RV and his real place in the books....

Whoops_Blitzer 5/4/2014 6:18pm
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4 in a row sweetheart... Woohoo
What are you doing, man? The first commenter said JS only wins titles when RV doesn't race.

The second commenter said that that's not true, look at 2009, successfully countering his point.

Then you said what you said and called him a sweetheart. Are you trying to counter something? What are you doing?
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this debate will never be settled
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Hey, don't get up on your hind legs with me pal,.. I'm just stating the facts...
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Facts are twice the titles and close to the same wins in 1/2 the time...

They're both awesome in their own ways
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But history will tell what really happened right?...
Yeah, but will you be able to read the history book when it comes out?

Fact is, people discredit RV because he has no where near the flash or style of James.. it's just business with Villopoto, but business is goodSmile

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Big Lenny 5/4/2014 6:29pm
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Yeah, but will you be able to read the history book when it comes out? Fact is, people discredit RV because he has no where near...
Yeah, but will you be able to read the history book when it comes out?

Fact is, people discredit RV because he has no where near the flash or style of James.. it's just business with Villopoto, but business is goodSmile
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"they succeeded only when RC or RV we're not at the gate" Guess you forgot about 2009 when James had 11 wins and the C'ship against...
"they succeeded only when RC or RV we're not at the gate"

Guess you forgot about 2009 when James had 11 wins and the C'ship against RV!Whistling
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4 in a row sweetheart... Woohoo
I just knew it! Outsider, Zook, Jeffro, RV, and Uncle!

Queer eye for the straight guy reunion!Kissing j/k, but this photo is kinda creepy!Sick

Whoops_Blitzer 5/4/2014 6:29pm
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That's right, I forgot about that one. Was it RV's rookie year? This is not a Stewart bashing-session, just a review of the facts. Yes, James...
That's right, I forgot about that one. Was it RV's rookie year?

This is not a Stewart bashing-session, just a review of the facts. Yes, James had some unfortunate issues this season, just as every racer has unexpected events try and derail their seasons. Minimizing bad situations plays just as big a role as maximizing opportunities. The mental aspect of racing can take its toll on the unprepared, and we've seen ludicrously fast riders fall victim to the sport's brutal pace and schedule. It's what separates champions from also-rans.
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If RV had half the issues James or any other rider had over a series, we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we?...
Hey, if RV had dented his pipe on Mike Alessi's downed bike and gotten lapped twice while he was in the pits, RV would've minimized the damage, OK? HE JUST WOULD HAVE!!
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Big Lenny 5/4/2014 6:32pm
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Hey, if RV had dented his pipe on Mike Alessi's downed bike and gotten lapped twice while he was in the pits, RV would've minimized the...
Hey, if RV had dented his pipe on Mike Alessi's downed bike and gotten lapped twice while he was in the pits, RV would've minimized the damage, OK? HE JUST WOULD HAVE!!
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rcm406 5/4/2014 6:33pm
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4 in a row sweetheart... Woohoo
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What are you doing, man? The first commenter said JS only wins titles when RV doesn't race. The second commenter said that that's not true, look...
What are you doing, man? The first commenter said JS only wins titles when RV doesn't race.

The second commenter said that that's not true, look at 2009, successfully countering his point.

Then you said what you said and called him a sweetheart. Are you trying to counter something? What are you doing?
Laughing Outsider rode the short bus to school, uh, or he may still be riding it!Woohoo
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^^Sing it with me Len!! Laughing
Whoops_Blitzer 5/4/2014 6:52pm
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What truth are you interested in? Here you go. Record books record the results. History books record the stories. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your point...
What truth are you interested in?

Here you go.

Record books record the results.

History books record the stories.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your point of view, there aren't really history books for moto.
That is why guys like me are so important to have around. If we're not here, who's gonna remind everyone that championships aren't everything?

