The Alessi 4 stroke mini

H.E.penyypacker432 9/3/2022 9:44am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my...
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my friend eddy self raced this class multiple years and has all the proof you could dream of. Ask Clayton miller or any of the others around then they can also verify this
Let’s see picture.
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Sidecar wrote:
Sounds like an awesome bike, post some photos and if anyone has photos of bikes in that class, didn’t Milsaps race a trick DRZ 125/150 4...
Sounds like an awesome bike, post some photos and if anyone has photos of bikes in that class, didn’t Milsaps race a trick DRZ 125/150 4 stroke???
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Yes seely, Davi,Cunningham,Alessi several of them had these bikes.
Harambe Nanny wrote:
You’re seriously trying to make the point that these guys had basically air cooled pit bikes transformed to super mini race bikes? And you’re calling me...
You’re seriously trying to make the point that these guys had basically air cooled pit bikes transformed to super mini race bikes? And you’re calling me a dumb ass? I actually raced amateur nats back then. No one ever lined up to supermini on a pit bike dude
Again man, u started the negativity that I gave right back, yes they did. I find it intriguing all the high profile names that raced it and you are telling us how YOU know it didn’t exist.
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mark293 9/3/2022 9:45am
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I don’t think most of this is true. I also think you’ll disappear and not be man enough to admit that. Show us some one line...
I don’t think most of this is true. I also think you’ll disappear and not be man enough to admit that.

Show us some one line results from this class please.
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Here’s first photo I found after googling results [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/03/566864/s1200_9DA8C173_5F82_4EFD_BE17_869580210275.jpg[/img]
Here’s first photo I found after googling results
We were in this race. I asked Mike to give us his first place trophy if he was unable to lap my son. He didn't and he gave us his first place trophy. I think we were 9th or 10th overall. Been a fan of the 800 ever since. You should have seen the look on my son's face carrying that humongous 6' trophy back to the pits. Good times indeed. Ooops, now that I remember, the race I am referring to took place at Mosier. So it must have been the GNC International Finals in circa 2002. Yea that was it because what is todays KX65 were debuted at this race.
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t_baum88 9/3/2022 9:46am
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Ok first off, Kmiller quit calling people names, that doesn’t help anyone believe you.

Second of all, Kmiller IS correct. There was a one off pitbike class that Davi and Mike raced each other in that I saw in 2003 at Lake Whitney. I remember one of their bikes was more trick than the other and they weren’t able to battle.

I don’t know if it was raced at Mosier or Ponca etc. but I know for a fact it happened at Whitney that year.

Only proof I’ve found so far is in this video.

Skip to 2:20, Davi doing wheelie on his said “pit bike”.

https://youtu.be/A0EoPGGNrKU
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Langhammx 9/3/2022 9:46am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
So your smartest reply was I know nothing about this but I do know your bike isn’t much??? Do you even function bro? Just wait for...
So your smartest reply was I know nothing about this but I do know your bike isn’t much??? Do you even function bro? Just wait for the correct people to chime in before you embarrass yourself. I’m trying to be as respectful as possible but these kind of comments aren’t helping. Millsaps,Alessi and many more raced this class.
You are not being respectful one bit
This Frankenstein bike you have isn’t worth putting gas in it. This is not a “championship class” it was a pit bike kinda race.
So was it protested or claimed ? You’re the one sounding like an idiot here bud…get your story straight !

I was at Ponca and Whitney and don’t remember any pit bikes being claimed there. But again… not saying you’re lying, but this is all new info here.

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Kmiller125 9/3/2022 9:47am
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To be clear I am not trying to offend anyone I just get heated when people that “know it all” don’t have a clue what they’re even posting about and soon enough when enough people see this they will shed light on the subject. Thank you to the polite reply’s so far.
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I won a championship in this class in 2005 so I know it existed. People modded XRs, TTRs and KLXs to 150s for it.

