeamGreen wrote:
They REALLY don’t like when you bring up “The Surrender of Afghanistan and the BILLIONS in Weapons.”  But, as usual, they ignore it. Why? It doesn’t...

They REALLY don’t like when you bring up “The Surrender of Afghanistan and the BILLIONS in Weapons.” 

But, as usual, they ignore it. Why? It doesn’t fit their Narrative. 

avidchimp wrote:
As I mentioned in a previous thread, the terms of our withdrawal from Afghanistan were negotiated with the Taliban directly by the previous guy in office...

As I mentioned in a previous thread, the terms of our withdrawal from Afghanistan were negotiated with the Taliban directly by the previous guy in office, including leaving our equipment as part of the deal.

But that doesn't fit your dementia Joe narrative, so I guess it's all his fault in light of the facts.

 

Edited for a spelling error.

Uh, no. Let’s see where that story goes over time. There were negations that were not completed and terms not signed off on. So, there’s always that…

Are you seriously telling us that the way The Biden Administration ABANDONED personnel, weapons and ALLIES in AFG is…somehow…& let’s  be VERY CLEAR…

”Trump’s Fault!”? 

You do realize that is what you’ve implied and it lacks…really lacks…any intellectual honesty and truly falls into TDS territory.

 

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TeamGreen wrote:
Uh, no. Let’s see where that story goes over time. There were negations that were not completed and terms not signed off on. So, there’s always...

Uh, no. Let’s see where that story goes over time. There were negations that were not completed and terms not signed off on. So, there’s always that…

Are you seriously telling us that the way The Biden Administration ABANDONED personnel, weapons and ALLIES in AFG is…somehow…& let’s  be VERY CLEAR…

”Trump’s Fault!”? 

You do realize that is what you’ve implied and it lacks…really lacks…any intellectual honesty and truly falls into TDS territory.

 

It's amazing that there's so many people who can't see that entire ordeal, as the biggest screw up all on biden's plate.

 

The disastrous withdrawal was 100% a product of the current administration. 

Regardless of what was discussed, planned, by the previous president. 

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y'all have that derangement syndrome thats going around..  it's all the same disease you accuse the left of having..

And how you do not see that is remarkable.

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Naw Manny, I don't have TDS as I never bad mouth the guy in any of these threads. I was simply pointing out that Trump was the one who negotiated the terms of the withdrawal and that the current admin was bound by those terms, otherwise risking a full blown meltdown over there, and that included leaving our resources to the Afghan government to aid in the conflict they had with al Qaeda.

"July 8 — Saying “speed is safety,” Biden moves up the timeline for full troop withdrawal to Aug. 31. Biden acknowledges the move comes as the Taliban “is at its strongest militarily since 2001.” Biden says if he went back on the agreement that Trump made, the Taliban “would have again begun to target our forces” and that “staying would have meant U.S. troops taking casualties. … Once that agreement with the Taliban had been made, staying with a bare minimum force was no longer possible.”

Interesting timeline on how it all went down here...

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afgha…

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Bring on the indictments for fuck sake,, lets really see this place implode!!

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avidchimp wrote:
As I mentioned in a previous thread, the terms of our withdrawal from Afghanistan were negotiated with the Taliban directly by the previous guy in office...

As I mentioned in a previous thread, the terms of our withdrawal from Afghanistan were negotiated with the Taliban directly by the previous guy in office, including leaving our equipment as part of the deal.

But that doesn't fit your dementia Joe narrative, so I guess it's all his fault in light of the facts.

 

Edited for a spelling error.

There was no reason for that cluster F of a pullout . The Chinese were chomping at the bit to get in there and start their mining operations started.

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There was no reason for that cluster F of a pullout . The Chinese were chomping at the bit to get in there and start their...

There was no reason for that cluster F of a pullout . The Chinese were chomping at the bit to get in there and start their mining operations started.