If a young fan looks at the 2006 SX series and sees RC as the champ, he's gonna believe that RC that year was the best Supercross rider alive, which is inaccurate. That's where I come in, and save the day. I take my role as an educator very seriously.
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DV-67 5/4/2014 6:53pm
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Yeah.....this season he gave him a run. Other seasons not so much. We've seen DM18 and Reed both step up and put it to RV on...
Yeah.....this season he gave him a run. Other seasons not so much. We've seen DM18 and Reed both step up and put it to RV on certain times as well........but at the end of the season RV usually always gets the title. James got beat in the O/A points by RV and RD just like I said he would. Only this time we got a rookie that beat him and sits in 3rd.

And if " Giving him a run "....means finishing 96 friggin' points back?........I would hate to see what a bad run would be.
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I thought you are a fan of all the racers? Yet here you are bashing one of them again. I used to think you were a...
I thought you are a fan of all the racers? Yet here you are bashing one of them again. I used to think you were a pretty level headed poster but lately not so much.
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I'm not bashing anyone.....just posted facts. Don't like it....don't fucking read it.
Thanks for proving my point. Smile
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^^Sing it with me Len!! Laughing
Here's all you...Laughing

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Big Lenny 5/4/2014 6:56pm
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That is why guys like me are so important to have around. If we're not here, who's gonna remind everyone that championships aren't everything? If a...
That is why guys like me are so important to have around. If we're not here, who's gonna remind everyone that championships aren't everything?

If a young fan looks at the 2006 SX series and sees RC as the champ, he's gonna believe that RC that year was the best Supercross rider alive, which is inaccurate. That's where I come in, and save the day. I take my role as an educator very seriously.
Oops...Exactly what I've been telling them for years..Preach Brother...Laughing
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Mikkis wrote:
Mc 7c 72w
Rc 5c 48w
Rv 4c 41w
Js 2c 50w
Cr 2c 43w


For me, its pretty clear.
How about S.Everts 10c 101w
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That is a completely nonsensical statement and I don't have time to worry about your nonsense. Either way, it's not [i]my history[/i] or [i]my facts[/i]. Those...
That is a completely nonsensical statement and I don't have time to worry about your nonsense.

Either way, it's not my history or my facts. Those are just what they are. If anyone skews events around here buddy, it's you.
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len is a master skewer.. actual results mean nothing to him, only what could have been.. he skewed his dumb ass bet with huck to rope...
len is a master skewer..

actual results mean nothing to him, only what could have been..

he skewed his dumb ass bet with huck to rope in suckers to help him pay off his loss..

who the fuck makes a gambling bet then accepts charity from others to pay it off for him...

cat like that just oozing with integrity..
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My friends are what they are, my friends, one day I will laugh at you, believe that...
but you will not laugh at me today, so when is this day of which you speak, how far in the future are we talking?

just let me know when that day arrives, I wouldn't want to deprive you of your richly deserved satisfaction of laughing at me from afar..
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but you will not laugh at me today, so when is this day of which you speak, how far in the future are we talking? just...
but you will not laugh at me today, so when is this day of which you speak, how far in the future are we talking?

just let me know when that day arrives, I wouldn't want to deprive you of your richly deserved satisfaction of laughing at me from afar..
Oh it's comin' and everybody will be there to see it...

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^^Sing it with me Len!! Laughing
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Here's all you...Laughing

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That's right, I forgot about that one. Was it RV's rookie year? This is not a Stewart bashing-session, just a review of the facts. Yes, James...
That's right, I forgot about that one. Was it RV's rookie year?

This is not a Stewart bashing-session, just a review of the facts. Yes, James had some unfortunate issues this season, just as every racer has unexpected events try and derail their seasons. Minimizing bad situations plays just as big a role as maximizing opportunities. The mental aspect of racing can take its toll on the unprepared, and we've seen ludicrously fast riders fall victim to the sport's brutal pace and schedule. It's what separates champions from also-rans.
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If RV had half the issues James or any other rider had over a series, we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we?...
But he didn't. Even if James is given 50 points for mechanicals and deduct 6 from RV, the results are the same. I doubt the DNF excuses secured JS a championship bonus.

Personally I'd rather watch James ride 8 days a week over Ryan. James also has a fun-loving personality and style, a contrast to RV's workman-like attitude. He the kind of guy we need promoting and leading the sport, for a multitude of reasons.

