Any word on the 2019 Suzuki RMZ 450?

Underground wrote:

Oh boy ......

Underground wrote:

Oh boy ......

Gillboy67 wrote:

not sure I follow??

New to -4S-Joe wrote:

ML- How does Suzuki confuse you? Their direction that they’ve gone with their motorcycle? In your dealings with Suzuki are they different then the other manufacturers...

ML- How does Suzuki confuse you? Their direction that they’ve gone with their motorcycle? In your dealings with Suzuki are they different then the other manufacturers to work with?
Suzuki dropping out of two racing series is a bummer and if they just come out with BNG on a bike that needs some refining that would be disappointing to say the least.

ML512 wrote:

Their direction, or lack there of...the turn over in employees...

Subotai wrote:

What's funny to me about your impression of Suzuki, is they were seriously thinking about bringing back a 2 stroke recently. But, yet, they won't give...

What's funny to me about your impression of Suzuki, is they were seriously thinking about bringing back a 2 stroke recently. But, yet, they won't give more attention to their 4 strokes. Indeed, they are confusing.

Did you hear why they moth balled the 2 stroke idea?

malachi177 wrote:

Suzuki is fresh out of bankruptcy...thats what. You’re blowing smoke. Suzuki is a billion dollar company?

malachi177 wrote:

Suzuki is fresh out of bankruptcy...thats what. You’re blowing smoke. Suzuki is a billion dollar company?

Gillboy67 wrote:

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in...

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in BK all expenditures must be approved by the court. Chapter 11 is a reorganization and can take yrs to complete. So yes fresh out of Bankruptcy.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/05/american-suzuki-files-for-bankrup…

malachi177 wrote:

Suzuki is fresh out of bankruptcy...thats what. You’re blowing smoke. Suzuki is a billion dollar company?

Gillboy67 wrote:

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in...

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in BK all expenditures must be approved by the court. Chapter 11 is a reorganization and can take yrs to complete. So yes fresh out of Bankruptcy.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/05/american-suzuki-files-for-bankrup…

malachi177 wrote:

Suzuki is fresh out of bankruptcy...thats what. You’re blowing smoke. Suzuki is a billion dollar company?

Gillboy67 wrote:

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in...

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in BK all expenditures must be approved by the court. Chapter 11 is a reorganization and can take yrs to complete. So yes fresh out of Bankruptcy.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/05/american-suzuki-files-for-bankrup…

malachi177 wrote:

I know very well what happened. This isn't my first rodeo either. People take shit out of context all the time about Suzuki finances on this...

I know very well what happened. This isn't my first rodeo either. People take shit out of context all the time about Suzuki finances on this forum. It's called reading comprehension. Suzuki closed it's automotive branch down in North America because it was losing money. Instead they restructured to focus on their motorcycles, quads, and marine divisions in NORTH AMERICA. The automotive industry in North America is massive and there's a ton of competition. They couldn't get enough of a market share so they let the weakest link go. That has NOTHING to do with how Suzuki Japan is doing worldwide financially. Understand? Suzuki Japan. Suzuki is a Japanese company.

...you realize there is a world outside the continental USA right?

Gillboy67 wrote:

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in...

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in BK all expenditures must be approved by the court. Chapter 11 is a reorganization and can take yrs to complete. So yes fresh out of Bankruptcy.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/05/american-suzuki-files-for-bankrup…

malachi177 wrote:

I know very well what happened. This isn't my first rodeo either. People take shit out of context all the time about Suzuki finances on this...

I know very well what happened. This isn't my first rodeo either. People take shit out of context all the time about Suzuki finances on this forum. It's called reading comprehension. Suzuki closed it's automotive branch down in North America because it was losing money. Instead they restructured to focus on their motorcycles, quads, and marine divisions in NORTH AMERICA. The automotive industry in North America is massive and there's a ton of competition. They couldn't get enough of a market share so they let the weakest link go. That has NOTHING to do with how Suzuki Japan is doing worldwide financially. Understand? Suzuki Japan. Suzuki is a Japanese company.

...you realize there is a world outside the continental USA right?

