how many places did jlaw gain by cutting off the 1st turn?

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Void Main 3/8/2009 9:25pm
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Dark Moto Lord wrote:
I saw the live timing at the end of the race, Reed had the fastest lap. And quite frankly I am glad that Reed won because...
I saw the live timing at the end of the race, Reed had the fastest lap. And quite frankly I am glad that Reed won because now the series in interesting. I would still bet on Stewart winning the title but he is going to have some work cut out for him now.
You can still look at the live timing:

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Void Main 3/8/2009 9:26pm
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D_rock wrote:
well sondy it just proves the guy with a temper who called is dumb effers and said it was in the heat was just a dumb...
well sondy it just proves the guy with a temper who called is dumb effers and said it was in the heat was just a dumb effer himself
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they mentioned it in Reeds heat when comparing laptimes.
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Ok, I'll go verify that right now. Smile
Yep, in Chad's heat they said Chad had the fastest lap at 1:08 and then said Stewie turned a 1:07.5 in his heat.
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D_rock 3/8/2009 9:28pm
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haha i know...rc, emig, and shaheen were hooting and hollaring about just watch it
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D_rock wrote:
they prolly did but stewie ran a 107 in the main
Are you really this thick? First you try to claim that Villopoto was on Reeds tail throughout the race and now you are trying to disprove facts.

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Void Main 3/8/2009 9:28pm
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D_rock wrote:
haha i know...rc, emig, and shaheen were hooting and hollaring about just watch it
I just finished watching it, they didn't say anything at all about a 1:07 in the main.
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Fastest time in the main event.

T1 1 01:08.732 Main Event Chad Reed Tampa, FL Suzuki RM-Z450
2 7 01:08.850 Main Event James M. Stewart Haines City, FL Yamaha
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D_rock 3/8/2009 9:32pm
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well i will clarify with that RV was not on reeds tail but he hung in there until he stalled and you cant tell me RV wasnt right there with him at houston he is capable of it all im tying to say...so they said stewie turned a 107.5 in his heat
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GoRide2 3/8/2009 9:37pm
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D_rock wrote:
well i will clarify with that RV was not on reeds tail but he hung in there until he stalled and you cant tell me RV...
well i will clarify with that RV was not on reeds tail but he hung in there until he stalled and you cant tell me RV wasnt right there with him at houston he is capable of it all im tying to say...so they said stewie turned a 107.5 in his heat
He was over 10 seconds behind him. He rode a great race but it is a spot of irritation for me when his fans try to say that he will suddenly start beating Reed.
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D_rock 3/8/2009 9:40pm
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woooh never said he was going to beat read i havent seen a race yet where RV can hold a lead over reed or JS but once they get by he has ran the pace not far back
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D_rock wrote:
woooh never said he was going to beat read i havent seen a race yet where RV can hold a lead over reed or JS but...
woooh never said he was going to beat read i havent seen a race yet where RV can hold a lead over reed or JS but once they get by he has ran the pace not far back
Yeah but now he has to deal with JLaw
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D_rock 3/8/2009 9:44pm
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yeah no doubt i hate lawrence with a passion but it will be a good fight for third
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BobbyM wrote:
give us a number sparky...how many? and yer a fucking dumbshit if you think jlaw couldn't go to his right or flip a U'y how many...
give us a number sparky...how many?

and yer a fucking dumbshit if you think jlaw couldn't go to his right or flip a U'y

how many ace?
How many U turns did you pull in the first turn when you were racing?
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I dont think RV is up to speed yet on the 450. He will get faster yet I believe.
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72kiteboarder 3/8/2009 11:25pm
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You know Bobby, even if they dock him one position, Alessi will not get on the podium. And all this name calling does nothing for your cause.
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You know Bobby, even if they dock him one position, Alessi will not get on the podium. And all this name calling does nothing for your...
You know Bobby, even if they dock him one position, Alessi will not get on the podium. And all this name calling does nothing for your cause.
"It's not what they call you, it's what you answer to"..

