How to keep dumptruck from damaging asphalt?

Edited Date/Time 3/17/2014 7:16pm
Doing some excavation around my house, and I have a lot of dirt I need to move from one part of my land to the other. The only way to get there is by crossing my asphalt driveway. Doing this repeatedly with a dump truck will for sure put ruts in my driveway. Any ideas of how to prevent this? I'm thinking of dumping a load or two of dirt on the driveway itself and making a mound to drive across to help distribute the weight. Any other ideas? I have about 100 loads, so that's 200 trips across my driveway in a tri-axle KW dump. Thanks for the help.
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Old-Man
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3/12/2014 11:53am
It will still damage the asphalt, that stuff is like liquid stone under heavy weight. Rent a skid loader and make as many trips to the road (Dump Truck) as it takes
3/12/2014 12:25pm
Thanks for the reply. I've always had gravel driveways and never had to deal with asphalt. I have a hill on one side of my yard and a hole on the other side. Just wanting to move the hill into the hole to level everything out. I have a skid steer and my brother in law is letting me use his high lift and dump truck, but moving it with the skid steer is going to be A LOT of trips. His dump truck holds 10-12 cubic yards and the Bobcat only holds 3/4 cubic yards. So 1 dump truck load = about 15 trips with the Bobcat. It's a catch 22. Fewer heavy loads or several smaller loads, but I have a feeling the results will be the same.
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3/12/2014 12:31pm
A trackhoe and two dumps trucks would work... with just one trip over the driveway.

Unless you put about 3 feet of dirt on your driveway, you'll wreck it with a dump truck...or many trips with a skid steer.


If you have THAT much to move, you might be better off just scrapping a section of the driveway, and repaving it after you're done.
3/12/2014 12:35pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2014 12:35pm
Hmmm...that's a tough one. There are some smart people here, though, and I bet you someone will have a better solution than what I'm about to offer.

How about dumping the dirt next to the driveway, then using the skid steer to get across the driveway? Maybe put down some thick plywood on the asphalt?

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3/12/2014 12:38pm
What's your budget for this? If there's a sawmill nearby, go buy rough hewn 12 ft 2x12's and lay them across the driveway and a couple of feet out from each edge. Spread the load out, and be sure you stay on the outers if they move. The driveway will hammer out from the edge inward. Either go real slow with the dump truck, or rent a utility dumper, and carry on.
3/12/2014 1:08pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2014 1:09pm
Duh, make a ramp on each side. Plenty of room needed before take off, pin it and hold on.

Use brakes and throttle to keep the truck level so you won't spill the dirt.

Good luck.

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3/12/2014 1:49pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2014 1:51pm
Thanks guys. Repaving is a worst case scenario, just figured I'd ask here as I'm sure some track builders have run into this issue before. Scooter, that makes sense about the asphalt damaging from the outside in. It's kind of a ripple effect, like driving through soft dirt. The 2x12's give me an idea. What if I were to lay old railroad ties across the driveway(parallel to the driveway) and about 2-3ft out on each side then make a dirt ramp on each side to drive up on them? Surely if they can support a train... lol
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3/12/2014 4:47pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2014 4:48pm
Ties would have been my first suggestion, but I thought those would be harder to come by. If you have access to them, have at 'er! Just make sure they aren't too far gone, and if you're KW is the chosen mode of transport, I'd suggest 2 rows end to end, and the steers and drives cut down the middle. You're golden. Cool
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3/12/2014 5:07pm
Sheets of plywood will disperse the weight more evenly and prevent making tracks.

I've done this plenty of times with dump trucks and heavy equipment
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3/12/2014 7:14pm
100 loads with a dump truck will leave an impression no matter the RR ties (LOL sry had to laugh when Scooter agreed) he hates George Fanelli but thats what he would do.Laughing Smile

If this were my project ~
1. Do like I said above or
2. Cut the asphalt 10' wide and let the Dumps run back and forth to get the job done then tamp the area ( The trks will have done most of that job) to get it even, bring in 7/11 grade stone (Berm stone) to lay pavers. This will allow for future use when something like this is needed again, just pull up the pavers and your road to construction is open again. Actually red pavers in asphalt breaks up the road nicely, brings the driveway alive so to speak.

The price for stone and pavers/laid VS 400-500 trips/time on the skid plus future projects out ways the latter.

