I'm going to Iran (updated)

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Can you sign some sort of waiver that states we don't have to come look for you if you disappear? Can you post a pic so...
Can you sign some sort of waiver that states we don't have to come look for you if you disappear? Can you post a pic so when the beheading video comes out we know it's you?

I think it's balsy to go but I have zero sympathy for anyone "kidnapped" over there.
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You have the countries mixed up. It's like me saying I hate going to the US because I don't like sauerkraut and soccer. The Iranians don't...
You have the countries mixed up. It's like me saying I hate going to the US because I don't like sauerkraut and soccer. The Iranians don't behead people. You are thinking of our allies in the gulf region
No I'm not confused at all. Anything east of Ohio is bad news.
4/24/2017 2:37pm
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Damn, didn't see this before now! I know where to go to ride mx. There is an ok track just outside og Tehran, and one outside...
Damn, didn't see this before now! I know where to go to ride mx. There is an ok track just outside og Tehran, and one outside Masshad too I believe. I was almost hit by a dude one a brand new yzf450 with fresh dirt on it one afternoon in Tehran. Awesome stuff! How was you trip?
Trip was great. My girlfriend has a persian dad and that's why we decided to go and check out where she was born. Actually we wanted to go to Daytona SX this year but due to the travel ban and other uncertainties we didn't go and it turned out to be a blessing in disguise because we planned the Iran trip instead. We got in touch with some distant relatives in advance and tried to learn some farsi which was a good call. The first two days we been in Tehran (mostly museums) and after that we went to Behshahr (her birth place) by train through the Elburs mountains (highest elevation is mount Damavand with 5604m). We spent a week in the Behshahr area (ca 90.000 population) and I only can confirm your impressions of the persian hospitality. We had invitations for breakfast, lunch and dinner every day at different places and with different familys. Everybody treated us like kings. between meals they rode around with us, showed us everything you have to see when you're there for the first time, went into all kinds of stores, went hiking in the mountains, swimming in caspian sea and even to the local MX track on friday (the persian sunday...). Once I went to a bakery around the corner in the morning and on the way I met like 4 people who I met before and all of them were super happy to meet me again, I almost felt like a local.
The food: I was in love with persian food long before but what we got to eat there almost brought tears to my eyes. All kinds of kebap, fesenjuhn, ghorme sabzie, Ghameh and the usual bits and pieces like salads, mast o khiar and so on. all these dishes every day on one table!! A dinner like that takes easily 2 days of preparation for the cook and his assistants. And they were super happy when they realized that you really like it. When we arrived at the train station the day we had to leave, much to our surprise there were like 50 people waiting for us to say good bye and everybody had a little present for us. Man that was overwhelming.
We then headed south to Isfahan to check out some historical buildings and stuff like that and that city (population 4 million) was total mellow, kind friendly and relaxed. People were interested in why we are there, wanted to make some selfies with us and I never ever felt any kind of unsafe. When some guy on a bazar walked like 3 steps beside you to draw attention to his stuff somebody behind us yelled at him and the guy apologized for his obtrusivness.
Man, I experienced so much there I don't know what to tell first Grinning Grinning

As for the political situation, to understand you have to know what happend there back in the 50s with the UK and the US involvement in oil affairs and that's the sad part. Iranians suffer from the mullah regime and the economic embargo. The people revolt against the regime on a small scale to avoid the draconian punishments the mullahs are known for but basically Iran becomes more and more a pretty secular state. Even though the Islam is a state religion, not that many people live it in their private lives. The government builds pompous mosques in every town but people barely go there. Most of the people I met were pretty educated with a university degree but they all have problems to find a proper job. Big companies are not allowed to settle there due to the economic embargo and that keeps the people down and makes the regime even more powerful.




Tehran art museum (the collection of the shahs wife - great one)




our host in Tehran Wink




weekly market in Behshar





hiking in the hills




famous bridge in isfahan



our little daughter was a superstar Laughing



famous square in Isfahan (2nd largest in the world)
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Great stories and pictures guys! This thread exposed my ignorance of Iran and how beautiful the country and people are. All you hear in the news is the force fed propaganda, but these types of stories show the true nature of the country. Keep the pics and stories coming!
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Roundthehouse - that's a good read and very cool pics. Iran is nothing like I imagined. Adding Iran to Norway as must visit countries.

Conversely, Sunhouse's pictures and write-up of his travel to North Korea was as imagined. No plans to visit that one.

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Cool reads and photos, thanks for sharing.

Is it unnerving when random strangers are so friendly toward you like that? I think that would sketch me out at first in a foreign land, like they had ulterior motives and I was being set up somehow.
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Now I know where the idea came from... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/04/24/190211/s1200_Screen_Shot_2017_04_24_at_2.02.02_PM.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/04/21/189428/s1200_DSC_0401.jpg[/img] Cool stories and photos. You win the Vital MX Travel Adventurer Award. :)
Now I know where the idea came from...





