Does having a bike rider trainer make things suspicous?

Edited Date/Time 4/3/2015 7:39pm
I just picked up this book for 1 dollar at a garage sale.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/book-extract-a-clean-break-by-christoph…

When I became part of the pro cycling scene, 95 per cent of professional riders were doping. (In the United States, a study conducted among top athletes showed that three out of four athletes said they would be happy to die before they were 40 if it meant getting an Olympic medal.) I find this disparity between popular opinion and the attitude of sporting champions appalling. I believe top-level sport has been usurped by people who are not necessarily the most talented or the strongest, but are simply the most determined or the most oblivious to danger. Sorcerers' apprentices who pretend to be doctors are then responsible for providing these kamikaze athletes with the physical means to achieve their goals. Although life expectancy is increasing within the general population, it is continuing to fall in cycling.

It is this situation, which is suicidal for the athletes involved and for my sport in the long term, which motivated me to write a book. In 2000, when I was 26, I wrote the first version of this memoir knowing I would be condemned by the peloton. My initial comments were also my testament as a professional, as by that point my situation seemed increasingly precarious, and was perhaps even untenable. I should probably have prefaced my remarks by declaring: ‘I, Christophe Bassons, being of sound mind and judgement...'

Even though the deception carried out during the Armstrong years, when I was the pariah, has since been proven, I am returning at the age of almost 39 to this autobiography with the intention of providing a clinical examination of the cycling milieu.

I have chosen to use the word ‘milieu' because it seems most accurate to me in many of its senses. The peloton acts as a club, a framework for life, an ambience even. In many ways, it also seems to live up to the pejorative definition of the word: a group of individuals living on the margins of the law.

Cycling still offers lessons for life, drawn from city streets and the winding roads of the countryside. Unfortunately, this education is less poetic than it once seemed. Cycling hastened my move towards maturity. It enabled me to have a clear view of my life and what I wanted to do when I was in my twenties, at an age when other youngsters are floundering. But the four years of adversity I spent in the peloton taught me so much more! I saw so many things that I feel there is a lot I can usefully share.

My story can serve as an example. When I say that, please don't take it as boastfulness. I don't mean example in the sense of self-satisfaction in one's own achievements, but in the sense of serving as a lesson or warning. I do not think I should be viewed as a model to follow, a reference point, but simply as a good example. I need to explain what doping means for cycling, how it became not only a physical imperative but also a moral obligation. I have to explain the chain of events that led me to the point where my choice was to dope or to quit. I want to describe the degree of coercion that permeated the professional world, both to the youngsters who are coming into the sport with the duty to change old habits and to the old stagers who had the good fortune to live in healthier times. I want to relate how a tender boy blessed with some talent and a real passion for cycling, to the point where he wanted to make a career of it, found himself caught up in a mechanism shaped not by the toughness of the sport, but by the men within it. I particularly want to detail the steps on the pathway that leads someone to inject himself, not in order to win, but simply to exist within this family.

I want to shed a little more light on the hypocrisy that I have experienced. This is done so that, in future, a kid whose love for the bike leads him into the peloton doesn't end up experiencing the same disappointment I did.

It is for the sake of that boy or girl that I have to speak out.


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4/3/2015 4:04pm
Well, the biking world has made big strides towards cutting out the doping element of the sport, but much like baseball, there is still a very long way to go.

I don't think using bike trainers is suspicious at all.
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4/3/2015 4:10pm
Not any more than having a non-cycling trainer does.
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4/3/2015 4:19pm Edited Date/Time 4/3/2015 4:20pm
GuyB wrote:
Not any more than having a non-cycling trainer does.
I talked to Dr. Galea once (doped A Rod up) and he said Cycling trainers are the more guilty ones because they usually train groups of guys and have connections to the guys that can get them HGH, EPO etc (From when they used it or got it for someone and they buy a lot). He said the sports like Baseball, Golf and sports like that the players are the ones that come to the guys that can get them stuff rather than the trainers. He also said that every single sport at the top level is extremely dirty lol
4/3/2015 4:33pm
After watching that Lance Armstrong documentary, I found it very interesting the lengths Lance went to, to keep his relationship with Micheal Ferrari a secret. Lance knew that just being associated with Ferrari would make people suspicious that he was doping. (The thread title made me think of this.)

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4/3/2015 4:39pm
GuyB wrote:
Not any more than having a non-cycling trainer does.
Flex wrote:
I talked to Dr. Galea once (doped A Rod up) and he said Cycling trainers are the more guilty ones because they usually train groups of...
I talked to Dr. Galea once (doped A Rod up) and he said Cycling trainers are the more guilty ones because they usually train groups of guys and have connections to the guys that can get them HGH, EPO etc (From when they used it or got it for someone and they buy a lot). He said the sports like Baseball, Golf and sports like that the players are the ones that come to the guys that can get them stuff rather than the trainers. He also said that every single sport at the top level is extremely dirty lol
Remember that we have our own A Rod...you may want to make the distinction.

Does that include the top posters here? Is posting on Vital MX a sport?
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4/3/2015 4:41pm
GuyB wrote:
Remember that we have our own A Rod...you may want to make the distinction. Does that include the top posters here? Is posting on Vital MX...
Remember that we have our own A Rod...you may want to make the distinction.

Does that include the top posters here? Is posting on Vital MX a sport?
My bad, Alex Rodriguez.

And LOL maybe so hahahah. I think all trainers now though no matter what sport you come from have access to the exact same thing cycling trainers do..
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4/3/2015 5:08pm
It is definitely suspicious wasatch. They're the best at getting the most out of your body, and history shows that more often then not, it ain't exactly legal.
4/3/2015 5:50pm
I mean, if you know you were subject to testing, wouldnt certain associations(Guilty By Association) make people suspect you're cheating?

Especially if you're winning? Nevermind the fact most of these guys were minibike champs......

Didnt Ryno quit association with Landis for this reason? Or something along those lines?
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4/3/2015 5:57pm
Wow, nice new topic!
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4/3/2015 6:34pm
I think it does , but we shall never know
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4/3/2015 6:36pm
Everyone looks the other way until someone gets in trouble, then everyone starts the finger pointing.
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4/3/2015 7:39pm
GuyB wrote:
Remember that we have our own A Rod...you may want to make the distinction. Does that include the top posters here? Is posting on Vital MX...
Remember that we have our own A Rod...you may want to make the distinction.

Does that include the top posters here? Is posting on Vital MX a sport?
The competitions would be called .......

Long Jump to Conclusions
High Hurdle the Facts to Support your Story
etc....

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