AMA and FIM

Beeby wrote:

Yeah, you've not read what I said. And you are right, the two Canadian rounds don't make it a world series. Its not a world series...

Yeah, you've not read what I said. And you are right, the two Canadian rounds don't make it a world series. Its not a world series really, calling it one is a farce with or without the FIM.

Someone somewhere in the US wanted to call it the world championship, to do that it has to be affiliated to the governing body, not make the most money, not have the most fans or the biggest sponsors or the most scantily clad people trackside. You affiliate to the rules of the governing body and you follow their rules if you want to call yourself a world champs, which includes not allowing drugs cheats.

rp031x wrote:

Who oversees the FIM? We here about these organizations being corrupt constantly. Why should we trust them over anyone else especially after some of the decisions...

Who oversees the FIM? We here about these organizations being corrupt constantly. Why should we trust them over anyone else especially after some of the decisions they have or have not made in recent years? Again it makes no sense. I don't really get your argument. You defend the FIM and say we did it to becvome a 'world championship'. Then you go on to say that it doesn't make us a world championship anyways. So then you agree with me. The FIM should have never had anything to do with our series. Who did it benefit to make us part of the FIM? We sure don't as fans and the riders don't either.

Beeby wrote:

I have at no point defended the FIM. The original question was 'Why is the FIM involved', the answer to that (which I put) is because...

I have at no point defended the FIM. The original question was 'Why is the FIM involved', the answer to that (which I put) is because America wants to call it a world championship and in order to do so they have to be affiliated to the FIM.

My point on it not being a world championship is a personal one, not a rule. I think the requirement to be a world championship is to be with the FIM, I do not think the supercross being with the FIM makes it because I don't think it is a world competition. Nothing to do with the FIM.

Beeby wrote:

That just isn't how it works, but ok.

SeaClassExpert wrote:

No, in the big boy sports that's exactly how this shit works. The Boston Red Sox are world champions just like the Warriors were last year...

No, in the big boy sports that's exactly how this shit works. The Boston Red Sox are world champions just like the Warriors were last year.

The day that another federation creates a league that rivals AAA baseball or the G-League is the day that claim becomes contentious. But that hasn't happened just like it hasn't happened for supercross.

GrapeApe wrote:

Y'all have spent 2 pages arguing semantics that really don't have anything to do with why the FIM is involved in supercross. The FIM added a...

Y'all have spent 2 pages arguing semantics that really don't have anything to do with why the FIM is involved in supercross. The FIM added a stability and legitimacy at a time when supercross was about to split into 2 competing series. That would have substantially harmed the sport. It had nothing to do with "world championship" vs. "national championship".

motogrady wrote:

Hey, I think u guys are missing it. We should embrace the leadership only those at the FIM offer. I mean, who are we to forge...

Hey, I think u guys are missing it. We should embrace the leadership only those at the FIM offer.
I mean, who are we to forge our own way, do our own thing? Surely those across the pond are wiser, with much more experience and clout.

I say whenever we are graced with any FIM official that chooses to attend one of our lowly events, they should be treated as the special ones they are.

The heck with opening ceremonies, just bring the FIM officials in right before practice. Under spotlights. Like the pic below, as it should be.

Brad460 wrote:

Agree with the OP, particularly the robbing of the last couple years of JS7 and now Tickle. In my experience with anything “ Europe” your going...

Agree with the OP, particularly the robbing of the last couple years of JS7 and now Tickle.

In my experience with anything “ Europe” your going to have inefficiency and piss poor complicated processes- never going to be good for an American race series..

Brett_Clark wrote:

Weege and Davey coombs did a whole exhaust podcast on this. It's a very good story. Go check it out on racer x and it will...

Weege and Davey coombs did a whole exhaust podcast on this. It's a very good story. Go check it out on racer x and it will explain all of it for you

rp031x wrote:

Thanks. I have a feeling Davey Coombs is an FIM fanboy. But I really don't know so I guess I shouldn't judge.

DC wrote:

Sorry, that could not be further from the truth.

DC
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