My impressions of MXGP Argentina

hillbilly
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3/30/2015 6:12pm
In my opinion this is his number 1 problem.
Not to say his lines' choice...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon and looks to be slacking. 2.) Setup- His hard headedness as DV described has showed in more ways than one. 3.) Line choices- He's taking awkward angles and the long route around the track most laps.
After the track whooped out from left track marker to right the riders in front of him took the inside almost always. And they looked so slow doing it.

Was that a "built the week before" track or a established one.?
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3/30/2015 6:42pm
Not to say his lines' choice...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon and looks to be slacking. 2.) Setup- His hard headedness as DV described has showed in more ways than one. 3.) Line choices- He's taking awkward angles and the long route around the track most laps.
hillbilly wrote:
After the track whooped out from left track marker to right the riders in front of him took the inside almost always. And they looked so...
After the track whooped out from left track marker to right the riders in front of him took the inside almost always. And they looked so slow doing it.

Was that a "built the week before" track or a established one.?
That track was indeed built the week before.
Crush
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3/30/2015 6:43pm
In my opinion this is his number 1 problem.
Not to say his lines' choice...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon and looks to be slacking. 2.) Setup- His hard headedness as DV described has showed in more ways than one. 3.) Line choices- He's taking awkward angles and the long route around the track most laps.
Have you paid attention to RV throughout his career?

His lines have always been unconventional...
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3/30/2015 6:46pm
Not to say his lines' choice...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon and looks to be slacking. 2.) Setup- His hard headedness as DV described has showed in more ways than one. 3.) Line choices- He's taking awkward angles and the long route around the track most laps.
reded wrote:
Looked like he was losing time yesterday by squaring off corners instead of keeping his speed up and flowing through them. I've never held a Pro...
Looked like he was losing time yesterday by squaring off corners instead of keeping his speed up and flowing through them. I've never held a Pro license so maybe I should STFU but that's how it looked to me.
This is a forum for smucks like us to voice our opinion. Doesn't make it fact what we say. So no. You don't have to shut the fuck up. Lol

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3/30/2015 6:54pm Edited Date/Time 3/30/2015 6:54pm
Not to say his lines' choice...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon and looks to be slacking. 2.) Setup- His hard headedness as DV described has showed in more ways than one. 3.) Line choices- He's taking awkward angles and the long route around the track most laps.
Crush wrote:
Have you paid attention to RV throughout his career?

His lines have always been unconventional...
I've noticed it throughout his career as well. Maybe I'm wrong, but he seemed to be losing time in a few of those corners because of it. I'm just stating my idiotic opinion.
PressPassP
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3/30/2015 7:03pm
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon...
Yep, he has 3 major problems in my opinion that RV has made for himself. 1.) Fitness-He does not look lean and mean like under Aldon and looks to be slacking. 2.) Setup- His hard headedness as DV described has showed in more ways than one. 3.) Line choices- He's taking awkward angles and the long route around the track most laps.
reded wrote:
Looked like he was losing time yesterday by squaring off corners instead of keeping his speed up and flowing through them. I've never held a Pro...
Looked like he was losing time yesterday by squaring off corners instead of keeping his speed up and flowing through them. I've never held a Pro license so maybe I should STFU but that's how it looked to me.
This is a forum for smucks like us to voice our opinion. Doesn't make it fact what we say. So no. You don't have to shut...
This is a forum for smucks like us to voice our opinion. Doesn't make it fact what we say. So no. You don't have to shut the fuck up. Lol
Nagl, Van Horbeek and AC were squaring off too at times I noticed,looking for smoother lines no doubt as it got pretty nasty,the ebb and flow of some guys laptimes may suggest armpump,AC said it affected him in the heat and his times dropped 1-2 seconds for a good few laps,Desalle looked to take a breather too towards the end of the last Moto,then put in a real fast one

Just some observations i hope they make some sense Smile
The Rock
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3/30/2015 7:03pm
Crush wrote:
Have you paid attention to RV throughout his career?

His lines have always been unconventional...
His lines have always been unconventional...

Good call. One year at Unadilla when RV Ramsey Grant and maybe Alessi were involved in this epic dog fight in the 250 class. RV was never shutting off riding much wider lines in the process.
3/30/2015 7:06pm
You did notice that Nagl was running wide and made his passes on the outside then in the sharp left turn he was using a strange squaring off move, looked like he was always losing time in the deep stuff at the bottom but once he hooked up he made up the time, RV wasn't the only one using different lines.
Seamorbutts
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3/30/2015 9:16pm
reded wrote:
Looked like he was losing time yesterday by squaring off corners instead of keeping his speed up and flowing through them. I've never held a Pro...
Looked like he was losing time yesterday by squaring off corners instead of keeping his speed up and flowing through them. I've never held a Pro license so maybe I should STFU but that's how it looked to me.
This is a forum for smucks like us to voice our opinion. Doesn't make it fact what we say. So no. You don't have to shut...
This is a forum for smucks like us to voice our opinion. Doesn't make it fact what we say. So no. You don't have to shut the fuck up. Lol
PressPassP wrote:
Nagl, Van Horbeek and AC were squaring off too at times I noticed,looking for smoother lines no doubt as it got pretty nasty,the ebb and flow...
Nagl, Van Horbeek and AC were squaring off too at times I noticed,looking for smoother lines no doubt as it got pretty nasty,the ebb and flow of some guys laptimes may suggest armpump,AC said it affected him in the heat and his times dropped 1-2 seconds for a good few laps,Desalle looked to take a breather too towards the end of the last Moto,then put in a real fast one

Just some observations i hope they make some sense Smile
Nah man, It makes perfect sense. It was a kind of insightful really. Betcha you didn't think you had it in you. Lol
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3/30/2015 9:33pm
A good bit of the time he was within 6 inches of going off the track. Reminded me of some of the single-track we have up here in the mountains.. Manastash, taneum, etc.

Is he searching for a smooth line?

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