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The fans all won, getting to watch that exciting, down to the wire bar banging.
To have a valid opinion, we'd all need a firm grasp on the AMA Pro racing rule book. Wonder how many have that?
Easy to doubt and critique when you're not accountable..
Zach and Ryan are champs. Congrats boys, you both earned it.
Is making me want to order a pizza and then take a nap
Now the Tomac deal. What he pulled was beyond a finable offense. I've been watching SX since 1972 and I don't ever recall seeing the leader of a race intentionally slow down to take a shot at the rider coming up from behind. To do that 3 times was unbelievable. His actions should have drawn a suspension. If this was Alessi pulling that crap u guys would hang him from a tree
Get the sand out of your snatch....
He was going for a championship.........
Rubbins racin.........
If Osborne or anyone else takes someone out like that and blows someone's knee out
Brakes there leg or anything to put them on the sidelines for a few months then they would make a change for sure
It's fun and games but there's a limit
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Instead, we have secret penalties that it sounds like Zach isn't even allowed to talk about.
I know things change and they evolve and all that, but motocross is motocross, it should never be policed by an outside force, especially by one that has never raced before. If you've never done it you will never understand it.
I say make a guy like Larocco your referee. You clean a guy out just know you have one coming someday, only time a ref should be involved is for some dipshit cutting the track or blatantly trying to cut a guy in half, the rest WILL be resolved eventually.
Outdoors somewhere along the lines you will see zach on the dirt and a kawi riding off, maybe at the end of the year when a championship could be on the line, that is what will deter it from getting out of hand. You can not control everything and maintain the integrity of this crazy sport, you can try and you will fail, nascar is trying and guess what, they are failing.. miserably i might add. Dont travel that path
AMA motocross has one of the smallest rules and regs book of any motorsport I've ever been a part of. Comprehending the rules isn't the problem. the problem is the absolute lack of rules, and the the rules that exist are not clearly defined. in fact, there is almost nothing relating to these issues outside of "overly" aggressive riding. Well who the fuck is deciding what is "overly"?
I guess thats where the problem lies. we've left it to the discretion of one man. in some walks of life, thats called a dictatorship. Have the words dictator and fair & balanced ever been in the same sentence together?
regardless of how fair John Gallagher wants or tries to be, he's just one man, one perspective, one ect...there are no guarantees without some sort of checks and balances.
Like I said, everyone knows the pass/takeout was legit and not dirty. But that doesn't stop the crying from Kawi/PC/Monster etc.
So this fine is nothing more then a pity fine to appease the money changers. Er I mean manufacturers, Er I mean sponsors.
This sport doesn't need more rules, or some kind of committee to determine infractions. On the whole John does a good job between balancing the rules and ultimately the politics/money that actually govern the sport.
Hope that all made sense. I'm on my phone.
The AMA/Gallagher/FIM is being inconsistent?
When did this start?
The AMA will issue a statement as soon as the Japanese manufacturers approve it. Unless Harley stamps it first.
Why would they keep it secret?
Perhaps a donation to the medical unit was suggested, but a fine imposed.......
Bullshit
In Zach's case I view it just as hard racing. If according to the Race Director it is a violation of the rules, then issuing a fine only encourages future racers to engage in the same behavior.
If there was a fine to Osborne and not to Tomac or Anderson, then JG is once again a clueless, inconsistent, fool. timed mains were a good improvement for 2017. For 2018, more dirt, and better officiating.
Pit Row
Leave everything on the table, barring t-bones. That's reviewed AFTER the event to a 5 person panel, 3 members should be independant of anything, like David Bailey via tv link... and the penalty is DNQ for the next event if in the affirmative. But only AFTER the fucking event is this decision made.
Everything else, now the riders are self-officiating. The catch being that any deliberate contact, ie JG/Mookie, Zach/Savatgy, JA21/CR22, contact causing a crash, is a significant and non-negotiable financial hit, no matter what.
$50K hit for factory guys, 25K for second tier teams, 5k for privateers...
and 100% of that goes to the medic bus.
Done. No arguments. No silly last gate pick this week, 5 seconds that. Just done. Money to somewhere that desperately needs it, riders policing themselves and action on the track with no more pusshole arguments.
And really, the same penalty for Osborne, making a last lap, near last turn charge to the front vs JG in a pissed off moment in a heat race? Those are pretty distinctly different moves.
you say he does a good job. good. words. let me see if my bank will accept those as tender...
and "pity fines"?
so there you have it...participants with no integrity, an organizing body with no integrity, and a race director with no integrity. yeah...cool, everything's gravy baby.
We no longer have to decide anything other than deliberateness. Osborne meant contact. JG meant contact. Anderson meant contact. It's pretty easy to judge. In the last 10 years, maybe Canard on RV in 2008 might be grey, but he jumped in there, so deliberate.
The riders know the penalty ahead of time, it's consistent and on them. No arguments. No FIM/Gallagher specials. No situational reasoning, no retaliation, no he said, she said. No protests won by Roger but not Bruce. Nothing.
You make deliberate contact and the other guy goes down. Sweet, no dramas, just open your wallet and run the replay for tv highlights.
And the DNQ, Do not qualify at the next round, properly assessed, is the ONLY way to do it professionally, fairly, and the example set by every other professional non-janky motorsport in the world. SX is behind.
It's racing ... for a championship. 16 should have never been close enough to touch 17.. he has a huge heart though and he did what he HAD to do to win the championship in the last turn. He won a Championship. Well earned
Chad should have protected himself. He better than anyone knows who he just passed... But Andersons move does need to be looked at.... It was borderline and last race so they looked the other way and moved on.. I mean the guy handing out discipline is a known joke anyway... And never consitant
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