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I think it's obvious to anyone with a brain that motocross is much more dangerous than riding in a car.
We should take a simple poll of present or past racers on here and see how many of us have been badly injured (broken bones or worse) on a dirt bike and how many have been badly injured while riding in a car. I don't care what your statistics say, my brain provides the answer for me.
Btw....stats are only as good as the info they are based on.
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Motorcycle's, I do.
A great day on a motorcycle is what life is all about.
People get married everyday, that is REALLY dangerous,lol. Thankfully my wife is sane.
The time it gets very grey is when it is kids...that is tough. Some have the need for speed, it has to be quenched. Probably the safest place is a track.
I just saw a photo of Tyler racing from Thursday (above), presumably in the moto where he crashed. Stuff like that is tough for me to look at. It’s so hard not to think, “Man, if he just didn’t line up for that moto…” It’s enough to make you not want to ride a dirtbike. But then, where does that mentality stop? At what point do you start thinking like that and look up and realize you haven’t left your house in four weeks because it’s the safest way to live? Motocross is dangerous, no matter what. I know that there is no way to ease the heartbreak and hardship the Hoeft family is experiencing right now, and I am not even going to try to. All I will say is, no matter what happens, I am sure that Tyler Hoeft was happy riding his dirtbike, much happier than kids who grew up with their parents putting floaties and helmets on them when they got into an inflatable pool. Every day in life should be a roll of the dice, to some degree, if you are truly living.
I’ve spoken to a lot of people in the last day who use the “It just isn’t worth it” argument, and get kind of frustrated because that makes no sense to me. What isn’t worth it? I am not saying that a kid’s life is worth risking for motocross; all I am saying is that there is so much out of our control, to argue that racing a dirtbike isn’t worth it is to say that life would be better spent sitting on the couch, waiting comfortably for death. Tyler Hoeft doing something that he loved, that he was passionate about, and was damn good at was definitely worth a hell of a lot to him. Tyler’s crash was on a standard jump, and was a horrible freak occurrence. To argue whether this is worth it or not is to say there is a credible chance that he could have seen some scenario where this was coming, which is idiotic. It would be foolish to think that anyone who has ever swung a leg over a bike could have seen that coming. Don’t say “motocross isn’t worth it”.
I see more and more people coming out of the woodwork saying that amateur motocross is too dangerous now, that the tracks are too gnarly and the bikes are too fast. I will say that I don’t think there is any reason that a kid should ride a 450. Honestly, if you weigh under 200 pounds and are not a professional, you do not need a 450, straight up. I’m not talking about Tyler Hoeft right now, because I think he was riding a 250. This is just an observation on the state of amateur motocross. More and more kids are coming up in the ranks with unbelievable speed, but regularly taking unbelievable crashes, too. Amateur motocross now has a “just twist it” mentality that I don’t think it ever had – parents and training facilities are more often encouraging speed over technique, which is not the way to do it. Proper technique will always translate into speed in the long run, but such is not always true vice-versa. And while I hate two-stroke nazis, I will say that it takes a lot more technique to ride a two-stroke 250 than a four-stroke 250. But proper technique allows riders to stay out of trouble more often on the track, and ultimately leads to fewer crashes. Some people might argue against my opinion there, and they are stupid. There will always be forces out of our control working on the track; minimizing their effect is the only thing we can do.
Again, that last paragraph was in no way directed toward Tyler Hoeft or family. From what I could tell, Tyler is a great rider with great technique, like his brother. My relentless condolences and support to them in this, the hardest time of their lives. Nothing would make me happier than to see him pull through this. Eazy out.
99.9% of boys racing will NEVER earn a cent. So calling it a "career" is a joke.
The "risk" should be moderated by not riding over your own limits. The "reward" should be the fun.
Any Child dying in an accident or at MX is one too much!
I am a father of 2 and my son starts riding MX he likes it no he loves it.
But I only let him ride on tracks without doubles and triples!
He likes to jump any jump.