Just my 2 cents worth of 38 years in commercial/residential construction Wink
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3/12/2014 7:18pm
OH, forgot to mention. You can rent a hand saw w/diamond blade, snaps some lines and cut the asphalt 2-4" deep to control the cracking where you need it to be.
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3/12/2014 7:24pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2014 7:27pm
400-500 dump truck passes is going to leave a mark, period. No way around that

But, if you can afford 400-500 loads of dirt coming and going, you can afford new cobble stone
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3/12/2014 7:24pm
Rent some steel Trench-Plates like they use to cover road-trenches. I'd actually rent enough to double'em up at the seems to prevent "print thru" at those seems that're actually on the pavement.

Good Luck!
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3/12/2014 7:33pm
Pond Scum wrote:
400-500 dump truck passes is going to leave a mark, period. No way around that But, if you can afford 400-500 loads of dirt coming and...
400-500 dump truck passes is going to leave a mark, period. No way around that

But, if you can afford 400-500 loads of dirt coming and going, you can afford new cobble stone
It's 400-500 skid loads of dirt. 100 dump trucks as he said in his first post.

And yes I agree, if you can afford this you can afford pavers
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3/12/2014 8:02pm
i landscape during the summer months and we have this problem all the time

get a few truck loads of clay, really packable clay and make sure its a foot thick at least and twice as wide as the truck you will be driving over it with


but like the others said if you can afford to re-pave dont waist your time trying to save it
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I ain't read the other replys,drinkin'

Plywood ,then 4 or 5 or 6 inches dirt on the plywood,rip it down middle to cover wheel tracks,believe me,been there.

Cover it with how much dirt your ass canremove,,the dirt will kinda spoonge as the weight goes over and really relieve the stress on the blacktop.
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Woohoo Laughing Disregard everything I mentioned. Hammer down!
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3/12/2014 11:11pm
what kind of dump truck are you using? please tell us
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Put down plywood, build a pile right next to the road .use an excavator with a long enough bucket to reach the dump truck across the road.
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3/13/2014 5:45am
enketchum wrote:
what kind of dump truck are you using? please tell us
This is from google, but it's similar to this one.


Thanks for all the replies guys. I'll probably end up doing what Old-Man said and just cut that section out and replace it with pavers so I can use it again if need be, but first I'm gonna throw down a couple feet of dirt and some wood just out of curiosity. No difference in cutting perfectly fine asphalt vs destroyed asphalt with ruts in it. I'll have to measure and find the center of my driveway, that way if I have to put the pavers down they'll be at the halfway point purely for aesthetics. haha Thanks for all the help!
3/13/2014 6:19am
enketchum wrote:
what kind of dump truck are you using? please tell us
SEE ARE125 wrote:
This is from google, but it's similar to this one. [img]http://img.machinio.com/rnd/9731583.jpg[/img] Thanks for all the replies guys. I'll probably end up doing what Old-Man said and...
This is from google, but it's similar to this one.


Thanks for all the replies guys. I'll probably end up doing what Old-Man said and just cut that section out and replace it with pavers so I can use it again if need be, but first I'm gonna throw down a couple feet of dirt and some wood just out of curiosity. No difference in cutting perfectly fine asphalt vs destroyed asphalt with ruts in it. I'll have to measure and find the center of my driveway, that way if I have to put the pavers down they'll be at the halfway point purely for aesthetics. haha Thanks for all the help!
I hope your yard is up to that many loads.
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3/13/2014 9:31am
1" plywood would disperse the weight.
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We cross county roads here with heavy rock trucks fairly often. They typically will cover that section of road with rail road cross ties. If there are rail roads near you, you may be able to get some old, discarded rail road cross ties. Cover the section of driveway and then build dirt ramps onto the cross ties.

It will be a huge pain in the rear to get it all done though. Might be better just to dig out two narrow strips and use the pavers like you said earlier.
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Some good suggestions here. Rig or crane mats are the ticket if they're available for rent in your area.
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Scooters idea plus 3/4 - 1 in plywood and about 2 feet of compacted dirt. No worries.
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3/14/2014 8:11pm
put old tires under plywood, if you can find cut ones used around the orange barrels, even better. Work as a cushion and help the plywood disperse weight.
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This thread just keeps delivering
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3/15/2014 2:16am Edited Date/Time 3/15/2014 2:25am

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Pond Scum wrote:
400-500 dump truck passes is going to leave a mark, period. No way around that But, if you can afford 400-500 loads of dirt coming and...
400-500 dump truck passes is going to leave a mark, period. No way around that

But, if you can afford 400-500 loads of dirt coming and going, you can afford new cobble stone
Exactly what I was thinking. Why are we even having this conversation?

"Hey, I'm putting in a new private air port on my 500,000 acre cattle ranch and I'm worried that my private jet is going to damage the pretty wild flowers. Any tips on how to prevent this?"
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