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Ozzy 3/8/2009 11:35pm
3/8/2009 11:35pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:51pm
Ok, here goes!Whistling
Most on here know full well
I'm a Jason fan. Some history!
Sure I'm proud of him.
I've been in many a 1st turn.
Up, down or sideways, what happened
there at Daytona was simple!
"A train wreck".....
Regardless of what happened next,
it's what didn't happen that's key!
1st, NO RED FLAG?
2nd, NO RE-START either?
3rd, NO PROTEST?
NONE................
Daytona was what it was!
Train wrecks are about survival!
Train wrecks are about being tough & moving on!
Again, I saw the TV, & all the replays.
But again still, please refer to my 1,2, & 3 !
E-nough said!Woohoo
Dave O.Wink


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72kiteboarder 3/8/2009 11:37pm
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I was very suprised that there was not a red flag as well.
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jtomasik 3/9/2009 4:20am
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Sondy132001 wrote:
JS had the fastest lap time of the entire event during the main, one of the announcers yelled it during the broadcast.

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Then you'd better notify the AMA:

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Sondy132001 wrote:
Maybe Reed did after Bubba did, doesn't say which lap it happened in, I'm just telling you RC and Emig got all excited and yelled Bubba's...
Maybe Reed did after Bubba did, doesn't say which lap it happened in, I'm just telling you RC and Emig got all excited and yelled Bubba's lap time in the 108's during the broadcast, it was at that point the fastest lap time of the night.

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So? Big fucking deal.

Point is that J-Law's times were competitive. Booby tried to be "smart" and insinuate that the fast lap was by somebody who didn't benefit from it, but it backfired on him.

It was obvious to most that J-Law got trapped and rode around the mess. It was obvious he was running the 3rd fastest lap in the main (only to Reed and Stew). It wasn't obvious that the kid was trying to cheat or gained unfair advantage.

And it's also obvious he rode around Alessi like Alessi was standing still, which is probably why Booby has his panties in a bunch.

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wreckitrandy 3/9/2009 6:34am
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Yeah Jason rode 'around' the mess. Well, more like, he rode SHORT of the mess but, whatever. He dodged the mess. I suppose we shouldn't be supprised by the ama's unwillingness to enforce rules but, I can't understand the punk mentality that not only permits, but rejoices in the 'hey, here I am. oh, the track goes that way but, there's stuff in the way over there. i'll go over here and, uhh, it'll be SAFER, yeah that's it, SAFER!' way of thinking. It's no wonder the world is in the mess it's in. Not much honor in it. Jason RODE very, very well. He's fast, no one can deny it. Probably fast enough to have turned back onto the track properly, in the spirit of the rules, rode AROUND the first turn, and still have RACED into the top ten. That would have been impressive.
The cure for these infractions would be 1- no people on the inside or outside of the first turn. That means no photographers or team managers. 2- signage, tape or barriers solid all the way to the apex of the first turn. 3- no riding beside the track at any time for any reason. Enter the track at the exact point or behind, that you exited, no exceptions. 4- ENFORCE ALL RULES or, get out of the way and let someone do it who will. Sorry for the rant. Now flame away
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BobbyM 3/9/2009 6:50am
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Void Main wrote:
I just watched the heat and they didn't say it there. I am watching the main now and they just said Stewie turned the fastest lap...
I just watched the heat and they didn't say it there. I am watching the main now and they just said Stewie turned the fastest lap of the night at 1:08.8 on the 8th lap. I'll keep watching to see if they ever say 1:07.5 but do you think maybe you misheard them?
it was the main...but so what. these dipshits look stoopid anyways. main or heat....lmfao.
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BobbyM 3/9/2009 6:52am
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The Rock wrote:
How many U turns did you pull in the first turn when you were racing?
well when we raced the bikes they didn't have movable front ends...you had to lean the bike to turn rock....you know that.
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BobbyM 3/9/2009 6:54am
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72kiteboarder wrote:
You know Bobby, even if they dock him one position, Alessi will not get on the podium. And all this name calling does nothing for your...
You know Bobby, even if they dock him one position, Alessi will not get on the podium. And all this name calling does nothing for your cause.
fukit then...give him the win you poophead.
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Yeah Jason rode 'around' the mess. Well, more like, he rode SHORT of the mess but, whatever. He dodged the mess. I suppose we shouldn't be...
Yeah Jason rode 'around' the mess. Well, more like, he rode SHORT of the mess but, whatever. He dodged the mess. I suppose we shouldn't be supprised by the ama's unwillingness to enforce rules but, I can't understand the punk mentality that not only permits, but rejoices in the 'hey, here I am. oh, the track goes that way but, there's stuff in the way over there. i'll go over here and, uhh, it'll be SAFER, yeah that's it, SAFER!' way of thinking. It's no wonder the world is in the mess it's in. Not much honor in it. Jason RODE very, very well. He's fast, no one can deny it. Probably fast enough to have turned back onto the track properly, in the spirit of the rules, rode AROUND the first turn, and still have RACED into the top ten. That would have been impressive.
The cure for these infractions would be 1- no people on the inside or outside of the first turn. That means no photographers or team managers. 2- signage, tape or barriers solid all the way to the apex of the first turn. 3- no riding beside the track at any time for any reason. Enter the track at the exact point or behind, that you exited, no exceptions. 4- ENFORCE ALL RULES or, get out of the way and let someone do it who will. Sorry for the rant. Now flame away
I agree with 1 through 4. Considering the situation, he seemed to have made the right choice. IMO, he shoulda just ran over the photographers to get back on the track as soon as possible. That'd help his bad-boy image.
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BobbyM 3/9/2009 7:38am
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I agree with 1 through 4. Considering the situation, he seemed to have made the right choice. IMO, he shoulda just ran over the photographers to...
I agree with 1 through 4. Considering the situation, he seemed to have made the right choice. IMO, he shoulda just ran over the photographers to get back on the track as soon as possible. That'd help his bad-boy image.
you are finally seeing my point...yer welcome son.
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Okay so im finally home and just got a chance to look at the picture of the start. I was standing trackside as to watch the start from the side (the side with the farthest gate) and not head on. If you watch the video you will see Jay wheelie out of the gate but manitain control and skimming the banners to his left. Once the bike was down he gassed it to the corner but when the pile up happened he SLID as to miss them and at the same time cut the track. Im not saying it was the right possible move but at that speed there was no time to "think" of going around, its all happens within seconds. REMEMBER this was on grass not dirt so for all riders it was different than any other start. No ones at fault for the crash
And don't bash me because I support Jay, thats not the point here, just sayin what I saw.

