GP riders in the sand

mxgeoff
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 10:41am
Interesting to see how Marc de Reuvers time is compared to the leading AMA riders. He is truly a legend in the sand.

At the GP of Lommel Marc got pole position with a time of 2:03.015, there were eight guys within a second of Marc, with tenth placed Aigar Leok on 2:.04.770.

What was interesting was that De Dycker clocked at 2:03.153, Seb Pourcel a 2:.03578, Tanel Leok 2:03.647 and in fifth World MX1 champion Steve Ramon 2:03.804.

Just some info on how quick the GP guys are in sand.

Geoff
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8/24/2008 1:15am
mxgeoff wrote:
Interesting to see how Marc de Reuvers time is compared to the leading AMA riders. He is truly a legend in the sand. At the GP...
Interesting to see how Marc de Reuvers time is compared to the leading AMA riders. He is truly a legend in the sand.

At the GP of Lommel Marc got pole position with a time of 2:03.015, there were eight guys within a second of Marc, with tenth placed Aigar Leok on 2:.04.770.

What was interesting was that De Dycker clocked at 2:03.153, Seb Pourcel a 2:.03578, Tanel Leok 2:03.647 and in fifth World MX1 champion Steve Ramon 2:03.804.

Just some info on how quick the GP guys are in sand.

Geoff
Geoff

Will be good to see him ride. It will also be good to see if he can run close to his qualifying pace for the entire race! He should be fit enough.... is he on a compatable piece of machinery in the US?
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8/24/2008 1:19am
mxgeoff wrote:
Interesting to see how Marc de Reuvers time is compared to the leading AMA riders. He is truly a legend in the sand. At the GP...
Interesting to see how Marc de Reuvers time is compared to the leading AMA riders. He is truly a legend in the sand.

At the GP of Lommel Marc got pole position with a time of 2:03.015, there were eight guys within a second of Marc, with tenth placed Aigar Leok on 2:.04.770.

What was interesting was that De Dycker clocked at 2:03.153, Seb Pourcel a 2:.03578, Tanel Leok 2:03.647 and in fifth World MX1 champion Steve Ramon 2:03.804.

Just some info on how quick the GP guys are in sand.

Geoff
iKapture wrote:
Geoff Will be good to see him ride. It will also be good to see if he can run close to his qualifying pace for the...
Geoff

Will be good to see him ride. It will also be good to see if he can run close to his qualifying pace for the entire race! He should be fit enough.... is he on a compatable piece of machinery in the US?
Hey,

Good to hear from you, loving your photos in ABD and I think AMCN.

He has a similar bike I heard, and he is pretty good at actually being quicker than his qualification times. So he should be on it.

Geoff
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I think GP riders are closer together in the sand simply because we practise a lot more in the sand because we have more races in the sand.
I'm not saying GP guys are better or faster then the american riders in sand but we just practise more in it. I really don't understand why the AMA does not host any real sand races. Southwick is the most sandy track out there but after looking at video's and hearing Marc talk about the surface i can't do anything then conclude that Southwick is "sandy" compared to the sand tracks over here.
I can't believe there are no sand tracks in the usa. I often read that american riders can ride in the sand simply because Florida (where RC and JS grew) is completely sand. I have never been to Florida so i must take your word for it lol.
So therefor those riders surely can ride in the sand. But what i don't understand is why the AMA does not host a race on one of those real sand tracks.

Look at the southwick preview show. Marc tells that in europe we race the sand races with scooped tyres and in Southwick he does not need those tyres. James however assures him that it will be rough in the 2nd moto so i'm sure it will be a good race.

Ow yes.. if you wanna see the difference in what we call sand :
highlights GP of Lommel 2008 : http://www.freecaster.tv/1000003_1005531
a video of Southwick : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8RdR7WNb_o

Look at how much deeper the sand in Lommel is. How much tougher the track is. Just listen to the engines in those clips. You can hear that they have to work harder in Lommel.
Read up on comments from guys who have raced in Lommel and in Southwick. Guys like Ben Townley, Chuck Sun and Zach Osbourne.

