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You are expected to pay for it, it is not "free" it is not advertised as "free" or even intended to be "free," it is only "free" to dirtbags like RC16 who try to skip out on paying their bill.
If you sit down in a restaurant, you are expected to pay your bill.
No one will ask you your ability to pay the bill or not, but you will be served.
You will receive a bill at the end of your meal that you are expected to pay
If you skip out on that bill, is that meal "free?"
In your mind, it is a free meal and that restaurant offers "everyone in this country" free meals.
In my mind, it's been stolen by a deadbeat
As Mr. Reid recounts, Nikki tried everything to get medical care, but no insurance company would accept someone with her pre-existing condition. She spent months painfully writing letters to anyone she thought might be able to help. She fought tenaciously for her life.
Finally, Nikki collapsed at her home in Tennessee and was rushed to a hospital emergency room, which was then required to treat her without payment until her condition stabilized. Since money was no longer an issue, the hospital performed 25 emergency surgeries on Nikki, and she spent six months in critical care.
“When Nikki showed up at the emergency room, she received the best of care, and the hospital spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on her,” her step-father, Tony Deal, told me. “But that’s not when she needed the care.”
By then it was too late. In 2006, Nikki White died at age 32. “Nikki didn’t die from lupus,” her doctor, Amylyn Crawford, told Mr. Reid. “Nikki died from complications of the failing American health care system.”
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Healthcare for Tennessee residents that can't afford it
I think its awesome that the POS's around her can now use her as a martyr. If her Dr. cared so much why didn't she treat her pro bono?
"There is free care available to everyone in this country via clinics and the ER."
Now you're changing it to "people on public assistance"
Dude, even I admit when I misstate something, just admit you misstated it and move on, geeez....
You're acting like fucking Nerd, damn...give it up
Really?
Is the guy who ducked out on his restaurant bill NOT a deadbeat?
Your determination to make the victim into the villain is typical. If you know of something specific about this woman and her case that refutes the article, say what it is. Otherwise, the information we have is what's in the article, which has been researched and vouched for as authentic. And it's such a common story that there's no reason to question it.
i do agree that not being able to get ins because of preexisting issues is a huge problem, my wife has a couple things they wouldnt cover.
Want me to convert it to sign language?
Maybe an mp3?
Awesome.
What about an indigent person?
How about a person brought in unconscious?
Are they thieves?
What would you call someone who claimed they would pay their bill and are expected to do so, but does not?
You just trying to NOT read my response or start a pissing match for shits and giggles?
If you say you're going to pay and you don't, what do you call it?
you guys are afuggingmazing ( and you know who you are)
You stated:
YES, a patient will receive a bill for services rendered
YES a patient will receive threats of collection if the patient fails to pay that bill for services rendered
YES, the patient is asked for payment at some point from the time services are rendered.
NOW, just because a patient skips out on their obligation does not mean the clinic or ER offers "free healthcare" as you stated in your comment; "There is free care available to everyone in this country via clinics and the ER."
A deadbeat is a deadbeat, period
So answer the question:
Is an indigent patient a deadbeat?
Pit Row
Read my earlier responses (as stated several times)
Which is bullshit
I was never discussing indigent patients
From this persons view you would have to agree that their care is free.
By the way IMO this discussion is the best so far on the health care debate.
uh, ok.
You go with that.
In that instance, which I think Pelted is going the long way around to get to, I guess he's looking for a "gotcha" moment....but yes, in that instance, which happens thousands of times a day across the country, they would be receiving free healthcare, but that is not the intent of our present system. They do want to be paid by someone if possible.
But this also points out why we need some form of healthcare reform so that everyone who walks (or is delivered) into an ER has an ability to have that ER reimbursed for the services rendered.
As it stands now, there is no silver bullet perfect plan, but something needs to be done and one of the most important parts is that EVERYONE is covered somehow, someway.
You want better healthcare with better choices, you continue doing what you're doing with your present insurer.
You need some form of healthcare but can't afford the same as yours? You buy the cheaper government healthcare which will likely have less choices and services, but is better than nothing and keeps doctors, hospitals and ER's paid for their services....seems fair to everyone
They would be treated to a minimum and sent packing.
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Don't click on promeds link he posted because it's one of those bullshit games that you can't get out of.
Healthcare is not a right Dave. It has been provided at will the of a compassionate country that by and large helps those in need of assistance. Do people fall through the cracks, yes. Do people have issues with their insurance providers, absolutely. Does it need to be scrapped in favor of a single payer Nationalized system, fuck no. Does the President of this country have a clue as to what he is going around the country butt speaking about, a double fuck no. I just object to the mythical starting place that there are 46 million Americans without Healthcare because that is a lie. Let me ask this how come "REFORMING THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM" is going to cost 1 TRILLION DOLLARS? That is not reform, its the government taking it over.
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