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the alta has 122lbft per alta's homepage
but check this out, the sarolea sp7 supposedly has 900nm of torque (660 lbft)
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/04/08/2015-sarolea-sp7-debut-electric-moto…
I'm already wondering if they would build one with a 52mm Cone Valve forks and a WP dropout shock?
Bruce372, drop me a PM. Maybe we'll be able to find a few minutes to meet up. Would love to see what you're up to!
mx_563, that sounds like Matty if he was also on an '08 250. Yeah, mine is for sale. I was keeping it for longer trails like Stoney Ford, but I've been finding that my Redshift is so much more fun, I haven't used it in a year. $3k if anyone is interested. Dale Lineaweaver just tuned the carb, and the sad thing is it nows runs better than it ever did in the time I owned it since new.
Johnny Depp, thanks for the kind words. Yup, standard pack at the EnduroCross. Sure less weight is always better, but the truth is armed with a full scale MX chassis most riders want all the energy that's in our pack (which is more than twice what's in the KTM). Also, what we're finding is if we don't tell people the weight, they think it is much lighter thanks to the mass centralization and lack of gyro. Josh Hill hopped from his built KX onto the Redshift and came back thinking the Redshift was in the 220s. It is less tiring to ride than any bike I've ever been on, at any weight.
And thanks for the link. Hadn't seen that one yet! And yeah, we're all really excited about the Straight Rhythm. Not sure what will happen but it's going to be fun. We considered the Monster Cup too, and may hit it next year, but it was just too many events at once for us to take on this year.
Not that you need my advice, but offering the WP top of the line components as an option is a perfect fit for a bike that is already priced for those willing to speak with their wallets (or credit).
I like cutting my finger on a piston ring and cussing.
I like cutting open oil filters.
I like spark plugs.
I like starting a 4 stroke with the muffler off at midnite and watching the flame.
After it goes through our internal gear reduction, you've got 122lbs/ft at the countershaft sprocket. This figure it useful for measuring against direct drive electrics like the Zero.
After it goes through 52/13 final drive (chain and sprockets) you've got about 500lbs of torque is at the rear wheel. This is actually what accelerates a bike and is the best way to compare vehicle to vehicle at a given speed, BUT it depends on gearing (so you can make a weak bike look very torquey with crazy gearing that will run out of RPM at 15mph) and it also just isn't what is ever published for gas bikes. If you want to nerd out about rear wheel torque, here's an old tech article I wrote to help folks compare gas to electric to electric.
Kurt took 2nd at the Denver EX, BTW, and we'll be announcing some other race efforts tomorrow night. Stoked.
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http://www.cyclenews.com/2016/10/article/josh-hill-set-ride-alta-electr…
I hope he kicks ass & takes numbers on this thing.
https://youtu.be/vaQNvcaDKP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaQNvcaDKP8
How much maintenance is involved with this bike ? I like the idea of no oil and filters to change , it would be nice to go ride and not worry about working on it except keeping it charged.
Also what is the expected life of the power plant and gear train ?
Yeah, we didn't expect it, but Red Bull got really excited about the story of our participation, so we're getting a crazy boost from them promoting it. Unfortunately, Josh Hill is a Monster Energy athlete, and I think today the higher ups caught wind of that and pulled the articles from their homepage and social media. It was sweet while it lasted... more attention in 24 hours than I think we've gotten in total up to now.
Bobojim, we definitely have some ideas for kids bikes and think we could make a pretty amazing one, but it would be a new development project and we're still focused on making sure the Redshift is the bike we want it to be. Short version: I want to make one and we probably will eventually, but don't hold your breath.
sdfog1, thank you. SO MUCH. Most of the team (me included) weren't able to be at the event and CBS isn't airing any footage until the 10th, so I hadn't seen any footage from the race. That was awesome. I'm so glad you caught it and posted it. I just reposted it internally at Alta to Slack for the team to see, and I'm listening folks across the office watching it and getting stoked.
500guy, essentially no drivetrain maintenance for the life (1000 hours) of the bike. Still have to do consumables (tires, chain, sprockets, etc), and eventually chassis bearings, but outside of that (or winterizing) you should never need to open the drivetrain. We've torn them down after 150 hours of motocross and the internals still looked new. No detectable wear. The limitation is chassis life (which should match or exceed any of the aluminum chassis bikes) and the battery pack which has a minimum life of 1000 hours (at which point it will still be full power but will be as low as 80% of the original range).
es337, pack is about 70lbs and roughly 9"W x 10"L x 16"H for 5.8kWh
I'm reading between the lines that Red Bull wouldn't likely get all jazzed up and make the Electric debut a headliner if they didn't already know it could run competitive lap times in practice hmm?
Question, have you ever considered entering the bike in a hillclimb event? I race pro hillclimbs and I could see the torque produced by the electric motor being a huge advantage in this type of racing, as well as not having to worry about covering the clutch constantly. The only disadvantage I see is that 450cc is the smallest class we run, but if the bike was competitive even against 450s that would really be a great showing. I don't know how exactly it would fit in with the current rules, but I bet people would be pretty open to the idea. Just a thought that popped into my head since we're racing this weekend out at Carnegie, I can't wait for a demo day to try the bike out, it looks killer from a rider's and an engineer's perspective.
We've thought about hillclimb but haven't done any big, competition style testing yet. Maybe some of our first customers will give it a shot for us? I can say that on trail style technical hillclimbs, the bike is pretty amazing. On top of the work we did on throttle control paying big dividends in traction, you just never get caught in that spot where you start losing speed, falling off the power, and having to try to sneak in a downshift. Everyone is making it up stuff on this bike that they can't on their gas bikes, even with the stock 19" 100mm rear tire on MX.
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