Ryan Dungey 2006 Bike for sale SMAI MX race team bike

7/5/2021 8:23pm Edited Date/Time 7/5/2021 8:27pm
djd wrote:
This story really isn't that hard to follow. Minnesota borders Manitoba, very easy to see someone purchase an amateur bike of Ryan's and over time it...
This story really isn't that hard to follow. Minnesota borders Manitoba, very easy to see someone purchase an amateur bike of Ryan's and over time it gets moved up to someone in Canada.
Amateur team bikes aren't like pro race bikes, the riders either sell them at the end of the year or take them back to dealers for them to sell, so it's not uncommon for someone to have a used amateur bike.
The screenshot he posted has the Dungey's address on it and shows the bike is originally from the US...
Picture's will definitely help identify more about the bike!
I think you’ve overlooked a few things in this post. But yeah… it’s totally possible if that’s what was being said, I’d agree with you.
Except at least with Suzuki, the titles to the bikes are given to the riders after Lorettas, as long as you fulfill your contract of racing the nationals that were required. I had to pay $400 for the 450’s, the 250’s were given to us.
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7/5/2021 8:28pm
What ya lookin to get for it ? Is it rode to piss and rusting away?.
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7/5/2021 8:32pm Edited Date/Time 7/5/2021 9:13pm
djd wrote:
This story really isn't that hard to follow. Minnesota borders Manitoba, very easy to see someone purchase an amateur bike of Ryan's and over time it...
This story really isn't that hard to follow. Minnesota borders Manitoba, very easy to see someone purchase an amateur bike of Ryan's and over time it gets moved up to someone in Canada.
Amateur team bikes aren't like pro race bikes, the riders either sell them at the end of the year or take them back to dealers for them to sell, so it's not uncommon for someone to have a used amateur bike.
The screenshot he posted has the Dungey's address on it and shows the bike is originally from the US...
Picture's will definitely help identify more about the bike!
I think you’ve overlooked a few things in this post. But yeah… it’s totally possible if that’s what was being said, I’d agree with you. Except...
I think you’ve overlooked a few things in this post. But yeah… it’s totally possible if that’s what was being said, I’d agree with you.
Except at least with Suzuki, the titles to the bikes are given to the riders after Lorettas, as long as you fulfill your contract of racing the nationals that were required. I had to pay $400 for the 450’s, the 250’s were given to us.
To me the purchase date being in December might mean it was just ordered to fill up an allotment of bikes from his amateur contract.
The Makita graphics could've been slapped on the bike by anyone after the fact in the last 14 years too

Diving into this is actually interesting to me haha, Ryan's last amateur race was at Millville on 5/29/06
https://results.americanmotorcyclist.com/riders/20537-ryan-dungey/resul…

8/13/06 was his pro debut at Millville so then he would've been running Makita graphics by then https://racerxonline.com/rider/ryan-dungey/races

So the December date from Suzuki is really was is intriguing. Maybe that's when the title for that bike was officially put in the Dungey's name, way after Loretta's/August though? Or the bike was just ordered to fill an amateur allotment, maybe just to be used for a personal bike back at home in MN, or just to sell?
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7/5/2021 9:39pm
Does the bike even exist?

Pics = proof
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Where's the seller? He's pretty quiet. Hey guy, everyone is waiting for pictures.
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7/5/2021 10:33pm Edited Date/Time 7/5/2021 10:35pm
djd wrote:
To me the purchase date being in December might mean it was just ordered to fill up an allotment of bikes from his amateur contract. The...
To me the purchase date being in December might mean it was just ordered to fill up an allotment of bikes from his amateur contract.
The Makita graphics could've been slapped on the bike by anyone after the fact in the last 14 years too

Diving into this is actually interesting to me haha, Ryan's last amateur race was at Millville on 5/29/06
https://results.americanmotorcyclist.com/riders/20537-ryan-dungey/resul…

