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Try this guy-Joe Cassano- head of AIG's financial products division. This is from Rolling Stone


"That guy — the Patient Zero of the global economic meltdown — was one Joseph Cassano, the head of a tiny, 400-person unit within the company called AIG Financial Products, or AIGFP. Cassano, a pudgy, balding Brooklyn College grad with beady eyes and way too much forehead, cut his teeth in the Eighties working for Mike Milken, the granddaddy of modern Wall Street debt alchemists. Milken, who pioneered the creative use of junk bonds, relied on messianic genius and a whole array of insider schemes to evade detection while wreaking financial disaster. Cassano, by contrast, was just a greedy little turd with a knack for selective accounting who ran his scam right out in the open, thanks to Washington's deregulation of the Wall Street casino. "It's all about the regulatory environment," says a government source involved with the AIG bailout. "These guys look for holes in the system, for ways they can do trades without government interference. Whatever is unregulated, all the action is going to pile into that."

The mess Cassano created had its roots in an investment boom fueled in part by a relatively new type of financial instrument called a collateralized-debt obligation. A CDO is like a box full of diced-up assets. They can be anything: mortgages, corporate loans, aircraft loans, credit-card loans, even other CDOs. So as X mortgage holder pays his bill, and Y corporate debtor pays his bill, and Z credit-card debtor pays his bill, money flows into the box.
The key idea behind a CDO is that there will always be at least some money in the box, regardless of how dicey the individual assets inside it are. No matter how you look at a single unemployed ex-con trying to pay the note on a six-bedroom house, he looks like a bad investment. But dump his loan in a box with a smorgasbord of auto loans, credit-card debt, corporate bonds and other crap, and you can be reasonably sure that somebody is going to pay up. Say $100 is supposed to come into the box every month. Even in an apocalypse, when $90 in payments might default, you'll still get $10. What the inventors of the CDO did is divide up the box into groups of investors and put that $10 into its own level, or "tranche." They then convinced ratings agencies like Moody's and S&P to give that top tranche the highest AAA rating — meaning it has close to zero credit risk.
Suddenly, thanks to this financial seal of approval, banks had a way to turn their shittiest mortgages and other financial waste into investment-grade paper and sell them to institutional investors like pensions and insurance companies, which were forced by regulators to keep their portfolios as safe as possible. Because CDOs offered higher rates of return than truly safe products like Treasury bills, it was a win-win: Banks made a fortune selling CDOs, and big investors made much more holding them.
The problem was, none of this was based on reality. "The banks knew they were selling crap," says a London-based trader from one of the bailed-out companies. To get AAA ratings, the CDOs relied not on their actual underlying assets but on crazy mathematical formulas that the banks cooked up to make the investments look safer than they really were. "They had some back room somewhere where a bunch of Indian guys who'd been doing nothing but math for God knows how many years would come up with some kind of model saying that this or that combination of debtors would only default once every 10,000 years," says one young trader who sold CDOs for a major investment bank. "It was nuts."
Now that even the crappiest mortgages could be sold to conservative investors, the CDOs spurred a massive explosion of irresponsible and predatory lending. In fact, there was such a crush to underwrite CDOs that it became hard to find enough subprime mortgages — read: enough unemployed meth dealers willing to buy million-dollar homes for no money down — to fill them all. As banks and investors of all kinds took on more and more in CDOs and similar instruments, they needed some way to hedge their massive bets — some kind of insurance policy, in case the housing bubble burst and all that debt went south at the same time. This was particularly true for investment banks, many of which got stuck holding or "warehousing" CDOs when they wrote more than they could sell. And that's were Joe Cassano came in.
Known for his boldness and arrogance, Cassano took over as chief of AIGFP in 2001. He was the favorite of Maurice "Hank" Greenberg, the head of AIG, who admired the younger man's hard-driving ways, even if neither he nor his successors fully understood exactly what it was that Cassano did. According to a source familiar with AIG's internal operations, Cassano basically told senior management, "You know insurance, I know investments, so you do what you do, and I'll do what I do — leave me alone." Given a free hand within the company, Cassano set out from his offices in London to sell a lucrative form of "insurance" to all those investors holding lots of CDOs. His tool of choice was another new financial instrument known as a credit-default swap, or CDS.
The CDS was popularized by J.P. Morgan, in particular by a group of young, creative bankers who would later become known as the "Morgan Mafia," as many of them would go on to assume influential positions in the finance world. In 1994, in between booze and games of tennis at a resort in Boca Raton, Florida, the Morgan gang plotted a way to help boost the bank's returns. One of their goals was to find a way to lend more money, while working around regulations that required them to keep a set amount of cash in reserve to back those loans. What they came up with was an early version of the credit-default swap.
In its simplest form, a CDS is just a bet on an outcome. Say Bank A writes a million-dollar mortgage to the Pope for a town house in the West Village. Bank A wants to hedge its mortgage risk in case the Pope can't make his monthly payments, so it buys CDS protection from Bank B, wherein it agrees to pay Bank B a premium of $1,000 a month for five years. In return, Bank B agrees to pay Bank A the full million-dollar value of the Pope's mortgage if he defaults. In theory, Bank A is covered if the Pope goes on a meth binge and loses his job.
When Morgan presented their plans for credit swaps to regulators in the late Nineties, they argued that if they bought CDS protection for enough of the investments in their portfolio, they had effectively moved the risk off their books. Therefore, they argued, they should be allowed to lend more, without keeping more cash in reserve. A whole host of regulators — from the Federal Reserve to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency — accepted the argument, and Morgan was allowed to put more money on the street.
What Cassano did was to transform the credit swaps that Morgan popularized into the world's largest bet on the housing boom. In theory, at least, there's nothing wrong with buying a CDS to insure your investments. Investors paid a premium to AIGFP, and in return the company promised to pick up the tab if the mortgage-backed CDOs went bust. But as Cassano went on a selling spree, the deals he made differed from traditional insurance in several significant ways. First, the party selling CDS protection didn't have to post any money upfront. When a $100 corporate bond is sold, for example, someone has to show 100 actual dollars. But when you sell a $100 CDS guarantee, you don't have to show a dime. So Cassano could sell investment banks billions in guarantees without having any single asset to back it up.
Secondly, Cassano was selling so-called "naked" CDS deals. In a "naked" CDS, neither party actually holds the underlying loan. In other words, Bank B not only sells CDS protection to Bank A for its mortgage on the Pope — it turns around and sells protection to Bank C for the very same mortgage. This could go on ad nauseam: You could have Banks D through Z also betting on Bank A's mortgage. Unlike traditional insurance, Cassano was offering investors an opportunity to bet that someone else's house would burn down, or take out a term life policy on the guy with AIDS down the street. It was no different from gambling, the Wall Street version of a bunch of frat brothers betting on Jay Feely to make a field goal. Cassano was taking book for every bank that bet short on the housing market, but he didn't have the cash to pay off if the kick went wide."
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That was a good read. I almost understand it now. Thanks for posting that.
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Thanks Dean.