I never heard of Alessi racing it or getting a bike claimed, though. It was all just for fun.
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H.E.penyypacker432 9/3/2022 9:49am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
To be clear I am not trying to offend anyone I just get heated when people that “know it all” don’t have a clue what they’re...
To be clear I am not trying to offend anyone I just get heated when people that “know it all” don’t have a clue what they’re even posting about and soon enough when enough people see this they will shed light on the subject. Thank you to the polite reply’s so far.
Lmao.
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Mossy940 9/3/2022 9:50am
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SX_336 wrote:
This post is all a complete fable. There was a post on here a few short years ago where someone had the Allesi claimed bike. It...
This post is all a complete fable. There was a post on here a few short years ago where someone had the Allesi claimed bike. It had been sitting for a long while. The bike WAS NOT a 4-stroke. It was an 85 Super Mini.
Kmiller125 wrote:
You also are dead wrong and should not comment. This is not about mikes super mini claimed at Loretta’s, it was a mini four stroke built...
You also are dead wrong and should not comment. This is not about mikes super mini claimed at Loretta’s, it was a mini four stroke built for a new class in early 2000s. Please if you are unaware of the subject stfu. You’re not helping nor do we need u in this convo. Read some of the other comments from people that actual remember what I’m talking about. No one is flour chasing or trying to cash in. Idc if it ever sales, just want them to know it’s available
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First off, watch your mouth. Secondly, 4-strokes weren’t even ALLOWED in any mini class until 2007. Mike turned Pro in 2004. Maybe YOU should learn more...
First off, watch your mouth. Secondly, 4-strokes weren’t even ALLOWED in any mini class until 2007. Mike turned Pro in 2004. Maybe YOU should learn more about what you are talking about. Again, this is a complete fable.
Chill down SX.

There was a class for a few years with built mini bikes. DRZ’s, CRFX, TTR, etc….Blake Wharton, Alessi, Millsaps, all of them raced it. It wasn’t a mini class, it was an open class raced on suped up 4 stroke pit bikes

And don’t come in here like a tough guy telling people to watch their mouths, and especially when YOU are the one running on bad info
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Langhammx 9/3/2022 9:51am
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USA wrote:
I won a championship in this class in 2005 so I know it existed. People modded XRs, TTRs and KLXs to 150s for it. I never...
I won a championship in this class in 2005 so I know it existed. People modded XRs, TTRs and KLXs to 150s for it.

I never heard of Alessi racing it or getting a bike claimed, though. It was all just for fun.
BINGO
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Kmiller125 9/3/2022 9:54am
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Clayton miller just txt me back with this lol think you may have heard of him.. he owns freestone
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Langhammx 9/3/2022 9:56am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
Again man, u started the negativity that I gave right back, yes they did. I find it intriguing all the high profile names that raced it...
Again man, u started the negativity that I gave right back, yes they did. I find it intriguing all the high profile names that raced it and you are telling us how YOU know it didn’t exist.
This is part of the confusion
It was NOT a Supermini class
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Kmiller125 9/3/2022 9:57am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
Again man, u started the negativity that I gave right back, yes they did. I find it intriguing all the high profile names that raced it...
Again man, u started the negativity that I gave right back, yes they did. I find it intriguing all the high profile names that raced it and you are telling us how YOU know it didn’t exist.
Langhammx wrote:
This is part of the confusion
It was NOT a Supermini class
Go read I said many times it was “mini four stroke class” even said it has nothing to do with super minis.
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mark293 9/3/2022 9:57am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my...
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my friend eddy self raced this class multiple years and has all the proof you could dream of. Ask Clayton miller or any of the others around then they can also verify this
I remember Eddy and Corey! Hope the entire family is doing well.
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Kmiller125 9/3/2022 9:58am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
You also are dead wrong and should not comment. This is not about mikes super mini claimed at Loretta’s, it was a mini four stroke built...
You also are dead wrong and should not comment. This is not about mikes super mini claimed at Loretta’s, it was a mini four stroke built for a new class in early 2000s. Please if you are unaware of the subject stfu. You’re not helping nor do we need u in this convo. Read some of the other comments from people that actual remember what I’m talking about. No one is flour chasing or trying to cash in. Idc if it ever sales, just want them to know it’s available
SX_336 wrote:
First off, watch your mouth. Secondly, 4-strokes weren’t even ALLOWED in any mini class until 2007. Mike turned Pro in 2004. Maybe YOU should learn more...
First off, watch your mouth. Secondly, 4-strokes weren’t even ALLOWED in any mini class until 2007. Mike turned Pro in 2004. Maybe YOU should learn more about what you are talking about. Again, this is a complete fable.
Mossy940 wrote:
Chill down SX. There was a class for a few years with built mini bikes. DRZ’s, CRFX, TTR, etc….Blake Wharton, Alessi, Millsaps, all of them raced...
Chill down SX.