8/13/06 was his pro debut at Millville so then he would've been running Makita graphics by then https://racerxonline.com/rider/ryan-dungey/races

So the December date from Suzuki is really was is intriguing. Maybe that's when the title for that bike was officially put in the Dungey's name, way after Loretta's/August though? Or the bike was just ordered to fill an amateur allotment, maybe just to be used for a personal bike back at home in MN, or just to sell?
Actually Ryan’s last amateur race was at Mammoth.
He came to race the Intermediate class and Lori told him there was too many complaints and he’d have to race the Pro class. We were parked together with Suzuki. Cole Gress had to call Decoster to ask what to do.
He ended up racing pro and battled with McGrath in the 450 class and came from mid pack in 250’s to catch up to Josh Hill, but couldn’t get it done. This was in late June.

He was on a ‘07 in Millville. We got our ‘07’s shortly after mammoth was over.

The ‘06 amateur bikes were given to riders in July of ‘05.

We will see what the pics reveal. If the axle blocks say “Dunjy” on them, all bets are off. Lol
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Just go, dude.
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Actually Ryan’s last amateur race was at Mammoth. He came to race the Intermediate class and Lori told him there was too many complaints and he’d...
Actually Ryan’s last amateur race was at Mammoth.
He came to race the Intermediate class and Lori told him there was too many complaints and he’d have to race the Pro class. We were parked together with Suzuki. Cole Gress had to call Decoster to ask what to do.
He ended up racing pro and battled with McGrath in the 450 class and came from mid pack in 250’s to catch up to Josh Hill, but couldn’t get it done. This was in late June.

He was on a ‘07 in Millville. We got our ‘07’s shortly after mammoth was over.

The ‘06 amateur bikes were given to riders in July of ‘05.

We will see what the pics reveal. If the axle blocks say “Dunjy” on them, all bets are off. Lol
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7/5/2021 11:17pm
Actually Ryan’s last amateur race was at Mammoth. He came to race the Intermediate class and Lori told him there was too many complaints and he’d...
Actually Ryan’s last amateur race was at Mammoth.
He came to race the Intermediate class and Lori told him there was too many complaints and he’d have to race the Pro class. We were parked together with Suzuki. Cole Gress had to call Decoster to ask what to do.
He ended up racing pro and battled with McGrath in the 450 class and came from mid pack in 250’s to catch up to Josh Hill, but couldn’t get it done. This was in late June.

He was on a ‘07 in Millville. We got our ‘07’s shortly after mammoth was over.

The ‘06 amateur bikes were given to riders in July of ‘05.

We will see what the pics reveal. If the axle blocks say “Dunjy” on them, all bets are off. Lol
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Interesting! Found a few photos of Ryan and that class from Guy B in this album- https://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/Mammoth-06,7/Ryan-Dungey,21/GuyB,64 Looks like he was still riding the 06 for...
That is definitely the ‘06.
Interesting… The ‘07 was an all new bike, so I guess they didn’t have it sorted out for Millville. I stand corrected and those are definitely Makita graphics. Lol 🤦🏻‍♂️

Still a bunch of weird about this post, but maybe the OP wasn’t trying to scam anyone after all. If so, I’m glad to apologize, but if so, I got a few questions to ask. Ha
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Just go, dude. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/05/500752/s1200_863B7DE6_B637_4265_A692_EA7542D143C4.jpg[/img]
Just go, dude.
That was part of the problem. So many scams in the past with new members selling or messaging people that were looking for bikes/parts with scam messages.
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That is definitely the ‘06. Interesting… The ‘07 was an all new bike, so I guess they didn’t have it sorted out for Millville. I stand...
That is definitely the ‘06.
Interesting… The ‘07 was an all new bike, so I guess they didn’t have it sorted out for Millville. I stand corrected and those are definitely Makita graphics. Lol 🤦🏻‍♂️

Still a bunch of weird about this post, but maybe the OP wasn’t trying to scam anyone after all. If so, I’m glad to apologize, but if so, I got a few questions to ask. Ha
Yeah the only reason why I really started researching/commenting on this is just because the original poster is clearly a newbie about moto and isn't as into the sport as many of us on this forum are, he even says it himself and people just started jumping on him lol.