The AMA does not host races like this. Therefor it is only normal that the american riders are not as well adapted to the sand as the european riders. Over here the stars simply practise more often in it. James Stewart ofcourse being an exception lol. That guy is crazy fast just about everywhere :D
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8/24/2008 1:37am
mumhra wrote:
I think GP riders are closer together in the sand simply because we practise a lot more in the sand because we have more races in...
I think GP riders are closer together in the sand simply because we practise a lot more in the sand because we have more races in the sand.
I'm not saying GP guys are better or faster then the american riders in sand but we just practise more in it. I really don't understand why the AMA does not host any real sand races. Southwick is the most sandy track out there but after looking at video's and hearing Marc talk about the surface i can't do anything then conclude that Southwick is "sandy" compared to the sand tracks over here.
I can't believe there are no sand tracks in the usa. I often read that american riders can ride in the sand simply because Florida (where RC and JS grew) is completely sand. I have never been to Florida so i must take your word for it lol.
So therefor those riders surely can ride in the sand. But what i don't understand is why the AMA does not host a race on one of those real sand tracks.

Look at the southwick preview show. Marc tells that in europe we race the sand races with scooped tyres and in Southwick he does not need those tyres. James however assures him that it will be rough in the 2nd moto so i'm sure it will be a good race.

Ow yes.. if you wanna see the difference in what we call sand :
highlights GP of Lommel 2008 : http://www.freecaster.tv/1000003_1005531
a video of Southwick : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8RdR7WNb_o

Look at how much deeper the sand in Lommel is. How much tougher the track is. Just listen to the engines in those clips. You can hear that they have to work harder in Lommel.
Read up on comments from guys who have raced in Lommel and in Southwick. Guys like Ben Townley, Chuck Sun and Zach Osbourne.

The AMA does not host races like this. Therefor it is only normal that the american riders are not as well adapted to the sand as the european riders. Over here the stars simply practise more often in it. James Stewart ofcourse being an exception lol. That guy is crazy fast just about everywhere :D
Southwick doesn't even look like sand, hahahaha. De Reuver is also quick on other circuits, not just sand.

Geoff

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Jimmy Leg
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8/24/2008 3:04am Edited Date/Time 8/24/2008 3:04am
Arent there any MX message boards in Bel or NLD????
mxgeoff
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8/24/2008 3:20am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:09pm
Jimmy Leg wrote:
Arent there any MX message boards in Bel or NLD????
Many in Belgium and Holland, but problem there is we can't piss-off any Americans, hahahaha. Here it's easy. It would be like going to your local teams football club and start screaming we are the best. Just doesn't make sense.


Geoff
8/24/2008 4:22am
all the belgian forum guys here, i've seen them on our native message board too.

we come here for the american news and dirt... :d
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8/24/2008 5:02am
Jimmy Leg wrote:
Arent there any MX message boards in Bel or NLD????
mxgeoff wrote:
Many in Belgium and Holland, but problem there is we can't piss-off any Americans, hahahaha. Here it's easy. It would be like going to your local...
Many in Belgium and Holland, but problem there is we can't piss-off any Americans, hahahaha. Here it's easy. It would be like going to your local teams football club and start screaming we are the best. Just doesn't make sense.


Geoff
Got that right. Smile
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8/24/2008 9:11am Edited Date/Time 8/24/2008 9:12am
America is a big ass country, and let me assure you there are plenty of sand tracks to be found from coast to coast. At the local level however, sandtracks sometimes have a hard time staying open because many riders would rather ride on dirt because it is easier. I guess when there is so much competition for riders between tracks, sometimes the sandtracks have a tough time getting the riders they need to stay open.
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8/24/2008 9:33am
You guys really do a nice job of stroking one another.

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