Wow NASCAR New Hampshire

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Edited Date/Time 7/17/2016 11:30am
Can't remember the last nascar race I watched (and I'm a fan of stock car racing) I scrolled past it and started watching.....WOW the stands aren't even half full!

If moto and any other sport wants to survive, they better get creative and figure out what people want!
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7/17/2016 11:11am
Make a chase format, worked for Nascar.....oh wait....
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They are in full panic. The tv numbers are at record lows and the loose sprint at the end of the year.
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hillbilly wrote:
They are in full panic. The tv numbers are at record lows and the loose sprint at the end of the year.
Crazy stuff for sure.....then if they lose Dale Jr for concussions
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Can't remember the last nascar race I watched (and I'm a fan of stock car racing) I scrolled past it and started watching.....WOW the stands aren't...
Can't remember the last nascar race I watched (and I'm a fan of stock car racing) I scrolled past it and started watching.....WOW the stands aren't even half full!

If moto and any other sport wants to survive, they better get creative and figure out what people want!
Non-Moto...

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7/17/2016 11:32am
Because every lap there is caution , somebody crashes. Super boring.
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7/17/2016 12:19pm
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events
we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the shit thats going on near there has my Wife thinking we should cancel. Told her then ISIS wins
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7/17/2016 12:44pm
hillbilly wrote:
They are in full panic. The tv numbers are at record lows and the loose sprint at the end of the year.
I'm not sure of the attendance stats for tracks outside the Southeast. They could sell out Darlington twice per year. Folks are still angry about losing that venue to a once per year event. Maybe NASCAR needs to dance more with who brought them to the prom.
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7/17/2016 2:10pm
ML512 wrote:
Non-Moto...
I sure hope what is happing to NASCAR is Non-Moto!!!!! SX, does not need to follow NASCAR down the drain. Chase Format Sick Sick Sick
7/17/2016 2:48pm
Old-Man wrote:
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the...
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events
we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the shit thats going on near there has my Wife thinking we should cancel. Told her then ISIS wins

Attendance has been declining for years. Tracks that recently added seats have taken them out or sometimes cover them with huge advertisements.
California Speedway started with sell outs, then sell outs twice a year to added seats and more sell outs.
Down to one race a year and no longer a sell out.
I stopped going because they crammed too many people in one row, very uncomfortable for all when there is a sellout. It would be nice if they took a couple seats from each row if they ever feel the need to reduce capacity.
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7/17/2016 3:38pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
Can't remember the last nascar race I watched (and I'm a fan of stock car racing) I scrolled past it and started watching.....WOW the stands aren't...
Can't remember the last nascar race I watched (and I'm a fan of stock car racing) I scrolled past it and started watching.....WOW the stands aren't even half full!

If moto and any other sport wants to survive, they better get creative and figure out what people want!
I noticed that to, they were empty! Prob not even close to half full.
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Old-Man wrote:
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the...
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events
we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the shit thats going on near there has my Wife thinking we should cancel. Told her then ISIS wins
For real? People aren't going to boring stock car races because of ISIS? Always warm up before stretching that hard. Then again, the average Nascar fan probably thinks along those same lines, so maybe you're right.
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7/17/2016 4:32pm
Old-Man wrote:
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the...
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events
we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the shit thats going on near there has my Wife thinking we should cancel. Told her then ISIS wins
JW381 wrote:
For real? People aren't going to boring stock car races because of ISIS? Always warm up before stretching that hard. Then again, the average Nascar fan...
For real? People aren't going to boring stock car races because of ISIS? Always warm up before stretching that hard. Then again, the average Nascar fan probably thinks along those same lines, so maybe you're right.
Ouch dude
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1911 wrote:
I sure hope what is happing to NASCAR is Non-Moto!!!!! SX, does not need to follow NASCAR down the drain. Chase Format Sick Sick Sick
I moved this to Non-Moto section from Moto-Related.
7/17/2016 5:36pm
Reason: New Hampshire is too far north, not a lot of people up there, very rural. Boston market is not NASCAR people, too far to go for New York people. Might as well have a race in Maine.
7/17/2016 8:32pm
Old-Man wrote:
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the...
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events
we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the shit thats going on near there has my Wife thinking we should cancel. Told her then ISIS wins
JW381 wrote:
For real? People aren't going to boring stock car races because of ISIS? Always warm up before stretching that hard. Then again, the average Nascar fan...
For real? People aren't going to boring stock car races because of ISIS? Always warm up before stretching that hard. Then again, the average Nascar fan probably thinks along those same lines, so maybe you're right.
MR. X wrote:
Ouch dude
Maybe not to far of a stretch. I didn't go to the July 4th fireworks in Pittsburgh for that reason. I'm not a scaredy cat but I'm not a city person either. I just didn't want to deal with it.
I have a meeting in Singapore next month. I'm not really worried about that but I will be staying at the Merriot in Singapore and that has me concerned. JW Merriot is the same hotel chain that has gotten bombed twice in Jakarta. I'm not exactly comfortable about the stay. I am going to ask for a room on a very upper level floor.
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Can't remember the last nascar race I watched (and I'm a fan of stock car racing) I scrolled past it and started watching.....WOW the stands aren't...
Can't remember the last nascar race I watched (and I'm a fan of stock car racing) I scrolled past it and started watching.....WOW the stands aren't even half full!

If moto and any other sport wants to survive, they better get creative and figure out what people want!
People are finally coming to their senses. You can watch grass grow for free in your yard.