My question is why isn't this type of shit illegal.
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jmar wrote:
Thanks Dean.

My question is why isn't this type of shit illegal.
Culprit Number 2- Phil Gramm. He pushed big for deregulation. I had heard this but didn't really know what that meant. Basically it gutted banking regulations enacted during the depression that seperated commercial banks from investment banks, and also insurance company's from any kind of banks. It's all in the link. Another act in 2000 prevented regulation of the CDS's

from Time
"As chairman of the Senate Banking Committee from 1995 through 2000, Gramm was Washington's most prominent and outspoken champion of financial deregulation. He played a leading role in writing and pushing through Congress the 1999 repeal of the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial banks from Wall Street. He also inserted a key provision into the 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act that exempted over-the-counter derivatives like credit-default swaps from regulation by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Credit-default swaps took down AIG, which has cost the U.S. $150 billion thus far."
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3/23/2009 8:03am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:03pm
to be fair- the repeal of the Glass-Steagal act passed the Senate 90 to 8 so there is plenty of blame to go around.

My point is, it's the fucking vampires on Wall street that took this and ran with it. They HAD to know this was gonna happen. This Cassano isn't some out of touch CEO. He orchestrated this whole fucking mess, and I repeat he had to know it was gonna blow up. He got his 380 mil and is holed up in London. The 166 mil in bonus's last week that got everybody so fired up- are going straight to the Financial Products Division and their 400 employees. I wonder how much of it is his?

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It's almost comical how a "house of cards" will always fall but we never see it coming. In the 80s it was junk bonds, then we had the .com bubble in the 90s that went bust in 2001, now it's the housing bubble backed by subprime loans and shady financial instruments.

In each case, everyone is trying to play the system and make a quick buck without regard for how any of it works. The old saying, "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is" never seems to phase people until the cards crash and we're left with 50% of our original wealth.