I can't see how he would be trying to scam anyone right now anyway. He said he'd be interested in feelers/insight on everything and that he would upload some pictures this week, not anything was up for sale right now. If his post was just straight up claiming he had a Makita Suzuki race bike that was up in some Canadian storage unit, with no pictures and that he wanted thousands for it through Western Union or an online payment, yeah that would be a scam. Right now he just sounds like someone who isn't that well versed in our world and isn't completely certain with what he might have on his hands.

I hope someone wouldn't be dumb enough to blindly send someone money for something over the internet (especially something as costly as a motorcycle) without even seeing photos, having extensive conversations with the seller, validating information, etc first.

His story really doesn't seem that too far out of reach and so far he did post screenshots emailing Suzuki, only thing a little odd about things it is that December date but it doesn't rule everything out. I can very well see this bike as being a personal or practice bike of of the Dungey's, obtained through an amateur contract that just made its way north over the years. The Makita graphics on the bike could've even just be bought/put on the bike by another owner, could be extra graphics they had sitting around the shop, or could even just be used plastics from another bike of Ryan's bolted up to that bike to sell.
The bike isn't going to be a pro race or practice bike from Makita Suzuki because in most instances factory bikes don't have vins on them, and go back to the OEM to get discarded once they time out. Amateur bikes are different stories and are titled to that rider/sold afterwards unless you're talking about some of the elite amateur race team bikes that are still owned/maintained by the teams that transport them to/from the races.
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I never posted this photo
Fair enough, but you described it as such… Please post some pics when you get a chance and if it’s remotely possible that it’s Ryan’s bike...
Fair enough, but you described it as such…

Please post some pics when you get a chance and if it’s remotely possible that it’s Ryan’s bike, I’ll gladly help you verify it.
I know I come off being a dick, but if you knew how many people (just on this forum) that have been burned/ ripped off, you’d understand.

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Here are the photos. I am almost positive the numbers have been changed. So I do not know how much the other graphics have been changed. You are all far more knowledgeable with this than I am. All I know is yesterday when Suzuki Motors sent me the previous owner information, it has Ryans name and address on there. I would have thought Ryan wouldnt be buying a bike if he was a kid... perhaps a coach/team or his parents name would show up. So to see his name on there was shocking to me. I have had this bike in a storage shed for three years. I was riding it before that, it runs great. My brother is a mechanic and could not get the racin g teams to give him the valve specs so he had a hell of a time adjusting them, but they are good now. Last year I let a friend who was bored in town to go trail riding with it, he was also a very good mechanic and he changed the oil and did all the other minor ongoing mtce to the bike last year.

4 years ago I tried to sell the bike for cheap, because I live in a very remote Canadian town I didnt have anyone interested. The town I live in is in Northern Canada.... These photos were taken a couple years ago at my in laws in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada.

I know some of you were saying the story doesnt make sense... well all I have is the facts that I know.
The guy I bought it off was a friend of mine who went somewhere in the states to pick up this bike, I can ask him if he remebers but that was years ago. He could hardly ride a dirt bike and this bike scared him, he was more of a show boat with his new cool bike that he couldnt ride than anything. So I bought the bike because back then I broke enough bones on my race quad and I used to ride bikes as a kid. I bought the bike with the idea that Im older with a career that I cannot afford to have a broken leg or arm every year so I have always riden like a wimp...
Now I run two busiessness along with a full time career with young kids and dont have time to ride at all, plus im told by my wife that I can not take my daughter under two years old on the bike with me... which is fair lol.