There was a class for a few years with built mini bikes. DRZ’s, CRFX, TTR, etc….Blake Wharton, Alessi, Millsaps, all of them raced it. It wasn’t a mini class, it was an open class raced on suped up 4 stroke pit bikes

And don’t come in here like a tough guy telling people to watch their mouths, and especially when YOU are the one running on bad info
Think you finally someone with intelligence, bet all the know it alls feel big now!
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Clayton Miller, CHARGE YOUR PHONE! Silly
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FastEddy 9/3/2022 10:00am
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USA wrote:
I won a championship in this class in 2005 so I know it existed. People modded XRs, TTRs and KLXs to 150s for it. I never...
I won a championship in this class in 2005 so I know it existed. People modded XRs, TTRs and KLXs to 150s for it.

I never heard of Alessi racing it or getting a bike claimed, though. It was all just for fun.
That's awesome!
Play bike class!
I remember some kids getting the TTR 125's and tricking them out at local races - I think CMC even allowed them in the 85 class for a while.
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Kmiller125 9/3/2022 10:00am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my...
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my friend eddy self raced this class multiple years and has all the proof you could dream of. Ask Clayton miller or any of the others around then they can also verify this
mark293 wrote:
I remember Eddy and Corey! Hope the entire family is doing well.
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea Eddie wanted me to find out if maybe the alessis or Varner or fmf may want the bike back as it was fully custom built and ahead of it’s time.
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Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 10:02am
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t_baum88 wrote:
Ok first off, Kmiller quit calling people names, that doesn’t help anyone believe you. Second of all, Kmiller IS correct. There was a one off pitbike...
Ok first off, Kmiller quit calling people names, that doesn’t help anyone believe you.

Second of all, Kmiller IS correct. There was a one off pitbike class that Davi and Mike raced each other in that I saw in 2003 at Lake Whitney. I remember one of their bikes was more trick than the other and they weren’t able to battle.

I don’t know if it was raced at Mosier or Ponca etc. but I know for a fact it happened at Whitney that year.

Only proof I’ve found so far is in this video.

Skip to 2:20, Davi doing wheelie on his said “pit bike”.

https://youtu.be/A0EoPGGNrKU
Glad to see you’re still alive and doing well Tbaum
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Kmiller125 wrote:
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my...
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my friend eddy self raced this class multiple years and has all the proof you could dream of. Ask Clayton miller or any of the others around then they can also verify this
mark293 wrote:
I remember Eddy and Corey! Hope the entire family is doing well.
Kmiller125 wrote:
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea...
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea Eddie wanted me to find out if maybe the alessis or Varner or fmf may want the bike back as it was fully custom built and ahead of it’s time.
It ripped for sure, but anything Mike rode ripped. I doubt it would even keep up with a stock CRF150R for comparison's sake.
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Jeff alessi 9/3/2022 10:03am
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Man that was so long ago, I believe it was Whitney, the bike was never ‘claimed’ that only happened 1 time to us and it was at Loretta’s with a fully built race bike from Varner I think supermini class.