I'm positive the economy will recover (with or without Obama's $Trillion) and then we'll have a boom time, something else will cause a bubble and when it bursts we'll look back and start blaming everyone from Obama, to Bush to _____ (insert future president name here).
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DDub8 wrote:
It's almost comical how a "house of cards" will always fall but we never see it coming. In the 80s it was junk bonds, then we...
It's almost comical how a "house of cards" will always fall but we never see it coming. In the 80s it was junk bonds, then we had the .com bubble in the 90s that went bust in 2001, now it's the housing bubble backed by subprime loans and shady financial instruments.

In each case, everyone is trying to play the system and make a quick buck without regard for how any of it works. The old saying, "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is" never seems to phase people until the cards crash and we're left with 50% of our original wealth.

I'm positive the economy will recover (with or without Obama's $Trillion) and then we'll have a boom time, something else will cause a bubble and when it bursts we'll look back and start blaming everyone from Obama, to Bush to _____ (insert future president name here).
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Like Dougie said I almost get it now. What these guys, The Morgan Mafia, have that I recognize is their make money at all costs attitude. Reminds me of many people around here(Newport) , no regard for anything but themselves.
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Dean wrote:
to be fair- the repeal of the Glass-Steagal act passed the Senate 90 to 8 so there is plenty of blame to go around. My point...
to be fair- the repeal of the Glass-Steagal act passed the Senate 90 to 8 so there is plenty of blame to go around.

My point is, it's the fucking vampires on Wall street that took this and ran with it. They HAD to know this was gonna happen. This Cassano isn't some out of touch CEO. He orchestrated this whole fucking mess, and I repeat he had to know it was gonna blow up. He got his 380 mil and is holed up in London. The 166 mil in bonus's last week that got everybody so fired up- are going straight to the Financial Products Division and their 400 employees. I wonder how much of it is his?
My point is, it's the fucking vampires on Wall street that took this and ran with it

x2

And they will do it again if we don't do something about it.
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DDub8 wrote:
It's almost comical how a "house of cards" will always fall but we never see it coming. In the 80s it was junk bonds, then we...
It's almost comical how a "house of cards" will always fall but we never see it coming. In the 80s it was junk bonds, then we had the .com bubble in the 90s that went bust in 2001, now it's the housing bubble backed by subprime loans and shady financial instruments.

In each case, everyone is trying to play the system and make a quick buck without regard for how any of it works. The old saying, "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is" never seems to phase people until the cards crash and we're left with 50% of our original wealth.

I'm positive the economy will recover (with or without Obama's $Trillion) and then we'll have a boom time, something else will cause a bubble and when it bursts we'll look back and start blaming everyone from Obama, to Bush to _____ (insert future president name here).
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"
Joe Cassano: The Man Who Brought Down AIG?

Moments ago, members of the House oversight committee concluded their hammering of the two most recent AIG chief executives. Topic: Joe Cassano, the man who some credit with bringing down the insurance giant.

Cassano was president of AIG's financial products division, which trafficked in the credit-default swaps, or CDS, which we learned earlier proved so dangerous.

Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa) angrily recited the tale of Cassano's tape: He earned $280 million in cash -- more than AIG chief executives -- and for every dollar his financial products unit made, 30 cents came back to Cassano and other top execs.

After the unit lost $11 billion, Cassano was fired Feb. 29 of this year, Braley pointed out, and got to keep $34 million in bonuses and was kept on as an AIG consultant at a salary of $1 million per month.

Braley asked the witnesses, former AIG chief executives Michael Sullivan and Robert
Willumstad, if they had exercised their authority to fire Cassano from his consultant's role, given all the damage he had brought to AIG.

"No," both said.

Then oversight committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) really lit into them.

Asked why they didn't fire Cassano, Sullivan said they needed to "retain the 20-year knowledge of the transactions."

Waxman was impressed.

"When I retire I want to come work for you at $1 million a month," he said, The Post's Peter Whoriskey reports.

"What would he have had to have done for you to fire him?" Waxman asked rhetorically.