Read the link I posted, a ton of useful info as to why it was the way it was.

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rosebud441 wrote:
y'all have that derangement syndrome thats going around..  it's all the same disease you accuse the left of having.. And how you do not see that...

y'all have that derangement syndrome thats going around..  it's all the same disease you accuse the left of having..

And how you do not see that is remarkable.

One guy was supposedly going to end the world by getting us into WW3 and the other guy is actually doing it.

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avidchimp wrote:
Naw Manny, I don't have TDS as I never bad mouth the guy in any of these threads. I was simply pointing out that Trump was...

Naw Manny, I don't have TDS as I never bad mouth the guy in any of these threads. I was simply pointing out that Trump was the one who negotiated the terms of the withdrawal and that the current admin was bound by those terms, otherwise risking a full blown meltdown over there, and that included leaving our resources to the Afghan government to aid in the conflict they had with al Qaeda.

"July 8 — Saying “speed is safety,” Biden moves up the timeline for full troop withdrawal to Aug. 31. Biden acknowledges the move comes as the Taliban “is at its strongest militarily since 2001.” Biden says if he went back on the agreement that Trump made, the Taliban “would have again begun to target our forces” and that “staying would have meant U.S. troops taking casualties. … Once that agreement with the Taliban had been made, staying with a bare minimum force was no longer possible.”

Interesting timeline on how it all went down here...

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afgha…

FTR, as long as we were “on the ground” and held Bagram and the forces there-in, we were not bound by any previous perceptions nor were we on weak footing. Think about what’s being said here: This administration’s COMPLETE FAIL has nothing to do with any previous administration or agreement…

It is purely about HOW they got out…Logistically, Militarily and most notably…Administratively.

ALL of that was The Biden Administration. To say otherwise is folly.   

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avidchimp wrote:
Naw Manny, I don't have TDS as I never bad mouth the guy in any of these threads. I was simply pointing out that Trump was...

Naw Manny, I don't have TDS as I never bad mouth the guy in any of these threads. I was simply pointing out that Trump was the one who negotiated the terms of the withdrawal and that the current admin was bound by those terms, otherwise risking a full blown meltdown over there, and that included leaving our resources to the Afghan government to aid in the conflict they had with al Qaeda.

"July 8 — Saying “speed is safety,” Biden moves up the timeline for full troop withdrawal to Aug. 31. Biden acknowledges the move comes as the Taliban “is at its strongest militarily since 2001.” Biden says if he went back on the agreement that Trump made, the Taliban “would have again begun to target our forces” and that “staying would have meant U.S. troops taking casualties. … Once that agreement with the Taliban had been made, staying with a bare minimum force was no longer possible.”

Interesting timeline on how it all went down here...

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afgha…

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FTR, as long as we were “on the ground” and held Bagram and the forces there-in, we were not bound by any previous perceptions nor were...

FTR, as long as we were “on the ground” and held Bagram and the forces there-in, we were not bound by any previous perceptions nor were we on weak footing. Think about what’s being said here: This administration’s COMPLETE FAIL has nothing to do with any previous administration or agreement…

It is purely about HOW they got out…Logistically, Militarily and most notably…Administratively.

ALL of that was The Biden Administration. To say otherwise is folly.   

I don't disagree with you, Manny. It was a fucking disaster and I wouldn't be surprised if the current admin. said "fuck it, we are just doing what he wanted and let's just blame that guy when it's all fubar'd."

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TeamGreen wrote:
They REALLY don’t like when you bring up “The Surrender of Afghanistan and the BILLIONS in Weapons.”  But, as usual, they ignore it. Why? It doesn’t...

They REALLY don’t like when you bring up “The Surrender of Afghanistan and the BILLIONS in Weapons.” 

But, as usual, they ignore it. Why? It doesn’t fit their Narrative. 

avidchimp wrote:
As I mentioned in a previous thread, the terms of our withdrawal from Afghanistan were negotiated with the Taliban directly by the previous guy in office...