IMHO since Jay had put down the fastest lap time and never raced this class the other top riders didnt know what to expect if in fact he got out front, therefore taking chances to get the holeshot ,as to not find out.
And I really dont think its funny to make fun of Stewart trying to get on Hills bike, that was a sign of a head injury possibly and not funny AT ALL.
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I don't have anything against him, but he got a HUGE advantage by cutting the track. His final position would have been much different had he not cut the track. That's just MHO.


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J-Law straight SMOKED Mikey. LOL! Deal with it bitch.
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35smom wrote:
Okay so im finally home and just got a chance to look at the picture of the start. I was standing trackside as to watch the...
Okay so im finally home and just got a chance to look at the picture of the start. I was standing trackside as to watch the start from the side (the side with the farthest gate) and not head on. If you watch the video you will see Jay wheelie out of the gate but manitain control and skimming the banners to his left. Once the bike was down he gassed it to the corner but when the pile up happened he SLID as to miss them and at the same time cut the track. Im not saying it was the right possible move but at that speed there was no time to "think" of going around, its all happens within seconds. REMEMBER this was on grass not dirt so for all riders it was different than any other start. No ones at fault for the crash
And don't bash me because I support Jay, thats not the point here, just sayin what I saw.

IMHO since Jay had put down the fastest lap time and never raced this class the other top riders didnt know what to expect if in fact he got out front, therefore taking chances to get the holeshot ,as to not find out.
And I really dont think its funny to make fun of Stewart trying to get on Hills bike, that was a sign of a head injury possibly and not funny AT ALL.
i don't blame jlaw..i might have done the same thing...but he did gain a huge advantage. we all saw it.
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BobbyM 3/9/2009 8:49am
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devonb wrote:
J-Law straight SMOKED Mikey. LOL! Deal with it bitch.
brilliant reply bungster.
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devonb wrote:
J-Law straight SMOKED Mikey. LOL! Deal with it bitch.
Just wait til they are at Freestone in 98 degree heat and 100 humidity; that rental car rolling misfit will be fading faster than a cheap pair of jeans in clorox while Mikey keeps his Zook pinned til the checkers.

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