Construction wrote:

The best part is the day it was announced the American importer which is what American Suzuki was, was getting out of cars their stocks jumped...

The best part is the day it was announced the American importer which is what American Suzuki was, was getting out of cars their stocks jumped that day.

malachi177 wrote:

Suzuki is fresh out of bankruptcy...thats what. You’re blowing smoke. Suzuki is a billion dollar company?

Gillboy67 wrote:

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in...

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in BK all expenditures must be approved by the court. Chapter 11 is a reorganization and can take yrs to complete. So yes fresh out of Bankruptcy.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/05/american-suzuki-files-for-bankrup…

Construction wrote:

You should do research and learn what American suzuki is and how they’re not Suzuki motors. Suzuki makes more every year than kawie Yamaha and Ktm...

You should do research and learn what American suzuki is and how they’re not Suzuki motors. Suzuki makes more every year than kawie Yamaha and Ktm combined so yes you’re a idiot. Since they’re all publicly traded all financials are real easy to find

Gillboy67 wrote:

I payed 6980.00 otd for my 18 zook and have about 10.5 k in it total has lots of cool bolt on bits Enzo suspension FMF...

I payed 6980.00 otd for my 18 zook and have about 10.5 k in it total has lots of cool bolt on bits Enzo suspension FMF Hinson Dubya wheels lots of Ti lost 8 lbs and picked up 5HP threw Proven MX mods Bottom line I have a great bike for a vet rider set up for me. Still for less than a stock KTM. I have riden the 18 KTM and yes awsom bike with a E start but still doesnt turn like a zook and I woul still have to spend a couple K do get it set up for me. JS

malachi177 wrote:

I know very well what happened. This isn't my first rodeo either. People take shit out of context all the time about Suzuki finances on this...

I know very well what happened. This isn't my first rodeo either. People take shit out of context all the time about Suzuki finances on this forum. It's called reading comprehension. Suzuki closed it's automotive branch down in North America because it was losing money. Instead they restructured to focus on their motorcycles, quads, and marine divisions in NORTH AMERICA. The automotive industry in North America is massive and there's a ton of competition. They couldn't get enough of a market share so they let the weakest link go. That has NOTHING to do with how Suzuki Japan is doing worldwide financially. Understand? Suzuki Japan. Suzuki is a Japanese company.

...you realize there is a world outside the continental USA right?

Construction wrote:

The best part is the day it was announced the American importer which is what American Suzuki was, was getting out of cars their stocks jumped...

The best part is the day it was announced the American importer which is what American Suzuki was, was getting out of cars their stocks jumped that day.

Gillboy67 wrote:

Look Im a big zook fan I have no reason to BS anyone. Im also a Business owner for over 20 yrs and have had my...

Look Im a big zook fan I have no reason to BS anyone. Im also a Business owner for over 20 yrs and have had my share of problems. Im also somewhat educated .So I researched this a great deal back when they filed as I was wondering if they where going to be around! So read and learn. American Suzuki IS part of and owned by Suzuki motor corp. That is Suzuki japan for those of you that do not know. To say that American suzuki has nothing to do with Suzuki of Japan is ludacris. Diff countries have diff finance laws soooo they have diff divisions in diff countries. Yes the car div of zook was killing it in addition to a bad economy in the US. Bottom line is because of the car div AND the bad economy (Bike sales took a big tumble) they where in deep shit and had to file BK chap 11 which is reorganization. while in BK ALL expenditures must be approved by the court! That doesnt mean they are broke just means they had issues and needed time to work them out. So let me spell it out for you.
Lets say you own a biz with 2 divisions You own both divisions.... follow me? now the economy crashes. Division one hasnt been doing well and pretty much goes to complete shit and starts loosing tons of $$$ your second division because of a bad economy is struggling as well. So your loosing division is taking capitol from your struggling division and as a whole..... (Both divisions) are loosing $$$ Now you have suppliers for both co and banks (creditors) that want there money and your loosing money and this has been going on for a couple yrs and if it continues your history! So you file BK to restructure your debt and your co so you can stay in biz and move forward. This is all fact!! I have a couple of friends that have been in the MGMT levels of kawi and Yam and I talk to them on a reg basis and I have a pretty good idea what is going on in the industry as a whole .So im going to leave it here. if you are to lazy to research it yourself and wanna continue to run your mouths about something you know nothing about. Awesome!
OH BTW and yes I know there is a world out side the US. I also know the US economy is the worlds largest by a long ways and what happens here effects the rest of the world economies. FYI my college deg is'nt in the arts. JS

Gillboy67 wrote:

I payed 6980.00 otd for my 18 zook and have about 10.5 k in it total has lots of cool bolt on bits Enzo suspension FMF...