Anyways, here are the photos... and remeber the graphics may or may have not been changed. I have no idea. Also, If you think im a scam or trying to rip someone off, well then dont buy it. If someone were interested I will give them the S/N and they can contact Suzuki motors themselves to know im not full of shit.
Also, last night I got another email from Suzuki Canada. Below is the email messages so feel free to try and make this story make sense...

Me to Suzuki Canada;
Hello,

I contacted the united states customer service looking for previous records on the serial number I own. They have advised me that this unit is not in their records and for me to contact the canadian department since they cannot access the canadian database.

Could you find the attached document for the letter I sent to the united states department and see if this serial number shows up in your database for previous owners?

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Customer Service
Mon, Jul 5, 9:52 AM (23 hours ago)
to me

Hello,

This bike was registered in the US and originally owned by a rider for the SMAI MX team.
__________________________________________________________________________

Me to Suzuki Canada;
Jul 5, 2021, 10:18 AM (22 hours ago)
to Customer

Thank you
Do you have any other information on this bike or the previous owner?
Ryan Dungey is a world famous rider, this bike could be worth alot of money.
Anything you have I would greatly appreciate.
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Customer Service
Jul 5, 2021, 10:02 PM (11 hours ago)
to me

Hello,

Unfortunately, that is all we have, you may want to communicate with Suzuki Motor company in the US, as this bike was registered in the US.



Regards,
________________________________________________________
me to Suzuki US

to MotorcycleCR

Hello
I contacted the Canadian Suzuki motors and they have informed me that Ryan Dungey did in fact purchase this bike in 2006.
I would love to get some more information on this unit.
The Canadian department told me to contact the amarican department since the bike was registered in the United States. Can you send me any information on this?
Also, can you point me in any direction that would help back up that Ryan Dungey bought and owned this bike?

Please read the email chain below for more information.
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To your original question

The market will be very narrow for this particular bike ( Serious Dungey Fan)

Pre Brovid pricing $500- $800
Current market $1500-1800

Dungey fan pricing $2500-$3000 ?

Please don’t take these prices as an insult , I’m only responding as someone that buys/sells and rehabs countless motorcycles....

If you don’t have a title or MSO reflecting prior Dungey ownership then Dungey fan pricing is going to be very hard to capture .
Only trying to give you real world market conditions ...

If my post is offensive to you I’ll be happy to delete it.
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That is definitely the ‘06. Interesting… The ‘07 was an all new bike, so I guess they didn’t have it sorted out for Millville. I stand...
That is definitely the ‘06.
Interesting… The ‘07 was an all new bike, so I guess they didn’t have it sorted out for Millville. I stand corrected and those are definitely Makita graphics. Lol 🤦🏻‍♂️

Still a bunch of weird about this post, but maybe the OP wasn’t trying to scam anyone after all. If so, I’m glad to apologize, but if so, I got a few questions to ask. Ha
djd wrote:
Yeah the only reason why I really started researching/commenting on this is just because the original poster is clearly a newbie about moto and isn't as...
Yeah the only reason why I really started researching/commenting on this is just because the original poster is clearly a newbie about moto and isn't as into the sport as many of us on this forum are, he even says it himself and people just started jumping on him lol.

I can't see how he would be trying to scam anyone right now anyway. He said he'd be interested in feelers/insight on everything and that he would upload some pictures this week, not anything was up for sale right now. If his post was just straight up claiming he had a Makita Suzuki race bike that was up in some Canadian storage unit, with no pictures and that he wanted thousands for it through Western Union or an online payment, yeah that would be a scam. Right now he just sounds like someone who isn't that well versed in our world and isn't completely certain with what he might have on his hands.

I hope someone wouldn't be dumb enough to blindly send someone money for something over the internet (especially something as costly as a motorcycle) without even seeing photos, having extensive conversations with the seller, validating information, etc first.