As I mentioned in a previous thread, the terms of our withdrawal from Afghanistan were negotiated with the Taliban directly by the previous guy in office, including leaving our equipment as part of the deal.

But that doesn't fit your dementia Joe narrative, so I guess it's all his fault in light of the facts.

 

Edited for a spelling error.

TeamGreen wrote:
Uh, no. Let’s see where that story goes over time. There were negations that were not completed and terms not signed off on. So, there’s always...

Uh, no. Let’s see where that story goes over time. There were negations that were not completed and terms not signed off on. So, there’s always that…

Are you seriously telling us that the way The Biden Administration ABANDONED personnel, weapons and ALLIES in AFG is…somehow…& let’s  be VERY CLEAR…

”Trump’s Fault!”? 

You do realize that is what you’ve implied and it lacks…really lacks…any intellectual honesty and truly falls into TDS territory.

 

Most never listened to any of Trumps interviews where he said the equipment could have easily been moved and flown across the border to Pakistan (I think is what it was, don't remember) or another neighbor.

He also said that at no time were unarmed civilians to be the last to go.

(How would that even work? 45,000 unarmed untrained people just go buy a ticket out of enemy territory?)

He also stated that the afghans became the worlds largest arms dealer after the pullout selling most on the dark web and to China and Russia.

Trump also said most of it was brand new, never used stuff, still in original wrapping and some of it had top secret technology.  ( I read a piece on some bad ass night vision goggs with a HUD and range finder built in.  )

The movie War Dogs sounds similar where they buy 100 million rounds of WW2 ammo stored in an Albanian bunker for 50 years.

 

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Bring on the indictments for fuck sake,, lets really see this place implode!!

Why do you think we give a shit  ??

Seriously, the thread is about biden's disastrous foreign policy. 

Try staying on topic.

 

I'm sure you can scroll down and resurrect a Trump thread.

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avidchimp wrote:
Naw Manny, I don't have TDS as I never bad mouth the guy in any of these threads. I was simply pointing out that Trump was...

Naw Manny, I don't have TDS as I never bad mouth the guy in any of these threads. I was simply pointing out that Trump was the one who negotiated the terms of the withdrawal and that the current admin was bound by those terms, otherwise risking a full blown meltdown over there, and that included leaving our resources to the Afghan government to aid in the conflict they had with al Qaeda.

"July 8 — Saying “speed is safety,” Biden moves up the timeline for full troop withdrawal to Aug. 31. Biden acknowledges the move comes as the Taliban “is at its strongest militarily since 2001.” Biden says if he went back on the agreement that Trump made, the Taliban “would have again begun to target our forces” and that “staying would have meant U.S. troops taking casualties. … Once that agreement with the Taliban had been made, staying with a bare minimum force was no longer possible.”

Interesting timeline on how it all went down here...

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afgha…

TeamGreen wrote:
FTR, as long as we were “on the ground” and held Bagram and the forces there-in, we were not bound by any previous perceptions nor were...

FTR, as long as we were “on the ground” and held Bagram and the forces there-in, we were not bound by any previous perceptions nor were we on weak footing. Think about what’s being said here: This administration’s COMPLETE FAIL has nothing to do with any previous administration or agreement…

It is purely about HOW they got out…Logistically, Militarily and most notably…Administratively.

ALL of that was The Biden Administration. To say otherwise is folly.   

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I don't disagree with you, Manny. It was a fucking disaster and I wouldn't be surprised if the current admin. said "fuck it, we are just...

I don't disagree with you, Manny. It was a fucking disaster and I wouldn't be surprised if the current admin. said "fuck it, we are just doing what he wanted and let's just blame that guy when it's all fubar'd."

That’s the thing…

From his media darlings to his blind narrative followers…

He creates huge fucking messes and they cheer.

Unfuckingbelievable. 

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