I
f you don't like it or not there is something in between.
There is not such thing safety in whatever you do.
But we can minimize the risk!
And if I see those stupid doubles and triples with huge distances and steep edges I don't let him ride it.
Even more I never show up on that track again!
This is so absurd acting like a MX Professional as an amateur not being remotely capable handling the entire potential of a bike. It is not the bike its us who are dangerous!
Switch on your brain during riding,
I see this so often on practice tracks that I am about having a physical discussion with those stupid Assholes! Sorry for the hard words.
What I mean:
A scenario from last week. I was riding on a Track and a guy was in front of me pinning it on straights like Dungey and in corners like a snail! So I passed him in the corner and he pulled the throttle at the end of the corner like an idiot and cutting my line. Just to prevent that I pass him. If he would not had left the track immediately I would have send him in the woods in the next corner or hitting his stupid face.
Saw him later on the parking lot and this asshole told me hey that's MX that's racing.
Those Assholes make tracks dangerous because they ask for more spectacular jumps.
When we ride during practice that should not be!
If it is a race it could be but on a Sunday afternoon no way!
And by the way that asshole was not even wearing gloves!
But to answer your question yes I do, all the time. Not to say you are a ignorant person who tosses the kids in the back of the truck on your way to pick up the moonshine, but there is a good chance you are.
Just kidding! Keyboard had me worked up yesterday
Risk= involving exposure to danger
We are exposed to this everyday of our lives one way or another, driving to work, flying, parachuting, racing, or playing in my neighbors yard evidently!
Reward= a thing given in recognition ones service, effort, or achievement
Driving to work=get there faster than walking, flying= get there faster than driving, parachuting= thrill of knowing you are much crazier than you neighbor, racing= winning purse money, trophies, spending time with family, playing in neighbors yard= Sorry can't think of any reward other than those protective helmets!
My point is most of us Risk something everyday for a Reward, some of us are just willing to Risk more than others. That's what make us all different and us all HUMAN! Trust me I have had a talk with my son about hanging this up and calling it quits but the truth is he loves it, and to him he is not truly living without this fix. He doesn't drink or do drugs he is addicted to the adrenaline rush of his motorcycle. I pray for him everyday, trust me, as a parent you worry. I love him and support him anyway I can.
By the way I heard about the Heoft family and my thoughts and prayers go out to them.
Jeff Zimmer
It's pushing the edge all the time and racing traffic that gets you hurt
(For the most part)
Pit Row
To the guys that have said find a new sport. You're right, too. I'm definitely not cut out to be a "mini-dad" and I know that. I'm also aware enough to realize that my involvement (or lack thereof) in the sport is not a loss to anyone. The sport won't change one bit because of my opinion and/or involvement at the enthusiast level (nor should it). For now, i'll just stick to being a fan and following the sport as close as I can because I do love the sport and want to see it thrive.
I ride/race and so do my boys. We use the terms risk/reward all the time in reference to MX. My older boy learned it fristhand after trying a "big" jump indoors and breaking his lower leg. He wanted to be the first guy to try it & tried to explain that he hit bigger, better stuff outdoors all the time and if he got hurt it wouldn't be worth it. He tried anyway and was off the bike for a couple months....................It's an almost mathematical ratio we do. If you are going to do something risky it should be rewarding in proportion..........
The risks were just as abundant with numerous broken bones, surgeries, concussions, bikes/parts breaking, etc.
As the father of a 1.5 year old son, I already have a CRF50 for him when he grows a bit older but I am VERY hesitant about ever taking him to a track to ride. I'm most likely going to just get him riding in the open areas out here and grow that into some fun trail rides. I just have that feeling that he's going to get bit by the same adrenaline bug I did and ending up wanting to race at some point. I guess if I can ingrain the thought of fast but in total control is good enough then he will have fun regardless if he's 1st place or last.
I hope he finds playing golf with me more enjoyable and can transform it into something ideal like a college scholarship.
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