His story really doesn't seem that too far out of reach and so far he did post screenshots emailing Suzuki, only thing a little odd about things it is that December date but it doesn't rule everything out. I can very well see this bike as being a personal or practice bike of of the Dungey's, obtained through an amateur contract that just made its way north over the years. The Makita graphics on the bike could've even just be bought/put on the bike by another owner, could be extra graphics they had sitting around the shop, or could even just be used plastics from another bike of Ryan's bolted up to that bike to sell.
The bike isn't going to be a pro race or practice bike from Makita Suzuki because in most instances factory bikes don't have vins on them, and go back to the OEM to get discarded once they time out. Amateur bikes are different stories and are titled to that rider/sold afterwards unless you're talking about some of the elite amateur race team bikes that are still owned/maintained by the teams that transport them to/from the races.
Thank you, Yes I will admit I am not in the loop with this group and I am just looking for guidance. I dont even know where I can sell a bike like this. I did however post the photos that were requested. And I would never expect payment from anyone without the buyer looking into all the proof themselves.
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walent215 wrote:
To your original question The market will be very narrow for this particular bike ( Serious Dungey Fan) Pre Brovid pricing $500- $800 Current market $1500-1800...
To your original question

The market will be very narrow for this particular bike ( Serious Dungey Fan)

Pre Brovid pricing $500- $800
Current market $1500-1800

Dungey fan pricing $2500-$3000 ?

Please don’t take these prices as an insult , I’m only responding as someone that buys/sells and rehabs countless motorcycles....

If you don’t have a title or MSO reflecting prior Dungey ownership then Dungey fan pricing is going to be very hard to capture .
Only trying to give you real world market conditions ...

If my post is offensive to you I’ll be happy to delete it.
When you say I need title or MSO reflecting Dungeys ownership... what exactly is that?
I have from Suzuki Canada the proof that Dungey bought this S/N on this bike. Is that not enough proof? If not, where and how do I attain more proof?
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Bro, best case scenario you have a bike Dungey beat to shit 15 years ago, and whoever got it from there put it 6 feet under. That thing is fucked.

Brand new those bikes were pieces of shit, and that bike has no special parts on it whatsoever. Your “proof” is questionable at best, to top it all off.

You are not going to get any extra money because there might have been some Dungey skid marks on it a couple decades ago.
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7/6/2021 10:34am Edited Date/Time 7/6/2021 10:37am
Funny story about this bike....

About 20 years ago, a couple buddies and I went up to Winnipeg and visited a classy establishment named "Teasers." One of the locals that was performing that night decided to take my Jordan hat off my head and wore it while she finished her routine. After her shift was over, I attempted to get my hat back and she kindly (and incorrectly) told the bouncers I had tried to touch her "valves." They promptly tossed me right out of the club - hatless.

Ok, this has nothing to do with Dunjy's bike or this thread, but I can't ever see anything about Winnipeg without thinking about some bastard kid running around up there with my Jordan hat on. Laughing

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walent215 wrote:
To your original question The market will be very narrow for this particular bike ( Serious Dungey Fan) Pre Brovid pricing $500- $800 Current market $1500-1800...
To your original question

The market will be very narrow for this particular bike ( Serious Dungey Fan)

Pre Brovid pricing $500- $800
Current market $1500-1800

Dungey fan pricing $2500-$3000 ?

Please don’t take these prices as an insult , I’m only responding as someone that buys/sells and rehabs countless motorcycles....

If you don’t have a title or MSO reflecting prior Dungey ownership then Dungey fan pricing is going to be very hard to capture .
Only trying to give you real world market conditions ...

