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I know this site has beat this to a pulp but Showtime is airing the Lance Armstrong: Stop at Nothing documentary. I'd heard several people say that he "ruined people's lives". I guess I didn't realize the extent that he went to cover up his cheating and to what degree he was cheating while forcing everyone else on his team to cheat. And to use cancer as a crutch through the whole thing takes it to yet another low.
I hate to say, but I was one of the guys that doubted that he cheated when it was going on.
My only question is, why isn't he in prison? I'd throw his name in with Bernie Madoff and Jerry Sandusky.
If you get a chance to watch the documentary, it's rather educational about how that whole fiasco went down.
I hate to say, but I was one of the guys that doubted that he cheated when it was going on.
My only question is, why isn't he in prison? I'd throw his name in with Bernie Madoff and Jerry Sandusky.
If you get a chance to watch the documentary, it's rather educational about how that whole fiasco went down.
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I would think if the sport was dirty back then, and it has been cleaned up, that the speeds would have slowed down or even the race itself would have to be changed.
Then he goes on to say how "nobody would give him a chance".
He was just so consistent, persistent and damning with his denial it was difficult to believe he was doping to the general public.
Like I said, I didn't realize how intricate his scandal was until I saw that documentary. I imagine it's only gotten more convoluted and more difficult to detect.
Yes "The Secret Race" is a great read and you can't help but feel sorry for Tyler H. for becoming a victim of the culture, just like Paul Kimmage who wrote "Rough Ride" and was also a victim of PEDs. (Kimmage was also the journalist who called Armstrong cycling's cancer to his face in the press conference and got a real battering here).
Despite ALL of the things that have been revealed, I still think Armstrong's achievements were super-human. It's just a shame he destroyed so many other careers doing it.
If he was the only one using that would be bad, mmk. But every rider that was on the podium during LA's 7 wins has been busted in some way for PEDs. Since he retired, 2 winners have been busted/suspended. One a repeat winner.
This tells me that cycling isn't clean, and most likely everyone in the peleton is using something.
Assuming LA was clean as he said he was, and beating riders who were using, I'm not naive enough the think he wasn't using as well. It was more of a "belief in out cycling hero" kind of thing. That was probably true for a lot of LA fans.
I guess what I'm saying is that since everyone was doing it, that made it ok. I'm still a fan of his cycling ability. The man, not so much.
I don't understand how WADA delegates penalties. You say that TDF winners have tested positive and got suspended. If PED's are so prevalent in a sport, it seems like the organizers really needs to start issuing life bans on racing if they are busted with PED's. I say the organizers are as guilty as the guys sticking needles in their arm.
I follow your logic by saying to just allow it. I don't agree with it but we can agree to disagree.
I almost didn't compare LA to Madoff or Sandusky, but my comparison is that they all had the same mentality. Just because Lance didn't cause the amount of damage the other two did, I believe he would have taken as much money as Madoff and screwed up more peoples lives like Sandusky had the opportunity presented itself. The title Stop at Nothing is perfect for the documentary.
I'd prefer there be no cheating or boosting of any type. But I also believe that if you aren't looking for an advantage you don't want to win bad enough. That advantage isn't necessarily cheating. It could be simply training longer than the other guys.
I didn't say TdF winners, but every other 2nd and 3rd place finisher has had PED issues, Now we know LA was also one of them. If memory serves, since Lance's last win, only the most recent winner hasn't been in trouble that I know of. If you want stage races, it's really easy to tell when I guy boosts from one day to the next.
The idea of a lifetime ban is a good one, but I doubt organizations have the balls to get rid of their biggest stars.
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