2002 CR125 mods

rallendude
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I picked up a CR125 a few months ago and I'm getting around to making some mods. The previous owner got a decent start. Here's where I'm at:

Bike has new drive components with 53 tooth rear sprocket
New rubber, cheap Atrax on both ends, seem to do fine on the 125
New plastic, I plan to add a Cycra Stasium plate and front fender in '04-09 style
Fresh top end supposedly (I'm thinking about sending the Motor to Gorr for 134 treatment and a little more compression
2006 air box, might benefit from some holes
I'm looking for PWK air striker carb. Should I go 36mm or 38mm? Currently I have a PJ off an '86 CR500 on it. It already runs better than the Mikuni. It's a bit rich w/ 50 pilot and a 180 main.
Stock pipe and an FMF shorty, looking to go FMF Factory Fatty. Will likely get a V Force 3 also.
In the long run I'll probably go with black weels and 270-280mm front rotor, bigger pegs, and some '05-'07 Showas up front.

I'll try and throw up a few before photos tomorrow. The bike will be for play riding for me (5'-10", 200, Vet Cool and my son (5'-10", 130, beginner).
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Socket946
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4/6/2014 10:08pm
Replace it with a yz125, and you'll be on the right path for more horsepower.

Don't do the large brake, you shouldn't be on the brakes anyways, it's a 125.
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The better your brakes the deeper you can run it into the corners, no matter how slow the bike.

I don't have a YZ and I don't want a YZ. If I wanted to buy the fastest 125 on the market, I'd go get a KTM.
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Still looking for a Keihin PWK air striker. I can get the PJ to do alright with jetting but I'd like to try the AS.
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I have an 01 CR125 that was a giant turd when I picked up for 800 bucks 3 years ago. Of the mods i've done the PWK conversion has made the biggest difference. It starting to act like a regular 125 now. Had I know years ago it would take this much work I probably would still go with it because It handles like a dream, get the power worked out and you'll love it. Plus I learned a shit ton about tuning 2strokes.

What else i've done

Rad Valve
02 Power valve- different shape
PC pipe and silencer
05 air boot
Airbox mods to bring in more air.
slight porting and polishing.

How does the bike run now? The characteristics of the Motor?

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Oh, I found the PWK on ebay for 40 bucks because it was incomplete. but there are plenty of them on there.

The one you want has the black Screw cap, with or without the TPS. My mech. filled the TPS deal with epoxy. You want the black screw cap one because of clearance issues.

Here is a good link on the swap.

http://motocrosshideout.com/cr250cr125-pwk-air-striker-conversion-throw-out-the-tmx/
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4/9/2014 1:01pm
Did you use the 36mm or 38mm AS? I've read the 36 might get something that resembles a little bottom end but knowing it's a totally top end engine I hate to harm it. I've read using a 38mm with a powernow might be the best option.

What jetting did you end up with and what's your elevation?

When I got the bike it was a turd and gurgled its way from idle up until it finally cleared out and ran fairly decent wide open. I have an '86 CR500 and saw it had a Keihin that matched dimensions so I cleaned it and swapped it out for the Mikuni. Immediately the bottom got better. It actually sounds decent on the stand now but when the engine is loaded it still muddles its way off the bottom up through half throttle. It idles good but seems really fat in the bottom half of throttle opening. I'm going to play with the pilot, main, and needle positions on the PJ carb a little and see what I can get done until I get an AS.
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I got the bike for $1500 like you see it. I've cleaned it just a little but for the most part that's it.





Last week I put on an FMF shorty with the Keihin PJ carb. The brakes need work. I've got some black hoops and I'll probably put 1/2" holes in the airbox this week.

Oh yeah, I'll put on a Cycra Stadium plate and '04-'09 front 250f front fender soon. Thinking about a black motoseat too. Sent Camstyn a reply in the bazaar about a bunch of CR stuff maybe he'll see soon also.
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4/9/2014 1:51pm Edited Date/Time 4/9/2014 1:51pm
I used to have an 02 that I picked up used. Had it for about a year before I sold it. Besides some bolt-ons (FMF pipe, Vforce reeds) it was stock.

The secret to making it go fast is keep your motor fresh. I did top ends every 12-15 hours. Rev the PISS out of that thing, and if you blow it up, oh well, only $150 to fix it.

If you plan on keeping her screaming, I would suggest stock gearing in the back with one tooth BIGGER in the front.
While it makes the bike slow as turd down low, it will pull so much longer before flattening out up top.
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4/9/2014 8:12pm
I like it..
rallendude
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4/9/2014 8:16pm Edited Date/Time 4/9/2014 9:07pm
Thanks guys. Matt, I've read about every hop up article on the net and half of thumpertalk. It's amazing what some people will post about making a bike faster and expect people to believe it. I ordered a 38mm air striker off a '98 RM250 (supposedly) today for $100. It's deffinitely a quad vent air striker if I get what's in the photos.

A lot more reasonable carbs come up on eBay if you search without the term "air striker." The folks that advertise air striker want $200 plus. Those that don't know they have air strikers are $100-$150. I don't know what slide came in that one but I'll put a 45 pilot in and a 172 main and see what I get.

I bought some spray on paint stripper today. I plan to strip the paint off the stock pipe. It's been repainted.
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4/9/2014 8:18pm
I used to have one of those, bore it to a 133, throw in v-force reeds and bore the carb will wake it up a lot. Ttyl
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Thought you'd like that al711. That's the way I brought it home from your place.
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I went with the 36mm because Im not sure I have the mojo to ride a top end screamer. The PWK def made it easier to ride throughout the power. Easier to get on the pipe and Revved out more. I'll check my notes on the jetting, I had the guys at a Race shop handle it since I was tired of fucking with jets after 3 years of the TMX.

I second the going up a tooth on the front sprocket, makes you carry your momentum more but pulls nicely. You got a nice ride there, mine was a roached POS when I got it. Looking forward to hearing how the 38PWK works for you.

And I agree on the Ebayers posting every carb as a PWK AS. Easiest way to tell are the fins on the intake side of the carb.

Good luck man.
4/10/2014 11:47am
A friend of mine has a 2003ish CR125. He mentioned that the 05+ airboot really did help the power. Still a slow bike, but less slow, I guess.
4/10/2014 12:20pm
Don't spend a dime until you talk to Terry Varner at Varner Motorsports--he just did my '04 CR250......WOW..... And I could even run the stock exhaust system with his mods.

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