The Ukraine is in a tight spot

2/24/2022 1:21am
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable...

At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will not touch the baltics...or any other Eastern bloc NATO countries.

This is reciprocity for NATO expansion, plain and simple. Discarding Putin's perspective of his perceived security threat I think will be judged by history as a gigantic mistake...

It can be reversed if written assurance of no Ukraine NATO membership is offered. Pisses me off that in sticking to the "open door" policy, Ukraine is going to pay the highest of prices....
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2/24/2022 1:29am
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable... At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will...
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable...

At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will not touch the baltics...or any other Eastern bloc NATO countries.

This is reciprocity for NATO expansion, plain and simple. Discarding Putin's perspective of his perceived security threat I think will be judged by history as a gigantic mistake...

It can be reversed if written assurance of no Ukraine NATO membership is offered. Pisses me off that in sticking to the "open door" policy, Ukraine is going to pay the highest of prices....
Let`s hope he`s calculated and not delusional. It`s hard to tell lately.
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2/24/2022 1:44am
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable... At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will...
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable...

At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will not touch the baltics...or any other Eastern bloc NATO countries.

This is reciprocity for NATO expansion, plain and simple. Discarding Putin's perspective of his perceived security threat I think will be judged by history as a gigantic mistake...

It can be reversed if written assurance of no Ukraine NATO membership is offered. Pisses me off that in sticking to the "open door" policy, Ukraine is going to pay the highest of prices....
Don't discount this tactic as a distraction from Novalny.
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2/24/2022 2:22am
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable... At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will...
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable...

At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will not touch the baltics...or any other Eastern bloc NATO countries.

This is reciprocity for NATO expansion, plain and simple. Discarding Putin's perspective of his perceived security threat I think will be judged by history as a gigantic mistake...

It can be reversed if written assurance of no Ukraine NATO membership is offered. Pisses me off that in sticking to the "open door" policy, Ukraine is going to pay the highest of prices....
kongols wrote:
Let`s hope he`s calculated and not delusional. It`s hard to tell lately.
His calculations sure seem delusional.

This has so much bad potential, very scary.
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2/24/2022 2:57am
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable... At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will...
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable...

At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will not touch the baltics...or any other Eastern bloc NATO countries.

This is reciprocity for NATO expansion, plain and simple. Discarding Putin's perspective of his perceived security threat I think will be judged by history as a gigantic mistake...

It can be reversed if written assurance of no Ukraine NATO membership is offered. Pisses me off that in sticking to the "open door" policy, Ukraine is going to pay the highest of prices....
kongols wrote:
Let`s hope he`s calculated and not delusional. It`s hard to tell lately.
ns503 wrote:
His calculations sure seem delusional.

This has so much bad potential, very scary.
I dont think there can be anymore tip toeing from Washington.

There needs to be significant mobilization in the far eastern NATO members..but of ALL of the NATO members...but carefully of course...we dont want this to spiral unnecessarily out of control.

Putin must NOT mistake any mobilizations as offensive...but instead as defensive.

Parallel to that...ask for a cease fire, a truce, and offer written assurance of no Ukranian membership.

Give Putin room to walk away with a small victory...dont back him into a corner...otherwise he may view this as a zero sum game
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2/24/2022 3:03am
IanMac138 wrote:
President Vladimir Putin called on Ukrainian soldiers to put down their arms. He said that those who try to interfere with Russia’s actions “must know that...
President Vladimir Putin called on Ukrainian soldiers to put down their arms. He said that those who try to interfere with Russia’s actions “must know that Russia’s answer will be immediate, and will lead to such consequences as you never experienced in your history.”

Sounds like a rational human being.
Sounds like every other leader to me making threats. Pretty sure you could pull a similar quote from the US’s last half dozen presidents😂
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2/24/2022 3:05am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 3:08am
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable... At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will...
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable...

At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will not touch the baltics...or any other Eastern bloc NATO countries.

This is reciprocity for NATO expansion, plain and simple. Discarding Putin's perspective of his perceived security threat I think will be judged by history as a gigantic mistake...