Cool stories and photos. You win the Vital MX Travel Adventurer Award. Smile
Haha, thanks Laughing
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Trip was great. My girlfriend has a persian dad and that's why we decided to go and check out where she was born. Actually we wanted...
Trip was great. My girlfriend has a persian dad and that's why we decided to go and check out where she was born. Actually we wanted to go to Daytona SX this year but due to the travel ban and other uncertainties we didn't go and it turned out to be a blessing in disguise because we planned the Iran trip instead. We got in touch with some distant relatives in advance and tried to learn some farsi which was a good call. The first two days we been in Tehran (mostly museums) and after that we went to Behshahr (her birth place) by train through the Elburs mountains (highest elevation is mount Damavand with 5604m). We spent a week in the Behshahr area (ca 90.000 population) and I only can confirm your impressions of the persian hospitality. We had invitations for breakfast, lunch and dinner every day at different places and with different familys. Everybody treated us like kings. between meals they rode around with us, showed us everything you have to see when you're there for the first time, went into all kinds of stores, went hiking in the mountains, swimming in caspian sea and even to the local MX track on friday (the persian sunday...). Once I went to a bakery around the corner in the morning and on the way I met like 4 people who I met before and all of them were super happy to meet me again, I almost felt like a local.
The food: I was in love with persian food long before but what we got to eat there almost brought tears to my eyes. All kinds of kebap, fesenjuhn, ghorme sabzie, Ghameh and the usual bits and pieces like salads, mast o khiar and so on. all these dishes every day on one table!! A dinner like that takes easily 2 days of preparation for the cook and his assistants. And they were super happy when they realized that you really like it. When we arrived at the train station the day we had to leave, much to our surprise there were like 50 people waiting for us to say good bye and everybody had a little present for us. Man that was overwhelming.
We then headed south to Isfahan to check out some historical buildings and stuff like that and that city (population 4 million) was total mellow, kind friendly and relaxed. People were interested in why we are there, wanted to make some selfies with us and I never ever felt any kind of unsafe. When some guy on a bazar walked like 3 steps beside you to draw attention to his stuff somebody behind us yelled at him and the guy apologized for his obtrusivness.
Man, I experienced so much there I don't know what to tell first Grinning Grinning

As for the political situation, to understand you have to know what happend there back in the 50s with the UK and the US involvement in oil affairs and that's the sad part. Iranians suffer from the mullah regime and the economic embargo. The people revolt against the regime on a small scale to avoid the draconian punishments the mullahs are known for but basically Iran becomes more and more a pretty secular state. Even though the Islam is a state religion, not that many people live it in their private lives. The government builds pompous mosques in every town but people barely go there. Most of the people I met were pretty educated with a university degree but they all have problems to find a proper job. Big companies are not allowed to settle there due to the economic embargo and that keeps the people down and makes the regime even more powerful.




Tehran art museum (the collection of the shahs wife - great one)




our host in Tehran Wink




weekly market in Behshar





hiking in the hills




famous bridge in isfahan



our little daughter was a superstar Laughing



famous square in Isfahan (2nd largest in the world)
Good write up man! Maybe my reading comprehension is bad, but did you go the the jungle-like forrests or the old 4000 year old towns while you were in Northern Iran? I was recommended to go there. I have already made a new route and plans to go back in September/ October. Thinking Northern Iran, Isfahan and Kish. Kish is warm, liberal and apparently where many young Iranians go to party. Not really going to Iran to party myself, but would love to have experienced or seen it in person
Which airline did you fly? Smile
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Roundthehouse - that's a good read and very cool pics. Iran is nothing like I imagined. Adding Iran to Norway as must visit countries. Conversely, Sunhouse's...
Roundthehouse - that's a good read and very cool pics. Iran is nothing like I imagined. Adding Iran to Norway as must visit countries.

Conversely, Sunhouse's pictures and write-up of his travel to North Korea was as imagined. No plans to visit that one.
Glad you enjoyed both! Smile I think Iran has been my all time favourite so far. Safety is not a concern - guaranteed!

I'm thinking Lebanon and Syria (Damascus) next. A couple of Swedes I met i Pyongyang wanted me to join them in Damascus last week, but I couldn't get time off of work after Iran. Damascus seems very interesting and relatively safe with enough research, planning and guidance. You just need to be smart about staying out of rebel reach Sideways
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Cool reads and photos, thanks for sharing. Is it unnerving when random strangers are so friendly toward you like that? I think that would sketch me...
Cool reads and photos, thanks for sharing.