- Frank Ahrens

October 7, 2008; 2:53 PM ET | Category: business

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3/23/2009 10:39pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:04pm
Dean wrote:
Try this guy-Joe Cassano- head of AIG's financial products division. This is from Rolling Stone "That guy — the Patient Zero of the global economic meltdown...
Try this guy-Joe Cassano- head of AIG's financial products division. This is from Rolling Stone


"That guy — the Patient Zero of the global economic meltdown — was one Joseph Cassano, the head of a tiny, 400-person unit within the company called AIG Financial Products, or AIGFP. Cassano, a pudgy, balding Brooklyn College grad with beady eyes and way too much forehead, cut his teeth in the Eighties working for Mike Milken, the granddaddy of modern Wall Street debt alchemists. Milken, who pioneered the creative use of junk bonds, relied on messianic genius and a whole array of insider schemes to evade detection while wreaking financial disaster. Cassano, by contrast, was just a greedy little turd with a knack for selective accounting who ran his scam right out in the open, thanks to Washington's deregulation of the Wall Street casino. "It's all about the regulatory environment," says a government source involved with the AIG bailout. "These guys look for holes in the system, for ways they can do trades without government interference. Whatever is unregulated, all the action is going to pile into that."

The mess Cassano created had its roots in an investment boom fueled in part by a relatively new type of financial instrument called a collateralized-debt obligation. A CDO is like a box full of diced-up assets. They can be anything: mortgages, corporate loans, aircraft loans, credit-card loans, even other CDOs. So as X mortgage holder pays his bill, and Y corporate debtor pays his bill, and Z credit-card debtor pays his bill, money flows into the box.
The key idea behind a CDO is that there will always be at least some money in the box, regardless of how dicey the individual assets inside it are. No matter how you look at a single unemployed ex-con trying to pay the note on a six-bedroom house, he looks like a bad investment. But dump his loan in a box with a smorgasbord of auto loans, credit-card debt, corporate bonds and other crap, and you can be reasonably sure that somebody is going to pay up. Say $100 is supposed to come into the box every month. Even in an apocalypse, when $90 in payments might default, you'll still get $10. What the inventors of the CDO did is divide up the box into groups of investors and put that $10 into its own level, or "tranche." They then convinced ratings agencies like Moody's and S&P to give that top tranche the highest AAA rating — meaning it has close to zero credit risk.
Suddenly, thanks to this financial seal of approval, banks had a way to turn their shittiest mortgages and other financial waste into investment-grade paper and sell them to institutional investors like pensions and insurance companies, which were forced by regulators to keep their portfolios as safe as possible. Because CDOs offered higher rates of return than truly safe products like Treasury bills, it was a win-win: Banks made a fortune selling CDOs, and big investors made much more holding them.
The problem was, none of this was based on reality. "The banks knew they were selling crap," says a London-based trader from one of the bailed-out companies. To get AAA ratings, the CDOs relied not on their actual underlying assets but on crazy mathematical formulas that the banks cooked up to make the investments look safer than they really were. "They had some back room somewhere where a bunch of Indian guys who'd been doing nothing but math for God knows how many years would come up with some kind of model saying that this or that combination of debtors would only default once every 10,000 years," says one young trader who sold CDOs for a major investment bank. "It was nuts."
Now that even the crappiest mortgages could be sold to conservative investors, the CDOs spurred a massive explosion of irresponsible and predatory lending. In fact, there was such a crush to underwrite CDOs that it became hard to find enough subprime mortgages — read: enough unemployed meth dealers willing to buy million-dollar homes for no money down — to fill them all. As banks and investors of all kinds took on more and more in CDOs and similar instruments, they needed some way to hedge their massive bets — some kind of insurance policy, in case the housing bubble burst and all that debt went south at the same time. This was particularly true for investment banks, many of which got stuck holding or "warehousing" CDOs when they wrote more than they could sell. And that's were Joe Cassano came in.
Known for his boldness and arrogance, Cassano took over as chief of AIGFP in 2001. He was the favorite of Maurice "Hank" Greenberg, the head of AIG, who admired the younger man's hard-driving ways, even if neither he nor his successors fully understood exactly what it was that Cassano did. According to a source familiar with AIG's internal operations, Cassano basically told senior management, "You know insurance, I know investments, so you do what you do, and I'll do what I do — leave me alone." Given a free hand within the company, Cassano set out from his offices in London to sell a lucrative form of "insurance" to all those investors holding lots of CDOs. His tool of choice was another new financial instrument known as a credit-default swap, or CDS.
The CDS was popularized by J.P. Morgan, in particular by a group of young, creative bankers who would later become known as the "Morgan Mafia," as many of them would go on to assume influential positions in the finance world. In 1994, in between booze and games of tennis at a resort in Boca Raton, Florida, the Morgan gang plotted a way to help boost the bank's returns. One of their goals was to find a way to lend more money, while working around regulations that required them to keep a set amount of cash in reserve to back those loans. What they came up with was an early version of the credit-default swap.
In its simplest form, a CDS is just a bet on an outcome. Say Bank A writes a million-dollar mortgage to the Pope for a town house in the West Village. Bank A wants to hedge its mortgage risk in case the Pope can't make his monthly payments, so it buys CDS protection from Bank B, wherein it agrees to pay Bank B a premium of $1,000 a month for five years. In return, Bank B agrees to pay Bank A the full million-dollar value of the Pope's mortgage if he defaults. In theory, Bank A is covered if the Pope goes on a meth binge and loses his job.
When Morgan presented their plans for credit swaps to regulators in the late Nineties, they argued that if they bought CDS protection for enough of the investments in their portfolio, they had effectively moved the risk off their books. Therefore, they argued, they should be allowed to lend more, without keeping more cash in reserve. A whole host of regulators — from the Federal Reserve to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency — accepted the argument, and Morgan was allowed to put more money on the street.
What Cassano did was to transform the credit swaps that Morgan popularized into the world's largest bet on the housing boom. In theory, at least, there's nothing wrong with buying a CDS to insure your investments. Investors paid a premium to AIGFP, and in return the company promised to pick up the tab if the mortgage-backed CDOs went bust. But as Cassano went on a selling spree, the deals he made differed from traditional insurance in several significant ways. First, the party selling CDS protection didn't have to post any money upfront. When a $100 corporate bond is sold, for example, someone has to show 100 actual dollars. But when you sell a $100 CDS guarantee, you don't have to show a dime. So Cassano could sell investment banks billions in guarantees without having any single asset to back it up.
Secondly, Cassano was selling so-called "naked" CDS deals. In a "naked" CDS, neither party actually holds the underlying loan. In other words, Bank B not only sells CDS protection to Bank A for its mortgage on the Pope — it turns around and sells protection to Bank C for the very same mortgage. This could go on ad nauseam: You could have Banks D through Z also betting on Bank A's mortgage. Unlike traditional insurance, Cassano was offering investors an opportunity to bet that someone else's house would burn down, or take out a term life policy on the guy with AIDS down the street. It was no different from gambling, the Wall Street version of a bunch of frat brothers betting on Jay Feely to make a field goal. Cassano was taking book for every bank that bet short on the housing market, but he didn't have the cash to pay off if the kick went wide."
and Bush looked the other fuckin way. believe it...sad but true.

