new tires needed

I like the new Bridgestone 404s and the 402s a close second. Both last long.

Cygnus doesn't need knobbies.

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A bigwheel 80 (supermini) uses 19" front, 16" rear. Dunlop D739's or Maxxis Maxxcross-IT will be rockhard iron-wear tires.

goofy ass sizing system... really, what[i:28kow0jd] was[/i:28kow0jd] wrong with 4.50x18's and 3.00x21's?

Hey Larry, if you haven't found one yet, there's good conversion charts over on the Maxxis site -

http://www.maxxis.com/Services/motorcyc ... ion_charts

I don't know about for 85s, but Maxxis ITs are great, long wearing tires.

Michelin starcrosses work great on intermediate - hard terrain for 85's.

[quote="WhKnuckle":2o8w4hop]I don't know about for 85s, but Maxxis ITs are great, long wearing tires.[/quote:2o8w4hop]

I second that. Great long-lasting REAR tire. I've used a couple on most of the mx tracks in MI, sand, hardpack, intermediate. It works well in everything great on intermediate terrain. However, I think the front tire sucks. Very skiddish. Pairing IT rear with ST front is better.

A LOT THE 85 RACERS AROUND HERE IN MI USE THE STARCROSSES. BUT THEN AGAIN THEY PITCH THEM AS SOON AS THE SHARP EDGE IS GONE SO I HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG THEY WILL HOLD UP. MY FAV TIRE IS A DUNLOP 756. THEY WORK MOST ANYWHERE I RIDE.

[quote="AdamZ934MX":1qo62g1v]Michelin starcrosses work great on intermediate - hard terrain for 85's.[/quote:1qo62g1v]
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Older son just moved up to 125/250F, rode YZ85's for several years, little brother is on 85's now, and they both love Michelin Starcross, and I love their durability.

We've tried virtually every brand, and we always come back to Michelin.

[quote="NB304":1ayjcsbn]MY FAV TIRE IS A DUNLOP 756. THEY WORK MOST ANYWHERE I RIDE.[/quote:1ayjcsbn]
Those things work well for offroad and loamy MX tracks, but if you have any hardpack they will start breaking knobs like crazy.

[quote="kevlar":3wqcw6be][quote="AdamZ934MX":3wqcw6be]Michelin starcrosses work great on intermediate - hard terrain for 85's.[/quote:3wqcw6be]
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Older son just moved up to 125/250F, rode YZ85's for several years, little brother is on 85's now, and they both love Michelin Starcross, and I love their durability.

We've tried virtually every brand, and we always come back to Michelin.[/quote:3wqcw6be]

X3 we run the michelins on our 85 they hook up great and last long time . I just got a brand spanking new 756 RR for my 450 it was given to me by a local pro rider who comes and rides here . You and that banana are gonna be hurtin for certain next weekend JTom .

michelin starcross ms2 = best tire ever. I ran one on my yz250 all last season (24 races or so) and its still good. Ill turn it around on the rime in a month or 2 and run it till it dies

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X3 we run the michelins on our 85 they hook up great and last long time . I just got a brand spanking new 756 RR for my 450 it was given to me by a local pro rider who comes and rides here . You and that banana are gonna be hurtin for certain next weekend JTom .[/quote:28pgzdug]



You had knobbies last time I was out...and 200cc's....and the home track advantage! I don't recall any "hurtin'"....

For the longest wearing tires, use the Dunlop 952 tires. They are the same design as the original 752 tires that we all used to use but they made the rubber harder. They are designed to last longer. They work well on most conditions except lots of mud. If I'm racing I switch to my Dunlop 773's for soft terrain or my Dunlop 756's for everything else. For long wear and practice, I use my 952's.

The longest wearing tires I've ever had were the Trelleborg tires. They are expensive and a real pain to mount, but they lasted forever.

Can't get 952's for a supermini.

I would suggest Dunlop 756's.

I put on a set of Maxxis on one of my bikes, and, although they do last long, they didn't seem to hook up, even in the groomed soft stuff. Maybe it was just me, but that's the impression I got.