MXGP of France - Sunday Discussion

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RG1 6/5/2016 10:50am
6/5/2016 10:50am
Tommy lost his rear brake in both motos. It caused him to DNF the first race and he lost it with 4 laps to go in the second Moto.
Harry Backmon 6/5/2016 11:05am
6/5/2016 11:05am
Just now getting to see the second motos. The "Blue Pig" is looking well. Some great racing and as always love that track!
Harry Backmon 6/5/2016 11:37am
6/5/2016 11:37am
Febvre by 10 seconds. Just imagine if he wasn't on that Blue Pig. He'd be winning every race by a minute.

Ok, seriously now, congratulations Romain! The first moto was awesome. Did anyone think Gajser was going to come in to the 450 ranks and be so dominant?
RichardLoots 6/5/2016 12:41pm
6/5/2016 12:41pm
what was ferrandis thinking after the start of second moto ? Laughing Shocked

look at his line after the start when he pushed Herlings off the track




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Motofinne 6/5/2016 12:46pm
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Yeah that was pretty dirty by Ferrandis. You can(and should, it's called racing.) move over and block lines but that was just way too much in my opinion.
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philG 6/5/2016 1:27pm
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Motofinne wrote:
Yeah that was pretty dirty by Ferrandis. You can(and should, it's called racing.) move over and block lines but that was just way too much in...
Yeah that was pretty dirty by Ferrandis. You can(and should, it's called racing.) move over and block lines but that was just way too much in my opinion.
Herlings did it routinely to Searle , i call it 'taking the advantage'

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vschaik141 6/5/2016 2:03pm
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Everts must have told ferrandis to do this...
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Question 6/5/2016 2:17pm
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I guess he was upset from the start on moto 1 where he had no room either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_9oOpTSOZs

That must have over heated him because he crashed or near crashed at both starts, starting last twice, to finish 6-7 for 5th overall.
RichardLoots 6/5/2016 2:24pm
6/5/2016 2:24pm
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I guess he was upset from the start on moto 1 where he had no room either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_9oOpTSOZs That must have over heated him because he...

I guess he was upset from the start on moto 1 where he had no room either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_9oOpTSOZs

That must have over heated him because he crashed or near crashed at both starts, starting last twice, to finish 6-7 for 5th overall.
yeah , karma is a bitch he
EnvyMedia 6/5/2016 2:44pm
6/5/2016 2:44pm
Ya weird move.. Can't believe you fuck up your own start just to pull that dump shit off, and then nearly crash again Laughing
kaidoddragon 6/5/2016 2:51pm
6/5/2016 2:51pm
Just came back from Saint Jean right now. The races were awesome.

Most impressive thing I saw this week end: Febvre and Gajser's pace. Damn they are on it. There truely were on another planet.
Looked to me that Febvre was the fastest in the corners. But Gajser is winning so much time in the jumps... his scrubs on the little jump after the finish line were really impressive.
Both of them were, in my eyes, clearly faster than Herlings. I was not really Impressed by Jeffrey today. Yes he is fast, but I kind of expected more from him. In the first race, he just took his time cause the track was slippery in some sections, and it was risky to go in attack mode I believe.

Talk to Dakota Alix also. He is a really nice dude. I sure hope the best from him as he might race USGP.
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vschaik141 6/5/2016 3:42pm
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kaidoddragon wrote:
Just came back from Saint Jean right now. The races were awesome. Most impressive thing I saw this week end: Febvre and Gajser's pace. Damn they...
Just came back from Saint Jean right now. The races were awesome.

Most impressive thing I saw this week end: Febvre and Gajser's pace. Damn they are on it. There truely were on another planet.
Looked to me that Febvre was the fastest in the corners. But Gajser is winning so much time in the jumps... his scrubs on the little jump after the finish line were really impressive.
Both of them were, in my eyes, clearly faster than Herlings. I was not really Impressed by Jeffrey today. Yes he is fast, but I kind of expected more from him. In the first race, he just took his time cause the track was slippery in some sections, and it was risky to go in attack mode I believe.

Talk to Dakota Alix also. He is a really nice dude. I sure hope the best from him as he might race USGP.
Sounds like you had a great weekend!
gajser & febvre damn, they on it.
what did you think of the EMX classes? 125 & 250
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vschaik141 6/5/2016 4:10pm
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during the 2nd moto of the mx2 Marc de Reuver had something to say about some of the backmarkers.
they couldn't win a local race. got nothing to do at a GP. (cuz some where holding up the race leaders)