great story...but that is america. free market and all that bullshit in things like the money market/financial shit. works great for the local lemonade stand...duh.

greed, god and fucking guns. yippee kiyah mufucker! lol... let me guess...a card carrying church going limball listening republican? wtf?
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To get AAA ratings, the CDOs relied not on their actual underlying assets but on crazy mathematical formulas that the banks cooked up to make the investments look safer than they really were. "They had some back room somewhere where a bunch of Indian guys who'd been doing nothing but math for God knows how many years would come up with some kind of model saying that this or that combination of debtors would only default once every 10,000 years,"

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DDub8 wrote:
It's almost comical how a "house of cards" will always fall but we never see it coming. In the 80s it was junk bonds, then we...
It's almost comical how a "house of cards" will always fall but we never see it coming. In the 80s it was junk bonds, then we had the .com bubble in the 90s that went bust in 2001, now it's the housing bubble backed by subprime loans and shady financial instruments.

In each case, everyone is trying to play the system and make a quick buck without regard for how any of it works. The old saying, "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is" never seems to phase people until the cards crash and we're left with 50% of our original wealth.

I'm positive the economy will recover (with or without Obama's $Trillion) and then we'll have a boom time, something else will cause a bubble and when it bursts we'll look back and start blaming everyone from Obama, to Bush to _____ (insert future president name here).
I'm positive the economy will recover (with or without Obama's $Trillion) and then we'll have a boom time, something else will cause a bubble and when it bursts we'll look back and start blaming everyone from Obama, to Bush to _____ (insert future president name here).

these bubbles are not unseen. It's trying to get a piece of it while it's hot and not get burned. Kind of what you said in your 2nd paragraph.

But, "we" don't want to constrain the free market. Unlimited growth. The truth is, our government dabbles in the free market and is partly to largely responsible for the problems. Maybe nobody is smart enough to do it...and definitely nobody wants to create a level playing field with good solid fundamental rules to prevent this crap from happening. As soon as someone steps in to call bullshit on a guy like Cassano, the government is slammed for hindering the free market.


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Good read Dean thanks.

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