I payed 6980.00 otd for my 18 zook and have about 10.5 k in it total has lots of cool bolt on bits Enzo suspension FMF Hinson Dubya wheels lots of Ti lost 8 lbs and picked up 5HP threw Proven MX mods Bottom line I have a great bike for a vet rider set up for me. Still for less than a stock KTM. I have riden the 18 KTM and yes awsom bike with a E start but still doesnt turn like a zook and I woul still have to spend a couple K do get it set up for me. JS

Cancerman wrote:

Plus, it's Yellow! Sweet bike by the way. Love those wheels. I hate black wheels, but again, I'm old.

Lightning78 wrote:

FYI Lose ...not Loose You're ...not your in certain contexts Capital....not Capitol Losing ....not Loosing Clearly your degree wasn't in English hahaha....now don't get butthurt, just...

FYI
Lose ...not Loose
You're ...not your in certain contexts
Capital....not Capitol
Losing ....not Loosing

Clearly your degree wasn't in English hahaha....now don't get butthurt, just use spell check.

motomike894 wrote:

I love my 18 Suzuki, only thing for me its lacking some of is just little more HP everywhere, if I don't get a 19 I...

I love my 18 Suzuki, only thing for me its lacking some of is just little more HP everywhere, if I don't get a 19 I will have some motor work done this winter when I tear it down.

Cracks me up how bad people bad mouth them, when most of them are complete squids anyway, anyone around me that is on Suzuki now is happy as can be, and most of them came off of Ktm's or Yamahas.

I have 24 hours on mine and have had zero issues as well ( everyone says they're pieces of shit too ), and I go fairly fast and am a large man.

Underground wrote:

It's funny how people that actually own an RM and race it saying it's so good to ride

Underground wrote:

It's funny how people that actually own an RM and race it saying it's so good to ride

Gillboy67 wrote:

Yup the mags have beat them up for yrs. Anyone that races is not leaving the suspension stock so thats a non issue, suzukis handle great...

Yup the mags have beat them up for yrs. Anyone that races is not leaving the suspension stock so thats a non issue, suzukis handle great stock, sooo ya they are a tad heavy but again handle awesome! not the fastest 450 but you can make them faster and who other than a top pro can ride a 450 to its limit.

Gillboy67 wrote:

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in...

Better do a lil research my friend before you pop off and look stupid. Iv been in this game along time. When a co is in BK all expenditures must be approved by the court. Chapter 11 is a reorganization and can take yrs to complete. So yes fresh out of Bankruptcy.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/05/american-suzuki-files-for-bankrup…

Construction wrote:

You should do research and learn what American suzuki is and how they’re not Suzuki motors. Suzuki makes more every year than kawie Yamaha and Ktm...

You should do research and learn what American suzuki is and how they’re not Suzuki motors. Suzuki makes more every year than kawie Yamaha and Ktm combined so yes you’re a idiot. Since they’re all publicly traded all financials are real easy to find

Gillboy67 wrote:

Thats great! Maybe you can tell me who owns controlling interest in American Suzuki AKA Suzuki motors of America???? the following is from Bloomberg and maybe...

Thats great! Maybe you can tell me who owns controlling interest in American Suzuki AKA Suzuki motors of America????
the following is from Bloomberg and maybe you can tell me exactly owns Suzuki Motors of America?????
Bloomberg:As previously announced, the Plan approved the Company's sale of its Motorcycles/ATV and Marine divisions and Automotive parts and service operation to a newly organized, wholly-owned subsidiary of Suzuki Motor Corporation. The subsidiary will operate in the continental U.S. as Suzuki Motor of America, Inc. and will use the Suzuki products brand name.
BAM!

mxb2 wrote:

Why would a local rider buy a exhaust, ignition,remap. Head work done? 450 is plenty good stock , unless ya just wanna build a trick bike...