If my post is offensive to you I’ll be happy to delete it.
I would agree with the pricing from Walent215 unless you found a picture of the exact bike and were able to restore it with almost all the original parts but that would be a big gamble. You are probably better off first changing that countersprocket seal then give it a good cleaning and maybe try to have the original graphics reproduced custom then slap new plastics on it with the correct graphics and sell it without investing more than that. The paperwork he got from Suzuki looks identical to what they gave me on my Suzuki , once a few years pass this is all they provide you. It shows Ryan Dungey was the owner and his address and you can verify it from Suzuki so in my opinion nothing else is needed to prove it was Dungeys bike lol.
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I was just sent this from the united states Suzuki motors. They have appologized and said this is Ryan Dungeys bike.
So Im confused if its an amarican bike or canadian bike.
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i really hate to say this, but i assume with this cycles condition its worth about 1k, this thing is rotting hard, i dont care even if roger decoster rode it himself. this thing is in terrible condition!
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Cool bike! Paging DV12... This would be a cool project if it was anything other than a first gen RMZ. At least it was Dungey's 250f, and not someone like Barcia..lol tick tick tick tick BOOOM
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crowe660 wrote:
Cool bike! Paging DV12... This would be a cool project if it was anything other than a first gen RMZ. At least it was Dungey's 250f...
Cool bike! Paging DV12... This would be a cool project if it was anything other than a first gen RMZ. At least it was Dungey's 250f, and not someone like Barcia..lol tick tick tick tick BOOOM
I was listening to a podcast recently and I forget the Pros name but he said he went through at least 50 of these engines in the first season. He said literally every other day there were replacing one of the team members at pro circuit, of course it was a kxf but same bike as Zook till 07. I had an 04 and had all types of issues but mainly had to do with the soft materials they used in the seats and the shitty oiling method of the cams.
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The bike still runs, Im not a mechanic but I would assume you guys can tell by looking at the photos that its no where near a bike to be riden hard. Ive seen alot of guys have cool bikes with a story up on a shelf in a garage or bar. Thats more of what I had in mind, not someone buying it to ride hard.
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crowe660 wrote:
Cool bike! Paging DV12... This would be a cool project if it was anything other than a first gen RMZ. At least it was Dungey's 250f...
Cool bike! Paging DV12... This would be a cool project if it was anything other than a first gen RMZ. At least it was Dungey's 250f, and not someone like Barcia..lol tick tick tick tick BOOOM
DuroTools wrote:
I was listening to a podcast recently and I forget the Pros name but he said he went through at least 50 of these engines in...
I was listening to a podcast recently and I forget the Pros name but he said he went through at least 50 of these engines in the first season. He said literally every other day there were replacing one of the team members at pro circuit, of course it was a kxf but same bike as Zook till 07. I had an 04 and had all types of issues but mainly had to do with the soft materials they used in the seats and the shitty oiling method of the cams.
Millsaps talked about that last night on Pulp too.. I can't remember exactly what he said, but it sounded like he went through a good amount weekly or something hahaha. I just can't imagine being one of the mechanics at the facctory responsible for getting these rebuilt and crated up and shipped to Florida or wherever these guys were riding. What a disaster lol
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The bike still runs, Im not a mechanic but I would assume you guys can tell by looking at the photos that its no where near...
The bike still runs, Im not a mechanic but I would assume you guys can tell by looking at the photos that its no where near a bike to be riden hard. Ive seen alot of guys have cool bikes with a story up on a shelf in a garage or bar. Thats more of what I had in mind, not someone buying it to ride hard.
If it had better parts and was more original this would be more likely possible but there isn't anything special besides those chain adjusters so it's not much of a wall hanger unfortunately.
This is a long shot and only beneficial in certain circumstances but possibly you could donate it to a non profit motorcycle museum for a high value and get a donation receipt that you could use as a tax deduction? Not sure if they have any motorcycle museums in Canada although I'd assume so but I'm also not sure if the Taxes work the same as in the US and you'd also have to get at least 3 to 4 times the donation amount than the sale amount for it to be worth doing that but it may be worth looking into it. I'm not an accountant so I may be missing something but I believe that is possible, if I'm all wrong about this please Mr accountant explain my flawed logic so I understand.

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