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7/18/2016 7:48pm
Old-Man wrote:
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the...
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events
we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the shit thats going on near there has my Wife thinking we should cancel. Told her then ISIS wins
JW381 wrote:
For real? People aren't going to boring stock car races because of ISIS? Always warm up before stretching that hard. Then again, the average Nascar fan...
For real? People aren't going to boring stock car races because of ISIS? Always warm up before stretching that hard. Then again, the average Nascar fan probably thinks along those same lines, so maybe you're right.
Read again, Asking if the decline in ALL Sporting events is influenced by ISIS not just Nascar. Like some have mentioned they rethink their activities because of the recent actions and threats.

"Boring Nascar Races" I don't have a problem what people think of Nascar and when I hear/read something like this I know the person saying it doesn't give a shit about the sport to learn more about Chassis,builds and combinations to make a car better than the next. I get it "whats so hard about turning left?"
Go to a track were they let you drive the car, learn more about what your driving then I would take your opinion 100% more serious than I do now.
" the average Nascar fan probably thinks along those same lines"
It used to be a Redneck sport Mash the gas and go! things have certainly changed with time. But Ya, your probably right. If i'm thinking that terrorist could be at any event then i'm more aware not Dumb as your trying to put it.

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7/18/2016 8:14pm
Bristol fall race,their big pull,has been half full for 4 yrs or more.

A few things cause that,

Tickets got to $110 each.
If you got a room near the track in kingsport,Johnson city or Bristol it cost you $300 a nite easy.
Even driving 2 hrs from Knoxville would be $175 to 200 a nite.
Parking on speedway grounds fills up,the yards nearby charge $40 to 80 to park and this goes out a mile easy in ever direction.

Shuttles bring you in but dont run after but just a few paces and the lines are long.

They rode a fad and ran it in the ground. The core fans are still there and about 40k is it.

Hell,they took out 30 to 50 thousand seats at several tracks.

Even the teams got together to try and negotiate hotel rooms because they couldn't afford it.
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hillbilly wrote:
Bristol fall race,their big pull,has been half full for 4 yrs or more. A few things cause that, Tickets got to $110 each. If you got...
Bristol fall race,their big pull,has been half full for 4 yrs or more.

A few things cause that,

Tickets got to $110 each.
If you got a room near the track in kingsport,Johnson city or Bristol it cost you $300 a nite easy.
Even driving 2 hrs from Knoxville would be $175 to 200 a nite.
Parking on speedway grounds fills up,the yards nearby charge $40 to 80 to park and this goes out a mile easy in ever direction.

Shuttles bring you in but dont run after but just a few paces and the lines are long.

They rode a fad and ran it in the ground. The core fans are still there and about 40k is it.

Hell,they took out 30 to 50 thousand seats at several tracks.

Even the teams got together to try and negotiate hotel rooms because they couldn't afford it.
Thats one Track I would like to see especially the Night race. No other track like it.
7/18/2016 9:24pm
I watch 1 race a year, the Bristol night race in August and its not the same now that they re-paved the track. It was the best race of the year when most of the cars were missing fenders and drivers were throwing their helmets at other cars. ..................sad its just not the same.Sad
7/18/2016 9:28pm
Old-Man wrote:
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the...
Think it has anything to do with ISIS? People not wanting to go to events
we have a trip to Italy planned next year and the shit thats going on near there has my Wife thinking we should cancel. Told her then ISIS wins
Women tend to think that way so I would guess that is why your wife would worry but women worry thats what they do. I can honestly say I have never even gave it a second thought and glad you are of the same mind set. Wink
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Reason: New Hampshire is too far north, not a lot of people up there, very rural. Boston market is not NASCAR people, too far to go...
Reason: New Hampshire is too far north, not a lot of people up there, very rural. Boston market is not NASCAR people, too far to go for New York people. Might as well have a race in Maine.
Dude, NH is the definition of Nascar. If Loudon is hurtin to fill the stands then they definitely need to worry.
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Reason: New Hampshire is too far north, not a lot of people up there, very rural. Boston market is not NASCAR people, too far to go...
Reason: New Hampshire is too far north, not a lot of people up there, very rural. Boston market is not NASCAR people, too far to go for New York people. Might as well have a race in Maine.
seth505 wrote:
Dude, NH is the definition of Nascar. If Loudon is hurtin to fill the stands then they definitely need to worry.
Not really a true race fan if he doesn't even realize that the Whelen Modified series is huge up that way and people like Martin Truex came from racing tracks up north.=
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The price to build and support a car is out of control. I remember Dale Sr. talking about the future of the sport back in 1998 ish. You hire the best car builders and some engineers . Spend a ton of money on the car.Then find just an average driver and you can win Daytona. Now I just watch the last 20 laps or so on TV. That when the race starts IMO.
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Indy was empty,Saturday i bet there wasn't 500 people.

Sunday it had to less than 30k,they dont release attendance anymore.

NASCAR needs a new sponsor ,they are asking 1 billion over 10 yrs, 100 million a yr, and has to be 10 yr deal.

Sprint has been paying 50 to 75 million a year they figure.

Nascar says they have several companies in the running, i doubt that.
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7/25/2016 12:01pm
hillbilly, did you go to Bristol when they put dirt on the track?
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hillbilly, did you go to Bristol when they put dirt on the track?
Yeah,that will never happen again because of cleanup.

The best racing I've seen there since concrete is the modified. ,oh ,and the goodys dash cars were excellent.

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Yeah,that will never happen again because of cleanup. The best racing I've seen there since concrete is the modified. ,oh ,and the goodys dash cars were...
Yeah,that will never happen again because of cleanup.

The best racing I've seen there since concrete is the modified. ,oh ,and the goodys dash cars were excellent.

yeah, I bet that was a major job. was good time though. wish it would happen again.

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