However...We live in a results-oriented society where "what-ifs" and "yeah, buts" have little value. James' charisma, speed, and style secures him a ride each season. Eyes turn to #7 regardless of his position on the track or in the standing, and it's easy to see why he has legions of devoted fans. But the hypothetical SX championships have grown weary with the masses, and after another year of fantastically disappointing results, we're ready to move on.
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Big Lenny 5/4/2014 7:11pm
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But he didn't. Even if James is given 50 points for mechanicals and deduct 6 from RV, the results are the same. I doubt the DNF...
But he didn't. Even if James is given 50 points for mechanicals and deduct 6 from RV, the results are the same. I doubt the DNF excuses secured JS a championship bonus.

Personally I'd rather watch James ride 8 days a week over Ryan. James also has a fun-loving personality and style, a contrast to RV's workman-like attitude. He the kind of guy we need promoting and leading the sport, for a multitude of reasons.

However...We live in a results-oriented society where "what-ifs" and "yeah, buts" have little value. James' charisma, speed, and style secures him a ride each season. Eyes turn to #7 regardless of his position on the track or in the standing, and it's easy to see why he has legions of devoted fans. But the hypothetical SX championships have grown weary with the masses, and after another year of fantastically disappointing results, we're ready to move on.
50 points doesn't cover James' DNF's this season..Duh...
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Oops...Exactly what I've been telling them for years..Preach Brother...Laughing
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some of you just can't seem to accept how good RV is. As to whether he loves it or not any longer...who knows?

I can master a video game and still be bored with it. Likewise, RV may be bored but he can still win.
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Stewart's fantard club definition of " Shit luck :

Riding over your head until you wad your brains out ever other race. Bouncing off other riders like a ping-pong ball and break your bike.

Lets chalk it all up to " Shit luck "......yeah that's it. Haha!

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Dumb ass's Woohoo Woohoo Silly Silly
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Haters gonna hate, its what they do. They are easy to pick out cause they do it their entire posting career.
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Hey Jeffro if you could go as fast as James would you be riding over your head?...
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Hey Jeffro if you could go as fast as James would you be riding over your head?...
LOL!
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I feel RV is one of the top 2 greatest ever. The reason.....his competition.....I hold Ricky in the number on e spot but I am unsure...
I feel RV is one of the top 2 greatest ever. The reason.....his competition.....I hold Ricky in the number on e spot but I am unsure TBH.Ricky was unquestionably the most winning rider overall and outdoors he was a beast but I don't think he dealt with the level of competition RV has. Ricky was a beast and worked hard for everything but he got a jump start on everyone with his training. His competition wasn't training like RVs comp trains.......ricky beat a lot more talent than athletes. I believe RV beat talent and athletes. MC is the same.....he won and is indisputable as far as sx wins go but who did he really beat? He had years where he could rack u wins with no competition the whole time besides Emig and Lusk.RVs whole career has revolved around him smoking elite talent and elite athletes at the same time.I think his run at the 07 MXDN was the best ride ever by anyone anywhere.....Ricky beat Stewart but Stewart beat himself.....James wasn't training like he has recently. He was all balls but win or crash. I think the James RV is racing is on another level.......ah.....I'm gonna catch schist for this one but here goes.......
your list is easy...it's all about championships so why include wins?

just for hypothetical let's say RV retires now, and Stewart sticks around 3 more years and picks up say 15-18 more wins without any championships(very possible)...at what point would you(or anyone) start to question the TITLES only scenario...?

just stating an IF scenario for the sake of the theory

your list is accurate, but js7 is the only one who people will argue about being close to RV...

and if championships are all equal then Justin Bogle is now just as good a rider as Chad Reed was when he was in the lites class, they both have 1 East title...hmmm...seems odd to say that...doesn't it?
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jeffro503 wrote:
Stewart's fantard club definition of " Shit luck : Riding over your head until you wad your brains out ever other race. Bouncing off other riders...
Stewart's fantard club definition of " Shit luck :

Riding over your head until you wad your brains out ever other race. Bouncing off other riders like a ping-pong ball and break your bike.

Lets chalk it all up to " Shit luck "......yeah that's it. Haha!

yeah that's not racist at all...

'da fuq is up wit da embedded image'

was that necessary or are you just fuking dumb?

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