Why would a local rider buy a exhaust, ignition,remap. Head work done? 450 is plenty good stock , unless ya just wanna build a trick bike. Imo.

mxb2 wrote:

Why would a local rider buy a exhaust, ignition,remap. Head work done? 450 is plenty good stock , unless ya just wanna build a trick bike...

Why would a local rider buy a exhaust, ignition,remap. Head work done? 450 is plenty good stock , unless ya just wanna build a trick bike. Imo.

Gillboy67 wrote:

Thats ME!!!! LMAO Built a trick mofo!! LOL Why? I enjoy building and improving things and I can afford it. I kept it reliable and ridable...

Thats ME!!!! LMAO Built a trick mofo!! LOL Why? I enjoy building and improving things and I can afford it. I kept it reliable and ridable so my old fat ass can still hang on to it.

Construction wrote:

The best part you just proved what a moron you are in your own post here and do t realize it. You still have zero clue...

The best part you just proved what a moron you are in your own post here and do t realize it. You still have zero clue what American Suzuki was or who owned it. once again show us where Suzuki the company that makes motorcycles etc filed for bankruptcy and while you’re at it show us their financials for that year. If you want to take it a step further show us kawie Yamaha and ktm. I will be waiting. And if I was you would have someone read to exactly what you wrote because it’s dead on but you can’t even see it

mxb2 wrote:

Awesome man,. Any pics?

ML512 wrote:

The Suzuki RM-Z450 is the heaviest bike in the class for 2019 and the only kickstart bike...KTM designed their engine and layout around it...right now they've...

The Suzuki RM-Z450 is the heaviest bike in the class for 2019 and the only kickstart bike...KTM designed their engine and layout around it...right now they've only taken on about two pounds at most with e-start only. But they're around 15lbs lighter than the RM-Z with a full tank of fuel (and the KTM holds more fuel).

Flip109 wrote:

You pay out the ass for that 15lbs tho lol

ML512 wrote:

You’d pay way more to make that RM-Z450 15lbs lighter...which according to someone from RCH two years ago, they couldn’t get their race bikes as light...

You’d pay way more to make that RM-Z450 15lbs lighter...which according to someone from RCH two years ago, they couldn’t get their race bikes as light as a stock KTM.

Titan1 wrote:

Is the extra weight that aluminum frame?

When do the Jap mani’s start going back to steal frames?

Titan1 wrote:

Is the extra weight that aluminum frame?

When do the Jap mani’s start going back to steal frames?

ML512 wrote:

Little bit is in the frame. In Suzuki's case though...it's mostly the engine, airbox, airboot, subframe, and exhaust.

mxb2 wrote:

Awesome man,. Any pics?

Gillboy67 wrote:

Here you go my friend [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266350/s1200_IMG_0959.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266355/s1200_IMG_0960.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266352/s1200_IMG_0961.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266353/s1200_IMG_0962.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266351/s1200_IMG_0963.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266354/s1200_IMG_0964.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266356/s1200_IMG_0965.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266357/s1200_IMG_0966.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266358/s1200_IMG_0967.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266359/s1200_IMG_0968.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266360/s1200_IMG_0970.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/06/06/266361/s1200_IMG_0971.jpg[/img]

Here you go my friend

Titan1 wrote:

Is the extra weight that aluminum frame?

When do the Jap mani’s start going back to steal frames?

ML512 wrote:

Little bit is in the frame. In Suzuki's case though...it's mostly the engine, airbox, airboot, subframe, and exhaust.

Titan1 wrote:

I’m assuming RCH could fix the, air box, air boot, sub frame and exhaust...so is it the motor and frame that kept them from getting to...

I’m assuming RCH could fix the, air box, air boot, sub frame and exhaust...so is it the motor and frame that kept them from getting to the KTM stock weight?