They were having experimental classes that mike and davi both signed up for on 4 strokes. Probably xr100 or 150s, they were very slow bikes. Kinda like a pit bike.
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mark293 9/3/2022 10:04am
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Kmiller125 wrote:
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my...
This is easy, ask the alessis or the millsaps camp or seely or any of the others that raced this class, I for one know my friend eddy self raced this class multiple years and has all the proof you could dream of. Ask Clayton miller or any of the others around then they can also verify this
mark293 wrote:
I remember Eddy and Corey! Hope the entire family is doing well.
Kmiller125 wrote:
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea...
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea Eddie wanted me to find out if maybe the alessis or Varner or fmf may want the bike back as it was fully custom built and ahead of it’s time.
I bought Jr a pair of LBZs just because they looked good on Corey05. lol
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Clayton Miller, CHARGE YOUR PHONE! Silly
It’s charged he just txt me 3-4 times lol
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mark293 wrote:
I remember Eddy and Corey! Hope the entire family is doing well.
Kmiller125 wrote:
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea...
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea Eddie wanted me to find out if maybe the alessis or Varner or fmf may want the bike back as it was fully custom built and ahead of it’s time.
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It ripped for sure, but anything Mike rode ripped. I doubt it would even keep up with a stock CRF150R for comparison's sake.
Exactly he was and is a legend
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Kmiller125 9/3/2022 10:07am
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Jeff alessi wrote:
Man that was so long ago, I believe it was Whitney, the bike was never ‘claimed’ that only happened 1 time to us and it was...
Man that was so long ago, I believe it was Whitney, the bike was never ‘claimed’ that only happened 1 time to us and it was at Loretta’s with a fully built race bike from Varner I think supermini class.

They were having experimental classes that mike and davi both signed up for on 4 strokes. Probably xr100 or 150s, they were very slow bikes. Kinda like a pit bike.
Yea it was a popular class around texas at the time. Anyway, I was just going off what I was told and he said they protested the bike and bought it so he could be competitive and that Varner built the motor and fmf had built the pipe and frame cradle for mike. He mostly (Eddie was wanting to know if maybe mike or you guys would want it back before he sales it.
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Kmiller125 9/3/2022 10:08am
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mark293 wrote:
I remember Eddy and Corey! Hope the entire family is doing well.
Kmiller125 wrote:
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea...
They are, still some of my very best friends to this day. Just spent July fourth with the whole family at their new lake house! Yea Eddie wanted me to find out if maybe the alessis or Varner or fmf may want the bike back as it was fully custom built and ahead of it’s time.
mark293 wrote:
I bought Jr a pair of LBZs just because they looked good on Corey05. lol
Oh god!!! 🤣 the lbz days yes!
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Jeff alessi wrote:
Man that was so long ago, I believe it was Whitney, the bike was never ‘claimed’ that only happened 1 time to us and it was...
Man that was so long ago, I believe it was Whitney, the bike was never ‘claimed’ that only happened 1 time to us and it was at Loretta’s with a fully built race bike from Varner I think supermini class.

They were having experimental classes that mike and davi both signed up for on 4 strokes. Probably xr100 or 150s, they were very slow bikes. Kinda like a pit bike.
Thank you Jeff. Hopefully the OP can put his tail between his legs and shut his mouth.
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Kmiller125 9/3/2022 10:10am
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Jeff alessi wrote:
Man that was so long ago, I believe it was Whitney, the bike was never ‘claimed’ that only happened 1 time to us and it was...
Man that was so long ago, I believe it was Whitney, the bike was never ‘claimed’ that only happened 1 time to us and it was at Loretta’s with a fully built race bike from Varner I think supermini class.

They were having experimental classes that mike and davi both signed up for on 4 strokes. Probably xr100 or 150s, they were very slow bikes. Kinda like a pit bike.
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Thank you Jeff. Hopefully the OP can put his tail between his legs and shut his mouth.
Why because I was right? My whole post was about the bike being mikes and retelling what I was told about who built it. You are the one who brought all the other in here. Thanks Jeff ask your old man about it as he probly remembers the bike and the history. No one was trying to cash in on anything just honestly asking if anyone of you may want it before he sales it
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