Is it unnerving when random strangers are so friendly toward you like that? I think that would sketch me out at first in a foreign land, like they had ulterior motives and I was being set up somehow.
If you asked me a few years ago I would have answered yes. But after having traveled on my own the last few years I have to say no. Especially in Iran, they mean you absolutely no harm. In other countries people can be very annoying because you are white and presumably a rich tourist because you are white and in their country. Northern Africa, Central America and Turkey come to mind. But generally people are just nice, but we get scared because they interact and approach us differently than we do back home. As Westerners we have been tought to fear anyone, which is just not correct. Let people approach, research before you go to a country what their customs are, and you can handle any situation. Many times knowing the norms and local politeness will come a long way too. People will appreciate that you know a few words or weird customs they have and may open doors to expriences you never imagined. Strangers will most often go out of their way to help you anywhere and anytime. We just have to understand that they do it differently. I have received assistance with a place to stay, food and a bed from the grumpiest, scariest guy I have ever seen. I also received a really warm man-hug from my North Korean minder as I was leaving Pyongyang. People are good - anywhere. We just aren't brought up to see or think that. Our news are filled with fear and shock value unfortunately.
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Can you sign some sort of waiver that states we don't have to come look for you if you disappear? Can you post a pic so...
Can you sign some sort of waiver that states we don't have to come look for you if you disappear? Can you post a pic so when the beheading video comes out we know it's you?

I think it's balsy to go but I have zero sympathy for anyone "kidnapped" over there.
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since the murder rate is half what the US rate is, are you sure your all that safe at home? do you wonder why it Iran...
since the murder rate is half what the US rate is, are you sure your all that safe at home?

do you wonder why it Iran is continually portrayed as your enemy, yet other gulf states that do have state beheadings, and the other things you worry about, are portrayed as your allies?
Curious about those murder rate stats and how they were calculated? Not disputing it just curious about what logic was used to come up with "murder rates"
4/26/2017 12:57pm Edited Date/Time 4/26/2017 1:14pm
Sunhouse! The longest distance trip I made was from Behshahr to Bandar e Torkaman at the Turkmenian border - completely different there. The view of the city was a little ramshackled, people wear different clothes then they do in the other parts of Iran and they look more like mongols. I'd say it is more Turkmenistan than Iran. In Behshar I've been at an archeological excavation site of a city which was founded 6000 years ago and existed for 3000(!) years. The archeologists were from munich and unfortunately they kicked em out when the revolution began. Since then they just covered everything with a cobbled asbestic roof and left it like it was back in the 70s. But there was a dude who was the guide or something who was super cool and nice. We walked around at the site and he explained everything gladly.

The forests reminded me a little of appalachia. The humid climate just make it jungle like and there are some cool waterfalls, riverbeds and viewpoints to stop and have a picnic. The Irianians I met like to hike in larger groups and they even carry carpets and tons of food on the mountain just to have a cool picnic on top. Iranians in general love to have a good picnic.

I met some people from Bam in the south of the country and they told me that there are a lot of specialtys too there. It's a kind of a economic zone with less regulations, so life seems to even more "western" there. But it can be very hot down there. The younger generation in Tehran usually leave the city to have a party. On the country site there are almost no controls by the morals enforcers so that's why they go there. It is all "private" but you know, you'll be in on it Wink

edit: flight was with alitalia from Düsseldorf via rome. Nothing special...
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my co worker is from iran, got any hash pics???
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Sunhouse! The longest distance trip I made was from Behshahr to Bandar e Torkaman at the Turkmenian border - completely different there. The view of the...
Sunhouse! The longest distance trip I made was from Behshahr to Bandar e Torkaman at the Turkmenian border - completely different there. The view of the city was a little ramshackled, people wear different clothes then they do in the other parts of Iran and they look more like mongols. I'd say it is more Turkmenistan than Iran. In Behshar I've been at an archeological excavation site of a city which was founded 6000 years ago and existed for 3000(!) years. The archeologists were from munich and unfortunately they kicked em out when the revolution began. Since then they just covered everything with a cobbled asbestic roof and left it like it was back in the 70s. But there was a dude who was the guide or something who was super cool and nice. We walked around at the site and he explained everything gladly.

The forests reminded me a little of appalachia. The humid climate just make it jungle like and there are some cool waterfalls, riverbeds and viewpoints to stop and have a picnic. The Irianians I met like to hike in larger groups and they even carry carpets and tons of food on the mountain just to have a cool picnic on top. Iranians in general love to have a good picnic.