It can be reversed if written assurance of no Ukraine NATO membership is offered. Pisses me off that in sticking to the "open door" policy, Ukraine is going to pay the highest of prices....
Lol Putin is not gonna back pedal out of Ukraine. It’s part of the longer economic game with Turkey and China. He wants a leadership change in Ukraine that aligns with Russia.
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2/24/2022 3:07am
Too many people on here watching MSNBC.
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2/24/2022 3:11am
kongols wrote:
Let`s hope he`s calculated and not delusional. It`s hard to tell lately.
ns503 wrote:
His calculations sure seem delusional.

This has so much bad potential, very scary.
I dont think there can be anymore tip toeing from Washington. There needs to be significant mobilization in the far eastern NATO members..but of ALL of...
I dont think there can be anymore tip toeing from Washington.

There needs to be significant mobilization in the far eastern NATO members..but of ALL of the NATO members...but carefully of course...we dont want this to spiral unnecessarily out of control.

Putin must NOT mistake any mobilizations as offensive...but instead as defensive.

Parallel to that...ask for a cease fire, a truce, and offer written assurance of no Ukranian membership.

Give Putin room to walk away with a small victory...dont back him into a corner...otherwise he may view this as a zero sum game
The west won’t do shit. They already made their decision to abandon the Ukraine. Not one concession was even attempted by them. NATO and America are not gonna get involved. They handed Ukraine to Russia with open eyes.
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2/24/2022 3:42am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 3:42am

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Haven't been active here in years, just singed in to check Kongols updates, remembered you where very active when Russia took Crimea in 2014.

The captured Russians looks very young and from far east Russia, Mongols?
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2/24/2022 4:04am
Ukrainian plane down.


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kongols, whats the mood like in Riga, being 300km from Russia, what are your thoughts on driving to Poland, only two main roads and a few...
kongols, whats the mood like in Riga, being 300km from Russia, what are your thoughts on driving to Poland, only two main roads and a few back road routes
kongols wrote:
I`m too old to run. If anything, I`ll join military. My kids are too young to fight, so it has to be me. I hope it...
I`m too old to run. If anything, I`ll join military. My kids are too young to fight, so it has to be me. I hope it won`t get to that point.
Your country is full member of NATO.
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2/24/2022 4:26am
RalphS wrote:
Fuck Putin, Russian hasn't won a war since WW2 and this one won't be any different.
The US hasn’t won one either….

On a separate note, I haven’t been out this morning, have gas prices doubled yet?
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2/24/2022 4:31am
Not yet. But…..the market isn’t gonna like this.
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2/24/2022 4:47am
RalphS wrote:
Fuck Putin, Russian hasn't won a war since WW2 and this one won't be any different.
reded301 wrote:
The US hasn’t won one either….

On a separate note, I haven’t been out this morning, have gas prices doubled yet?
Gold is up, oil broke $100 a barrel.
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2/24/2022 6:49am
Putins biggest fanboy realizes what`s up.


Czech President Miloš Zeman acknowledged that he mistakenly believed Vladimir Putin wasn’t “crazy enough” to attack Ukraine. He is now calling on the international community to isolate this “madman” and defend itself “not only with words but also with concrete measures.”
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2/24/2022 7:34am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 7:35am
Massive fights going on in the east near Donetsk. Not much success for Russia there. However north and south russians took few cities. Those are forces comming from Crimea , Belarus and Russia.


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2/24/2022 7:36am
I’m worried about once the night falls. If they can’t take it in the day they’ll bomb it at night.
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2/24/2022 7:39am
Checked russian media. Holy shit. Ukrainians are laying down weapons and surrendering. Propaganda in full swing. Gebels would be proud.
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2/24/2022 7:46am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 7:47am
Take it with a grain of salt- ukrainians say they destroyed column of 15 tanks by using Javellins.
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2/24/2022 7:59am
swordfish wrote:
early wrote:
Are you saying Twitter memes warrant an invasion of your country?
No I’m saying I’m surprised that the official Ukrainian Government Twitter account would post them in the first place.

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