I'd say he's right about that a lot of GPs there's riders out there that just have nothing to do at a GP but for this one i'm not sure toh. 17th rider was 1 down and anyone behind him would've been able to get in that top 20 and score some points (looking at their laptimes) also the dif in laptimes with the race leaders I wouldn't consider to be dangerous
what yall think?
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Question 6/5/2016 5:01pm
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vschaik141 wrote:
during the 2nd moto of the mx2 Marc de Reuver had something to say about some of the backmarkers. they couldn't win a local race. got...
during the 2nd moto of the mx2 Marc de Reuver had something to say about some of the backmarkers.
they couldn't win a local race. got nothing to do at a GP. (cuz some where holding up the race leaders)

I'd say he's right about that a lot of GPs there's riders out there that just have nothing to do at a GP but for this one i'm not sure toh. 17th rider was 1 down and anyone behind him would've been able to get in that top 20 and score some points (looking at their laptimes) also the dif in laptimes with the race leaders I wouldn't consider to be dangerous
what yall think?
Although I tend to agree on the fact that it is ok to limit the number of riders, to avoid too many lappers, I dont think here they were super slow. Couldnt win a local race? I think you meant "they couldnt win a national race" ; because if we look at lap times, last racers in MX1 are about 10 sec a lap slower, in MX2, about 9 seconds. It is big, but still 5 to 10 seconds a lap is not much considering the difference of budget & parts available to privateers.
Factory suspensions: >1 sec a lap
Factory gear box: >1 sec a lap
Factory tire: >1 sec a lap
Weight saving: >1 sec a lap
They still know how to twist the throttle Smile
http://results.mxgp.com/mxgp/standings.aspx
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vschaik141 6/5/2016 5:11pm
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Although I tend to agree on the fact that it is ok to limit the number of riders, to avoid too many lappers, I dont think...
Although I tend to agree on the fact that it is ok to limit the number of riders, to avoid too many lappers, I dont think here they were super slow. Couldnt win a local race? I think you meant "they couldnt win a national race" ; because if we look at lap times, last racers in MX1 are about 10 sec a lap slower, in MX2, about 9 seconds. It is big, but still 5 to 10 seconds a lap is not much considering the difference of budget & parts available to privateers.
Factory suspensions: >1 sec a lap
Factory gear box: >1 sec a lap
Factory tire: >1 sec a lap
Weight saving: >1 sec a lap
They still know how to twist the throttle Smile
http://results.mxgp.com/mxgp/standings.aspx
Those weren't my words. I was watching the races on eurosport 2 with dutch commentary by Marc de Reuver & some other guy. It were his words that some of those riders could not even win a local race. (Club wedstrijd).

I can only agree on what you said, i checked out the laptimes as well before posting
steve.hackler.1 6/5/2016 5:49pm
6/5/2016 5:49pm
Herlings dove into some of the deep rutted inside turns so hard his team has got to check his frame for trueness after every moto. Fun to watch. They usually dont show him alot in first; it was a treat watching him come through the pack. Hes a big boy, really should be on the 450. And 222 put in a great race to salvage the points he did. it aint over.






The Source 6/5/2016 7:21pm
6/5/2016 7:21pm
A DNf or missed race will change point standings quickly, Tony is still in the hunt but Febvre & Tim are in a class of thier own lately.
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bsharkey 6/5/2016 8:58pm
6/5/2016 8:58pm
pretty stoked to see our local boy darian sayanei go 1-1 in emx250 class

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bongobongo 6/5/2016 11:27pm
6/5/2016 11:27pm
philG wrote:
Herlings did it routinely to Searle , i call it 'taking the advantage'

if herlings or cairoli did this to someone else .... they would call it a racing incident
kaidoddragon 6/6/2016 2:14am
6/6/2016 2:14am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2016 2:18am
kaidoddragon wrote:
Just came back from Saint Jean right now. The races were awesome. Most impressive thing I saw this week end: Febvre and Gajser's pace. Damn they...
Just came back from Saint Jean right now. The races were awesome.

Most impressive thing I saw this week end: Febvre and Gajser's pace. Damn they are on it. There truely were on another planet.
Looked to me that Febvre was the fastest in the corners. But Gajser is winning so much time in the jumps... his scrubs on the little jump after the finish line were really impressive.
Both of them were, in my eyes, clearly faster than Herlings. I was not really Impressed by Jeffrey today. Yes he is fast, but I kind of expected more from him. In the first race, he just took his time cause the track was slippery in some sections, and it was risky to go in attack mode I believe.

Talk to Dakota Alix also. He is a really nice dude. I sure hope the best from him as he might race USGP.
vschaik141 wrote:
Sounds like you had a great weekend!
gajser & febvre damn, they on it.
what did you think of the EMX classes? 125 & 250
Great racing from both classes.
EMX125, I think Rubini is the top if the group, as he beat Geerts straight up in race 1. I like what I saw from Goupillon also. He is fast enough to win but has to stay on two wheels.
EMX250, awesome ride from Sanayei. I like his style and the fact that he is giving his all from the first to the last lap. Speedwise, they are far from MX2 class though.

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