I met some people from Bam in the south of the country and they told me that there are a lot of specialtys too there. It's a kind of a economic zone with less regulations, so life seems to even more "western" there. But it can be very hot down there. The younger generation in Tehran usually leave the city to have a party. On the country site there are almost no controls by the morals enforcers so that's why they go there. It is all "private" but you know, you'll be in on it Wink

edit: flight was with alitalia from Düsseldorf via rome. Nothing special...
Cool! Yeah they fly down to Qish or Hormuz apparently and go to the islands near Dubai. They are free economic and legislative zones I've been told. Would love to go there to experience it. My buddy used Tinder and met up with a girl in Tehran, she was crazy about the place. Basically they go there to drink, get laid and do all kinds of drugs.
Personally I don't do drugs, but a beer and some Persian women would be nice...Tongue
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Me and the Mrs. just spent 10 days in Egypt for our honeymoon. It was my first time overseas and it was an absolute blast. The Egyptian people were extremely friendly and the exchange rate was definitely in our favor. We did Cairo, Luxor and Hurghada. I managed to sneak a few pics of King Tut's mummy and inside the tombs where they were definitely not allowed!! I would definitely recommend it to anyone. We never felt unsafe or scared of our surroundings. We even got a free day in Istanbul when we missed our connecting flight. The blue mosque was absolutely amazing.



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Can you sign some sort of waiver that states we don't have to come look for you if you disappear? Can you post a pic so...
Can you sign some sort of waiver that states we don't have to come look for you if you disappear? Can you post a pic so when the beheading video comes out we know it's you?

I think it's balsy to go but I have zero sympathy for anyone "kidnapped" over there.
Sunhouse wrote:
You have the countries mixed up. It's like me saying I hate going to the US because I don't like sauerkraut and soccer. The Iranians don't...
You have the countries mixed up. It's like me saying I hate going to the US because I don't like sauerkraut and soccer. The Iranians don't behead people. You are thinking of our allies in the gulf region
No I'm not confused at all. Anything east of Ohio is bad news.


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Me and the Mrs. just spent 10 days in Egypt for our honeymoon. It was my first time overseas and it was an absolute blast. The...
Me and the Mrs. just spent 10 days in Egypt for our honeymoon. It was my first time overseas and it was an absolute blast. The Egyptian people were extremely friendly and the exchange rate was definitely in our favor. We did Cairo, Luxor and Hurghada. I managed to sneak a few pics of King Tut's mummy and inside the tombs where they were definitely not allowed!! I would definitely recommend it to anyone. We never felt unsafe or scared of our surroundings. We even got a free day in Istanbul when we missed our connecting flight. The blue mosque was absolutely amazing.



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Nice. The biggest threat in egypt comes out of the water tap and makes you spend at least three days on the loo Wink
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mxer146 wrote:
Me and the Mrs. just spent 10 days in Egypt for our honeymoon. It was my first time overseas and it was an absolute blast. The...
Me and the Mrs. just spent 10 days in Egypt for our honeymoon. It was my first time overseas and it was an absolute blast. The Egyptian people were extremely friendly and the exchange rate was definitely in our favor. We did Cairo, Luxor and Hurghada. I managed to sneak a few pics of King Tut's mummy and inside the tombs where they were definitely not allowed!! I would definitely recommend it to anyone. We never felt unsafe or scared of our surroundings. We even got a free day in Istanbul when we missed our connecting flight. The blue mosque was absolutely amazing.



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I'm jealous! Always wanted to see the pyramids and the Valley of the Kings. When I was little I used to read constantly about ancient history, and Egyptian history in particular. Did you get to stay in the pyramids for as long as you wanted, or did they rush you along?

Thanks for sharing Smile
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Iran looks beautiful. I heard some parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan are equally as beautiful.
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mxer146 wrote:
Me and the Mrs. just spent 10 days in Egypt for our honeymoon. It was my first time overseas and it was an absolute blast. The...
Me and the Mrs. just spent 10 days in Egypt for our honeymoon. It was my first time overseas and it was an absolute blast. The Egyptian people were extremely friendly and the exchange rate was definitely in our favor. We did Cairo, Luxor and Hurghada. I managed to sneak a few pics of King Tut's mummy and inside the tombs where they were definitely not allowed!! I would definitely recommend it to anyone. We never felt unsafe or scared of our surroundings. We even got a free day in Istanbul when we missed our connecting flight. The blue mosque was absolutely amazing.



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Sunhouse wrote:
I'm jealous! Always wanted to see the pyramids and the Valley of the Kings. When I was little I used to read constantly about ancient history...
I'm jealous! Always wanted to see the pyramids and the Valley of the Kings. When I was little I used to read constantly about ancient history, and Egyptian history in particular. Did you get to stay in the pyramids for as long as you wanted, or did they rush you along?

Thanks for sharing Smile
We didn't actually go in any of the big 3 pyramids. We did go down into one of the smaller queen pyramids next to the biggest one. It was extremely cramped and very tiny but quite the experience.

In the valley of the kings, we were at free reign. They had "guards" to make sure you weren't taking pictures or being disrespectful, but we'd tip them 50 Egyptian pounds (about $2.50) and they'd take the pictures for us haha.

I'd definitely recommend going if you get the chance. Walking into 6000 year old tombs is quite amazing.

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