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Maybe we can share the ways we play. I mostly do copy stuff (99%). But, gotta get into doing my own thing, as I'm starting to play with a drummer down the street, and we need to make our own music.
Anyways, I only learned bar chords and open chords, and I've done everything by ear since. I can sorta read music, although I couldn't rattle off the notes for a minor scale by memory; I'd have to pluck my way through it. I've mostly used pattern recognition on the fretboard for leads, and if you play an A or an E, I know the basics of where to go to find a solo for it.
So, anyone here copy Black Sabbath? For their first album (and maybe for later ones), does Iommi tune down a 1/2? It seems to me he did.
Also, I still have the goal to learn Crushing Day by Satriani. Anyone here know how to play that?
...my fingers are killing me from jamming yesterday...Cygnus, you should bring your bass up here.
Anyways, I only learned bar chords and open chords, and I've done everything by ear since. I can sorta read music, although I couldn't rattle off the notes for a minor scale by memory; I'd have to pluck my way through it. I've mostly used pattern recognition on the fretboard for leads, and if you play an A or an E, I know the basics of where to go to find a solo for it.
So, anyone here copy Black Sabbath? For their first album (and maybe for later ones), does Iommi tune down a 1/2? It seems to me he did.
Also, I still have the goal to learn Crushing Day by Satriani. Anyone here know how to play that?
...my fingers are killing me from jamming yesterday...Cygnus, you should bring your bass up here.
tony used the following tunings.
the songs from black sabbath, paranoid, technical ecstasy, never say die and mob rules are all in standard tuning.
masters of reality has mulitple tunings from standard to a whole step down, to one and a half steps.
vol 4, sabbath bloody sabbath and sabatoge are all tuned down a step and a half.
and finally we get to heaven and hell were he's just tuning down a half step!
so as you can see he was sort of all over the place, i was surprised that he has so much in standard tuning becuase he smushed the tips of his fret hand fingers with a press literallly the last afternoon on the job before he was to quit and pursue music full time.
the story goes, he came home for lunch, wasn't going back to work but his mom talked him into it and the accident happened.
i've read him say that the slack tunings were easier on his fingers.
hope this helps,
Try the intro of it. I was thinking my guitar's out of whack, but I match AC/DC and BTO with this tune, and I'm pretty sure AC/DC's tuned correctly.
And,
Crap, actually, it looks like he's got all strings choked off, instead of playing with an open.
Nevermind... :-D
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I played it like he did, and it works pretty well. For me, the open string made it a bit easier, but, no biggy. I have more control on cutting off the note without the open technique. Thanks for your info.
Now, I gotta go get new strings for my beast. I had the old Stevie Ray - gauge strings on there from years ago, and since I haven't played a lot, I've worn holes in my fingers. I gotten lighten it up a bit until I can build up the calluses. Off to Guitar Center...haven't been there in years.
They can fix any twangy strat . When are you guys gonna be jammin next ?
I will start looking for an amp. My little practice amp won't cut it.
I think we might even jam tonight, if I can tape up my fingertips good enough. I have a 60 watt Crate you're welcome to use. Dunno how it sounds behind a bass. But, it cranks pretty good.
Gimme a call.
With all the YouTubes, it's all laid out for you. Shit, you can even watch and see the exact finger positions on everything. Just figure out the bass and that will tell you what key a song is in. Then figure out a few melodic notes on top. If you know any theory at all there are only so many choices as there isn't a whole lot of atonal stuff going on in rock.
Well ... at least not intentionally atonal.
I always try to practice a mix of existing stuff as well as try to explore my own new stuff. But you really should learn some theory so that you're not flying blind. Then you will have a thousand more options available to you. You should know what every chord you are playing is ... and where it can go. Just force yourself to deconstruct each chord and figure out what type of chord it is and how it fits into tonal key centers.
Unfortunately, most guitarists just play the instrument based on visual patterns of scales and chords on the fretboard and don't really go beyond that. You can still get really good that way, but you're always going to be limited.
Also, a cheap keyboard ... just enough to be able to play chords on, can help as the keyboard layout makes it much easier to see what is going on as far as chord construction, intervals, modulating to other keys, etc.
Tabs can be really useful too but so many of the tab sites have been shut down. ( Yeah, I know, tabs are lazy but sometimes I don't feel like spending the time to analyze and figure out stuff )
We should all start a tabs thread and swap tabs of stuff that you can't find anymore. Anyone have a big collection of tabs? I got back into guitar just recently ... just in time to see all the sites go away.
I know alot of people that hate tabs, but they are a great learning tool.
This is going to be a great thread! Thanks for starting it.
Oh, I've already written a country western tune...which really mocks the urban cowboy.
I also have some basic licks that I've messed around with. IMO, good songs are built from the heart and not so much the mind (like theory), although I don't doubt that a lot of the big players knew theory (Hendrix, Page, etc.).
if your serious about classical guitar you can play this song, it's a staple for all guitarist in the genre. anyway, i don't have the desire to put in the time to learn it, but here is a modern day legend playing it, enjoy.
I've always wanted to learn this one:
Pit Row
I can get a nice harpsichord effect on plucked chords when my strings are new and I use a metal pick.
I did a quick look at YouTube and found a piece I had to do for a recital once, although this guy mangles it by trying to play it too fast and flubbing some parts. I remember I always liked the bluesy bass line on it.
BTW - it's actually Op. 26 ( Six Caprices, No. 4, Matteo Carcassi ) and not Op. 25.
1. In the Court of the Crimson King
2. In the Wake of Poseidon
3. Cirkus
4. Islands
post 'em up please.
I've seen what little there is now but maybe one of you grabbed some stuff back a few years ago? Fripp was / is an amazing accoustic player. Very original lines and chords.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SEULZIHru0
a legend among any guitar player and any musician for that matter.
mark knopfler, nuff said! one of my all time favorites.....you hvae to click, it won't let you embed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVwaX3Lyf7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGlqSURRww&feature=related
Good shit, right there.
And for you guys that want to fix a twangy Strat, don't.
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Anyone understand the circle of fifths? A buddy of mine told me that technique of learning simplifies things big-time. If you know it, post your version, and help out a fellow American who's down on his luck...
I wanna grow up to be Slash...
...or a fire truck. Can't decide which.
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