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Someone from Wada or Usada and asked point blank,
Who are you going to test?
Whos on your radar?
and why?
And when? Before, during, after a race Or all 3?
And where?
Porta pottie, motorhome, the medical trailer or behind the box van?
Or who by coughbullshitcough "random" by what method? Clothespins, drawing straws, pick a number between 1 and 1000?
Or do they pick a guy by performance, fade, how he looks after a race, spent, not tired, not even coming to a race, recovering from an injury, ran out of gas and carried his bike back to the pits and picks up his workout that got cut short on Wednesday, in the hot sun to boot?
Or do they just say, test the winner? Or pick a race and test all 22 or 40 in the main or motos?
Surely there is a method to the madness.
I know who Id test first and why. Its not who you think.
Who you guys got?
This is a big topic on a couple workout boards. Their thoughts are pretty interesting.
Who are you going to test?
Whos on your radar?
and why?
And when? Before, during, after a race Or all 3?
And where?
Porta pottie, motorhome, the medical trailer or behind the box van?
Or who by coughbullshitcough "random" by what method? Clothespins, drawing straws, pick a number between 1 and 1000?
Or do they pick a guy by performance, fade, how he looks after a race, spent, not tired, not even coming to a race, recovering from an injury, ran out of gas and carried his bike back to the pits and picks up his workout that got cut short on Wednesday, in the hot sun to boot?
Or do they just say, test the winner? Or pick a race and test all 22 or 40 in the main or motos?
Surely there is a method to the madness.
I know who Id test first and why. Its not who you think.
Who you guys got?
This is a big topic on a couple workout boards. Their thoughts are pretty interesting.
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And you cant just sign up on these boards.
And not moto boards. A few on here will understand why.
But it makes no sense.
Why would they tell you their way of doing things? Especially in a manner that would allow people who are cheating to gain in advantage.
I'm sure they have their methods but I doubt they would go into detail just for the simple fact of trying to keep everyone honest.
And not to mention, after a few of these tests, I'm sure the riders will have it figured out. Like in other sports. So the first round or two that they are testing at will truly be "random"
Thats for telling them where you are.
Let me say it in a way you can understand. If you could have any free car on the lot....your random choice isnt random.
Youre going to sort it by color/options/style etc.
So random has to be chosen... somehow......someway... they have to decide who to pick.
How and why are they going to pick someone? How and why are they going to single out one guy?
Or multiple guys?
And who would you pick? I Know who Id pick.
In-Competition Testing Selection
In-Competition testing plans are primarily developed by coordinating with each National Governing Body (NG
An example of how athletes would be selected for in competition or event testing could be: Placed finishers, such as the top three finishers and randomly selected athletes, such as 5th, 7th, 12th, 18th, 19th, etc.
Now, before you ask the next question, they are not going to publish their random testing protocols and aren't gong to disclose them to the media either.
In statistics, a simple random sample is a subset of individuals (a sample) chosen from a larger set (a population). Each individual is chosen randomly and entirely by chance, such that each individual has the same probability of being chosen at any stage during the sampling process, and each subset of k individuals has the same probability of being chosen for the sample as any other subset of k individuals.[1] This process and technique is known as simple random sampling, and should not be confused with systematic random sampling. A simple random sample is an unbiased surveying technique.
and
Randomization is the process of making something random; this means:
Generating a random permutation of a sequence (such as when shuffling cards).
Selecting a random sample of a population (important in statistical sampling).
Allocating experimental units via random assignment to a treatment or control condition.
Generating random numbers: see Random number generation.
Transforming a data stream (such as when using a scrambler in telecommunications).
Randomization is not haphazard. Instead, a random process is a sequence of random variables describing a process whose outcomes do not follow a deterministic pattern, but follow an evolution described by probability distributions. For example, a random sample of individuals from a population refers to a sample where every individual has a known probability of being sampled. This would be contrasted with nonprobability sampling where arbitrary individuals are selected.
have fun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomization
I dont think YOU understand what random means.
Edit: See Klootzak and GrapeApe's posts.
Why did they just bust than NFL guy for Clomid?
Clomid. Thats kind of funny in the grand scheme of Peds...
But hey, its got its use.
Ive never heard of the NFL guy so for some reason he was picked.
Why not a more well known name?
Random is not just random. Unless its grab a straw and someone gets unlucky its not really random.
Do you even know their testing policy?
Why did they test him? Because he led the sacks?
Why didnt they pick a guy trying to get that good?
You just proved its not random.
Youre saying he was picked based on his performance.
Pit Row
You gave a specific reason why you think that guy was tested.
They can and will be tested more if they are in the "intervention stage" if they have had previous positive tests. Also, their contracts and stipulate how many tests they will receive a year if they have had previous issues with positive tests. The club has to pay for the tests and they still follow the NFLPA protocols.
You posted his stats and his performance. Thats not random.
I didnt know a single thing about the guy.. I asked why was he chosen and you posted his stats.
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