Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman

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6/14/2013 10:57pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2013 11:28pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
Holy cow, are fights that commonplace in other areas and I'm just not aware of it? I never get into any altercations either in my area...
Holy cow, are fights that commonplace in other areas and I'm just not aware of it? I never get into any altercations either in my area or when I travel. What am I doing wrong? Sounds like I am missing out on all the fun!
Maybe you're a lover & not a fighter.
Or maybe your just really fat & out of shape so people feel sorry for you & leave you alone.
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6/24/2013 8:58am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2013 8:58am
Eddy , you still following this? I just read this on FOX`s site.

"The prosecutor said Martin had no blood or DNA from Zimmerman on his hands or under his fingernails"

Did they go in to any specifics?
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6/24/2013 9:25am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2013 9:31am
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Eddy , you still following this? I just read this on FOX`s site. [b]"The prosecutor said Martin had no blood or DNA from Zimmerman on his...
Eddy , you still following this? I just read this on FOX`s site.

"The prosecutor said Martin had no blood or DNA from Zimmerman on his hands or under his fingernails"

Did they go in to any specifics?
Yes I have been following every bit of the trial all through jury selection and now opening statements.
Haven't missed a second of it.
The prosecutor said that during opening statements. They can pretty much say they want they want within reason during opening statements - as long they try/attempt to prove it.But they will have to prove it with actual & factual evidence.
It should be interesting to hear what an expert witness says in that regards - I assume that is what they will try to do.
They (the defense) should also counter it with another expert - basically saying that no DNA evidence on his hands or under his nails does not necessarily mean he didn't attack him. They will talk about how many cases they investigated and how there were blatant knock down drag out brawls and the others persons DNA were never found on each other.
That could cause a reasonable doubt in the jury minds on that subject of evidence.
They,the eye witnesses should be the best witnesses of what went down though - they will hold more water then verbal type witnesses who were not there or circumstantial type expert witnesses.
Should be interesting to see how it turns out.

You can watch the trial live right now on here.
The defense (Zimmerman) is doing their opening statements now.
http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/trayvon-martin-extended-covera…

They're recessing for lunch now.
Should start back up in an hour or so.
We should see witnesses called today by the prosecution also.

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6/24/2013 9:29am
The defense opened with a knock knock joke.
Really?
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6/24/2013 9:33am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2013 10:00am
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The defense opened with a knock knock joke.
Really?
Early in during open statements he(Don West) said...

Knock knock.
Who’s there?
George Zimmerman.
George Zimmerman who?
All right. Good. You’re on the Jury.
Smile
Meaning it was hard to find anyone who didn't hear of this case.
How hard jury selection was.But they got the best jury they could.
He wanted to let the jury know that for some odd reason.
Or have that on there (the record) for some weird appeal reason(if needed) - basically the jury's reaction.

He also could have did it to gauge the jury's reaction to what type of mood they're in.
This is more likely.

They will do interviews when this is all over weeks from now.
Should be interesting to hear West's reason for doing that (the knock knock joke).

Here it is..
https://youtu.be/WpQSJVgKn8k
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6/24/2013 9:43am
kongols wrote:
Eddy , you still following this? I just read this on FOX`s site. [b]"The prosecutor said Martin had no blood or DNA from Zimmerman on his...
Eddy , you still following this? I just read this on FOX`s site.

"The prosecutor said Martin had no blood or DNA from Zimmerman on his hands or under his fingernails"

Did they go in to any specifics?
FastEddy wrote:
Yes I have been following every bit of the trial all through jury selection and now opening statements. Haven't missed a second of it. The prosecutor...
Yes I have been following every bit of the trial all through jury selection and now opening statements.
Haven't missed a second of it.
The prosecutor said that during opening statements. They can pretty much say they want they want within reason during opening statements - as long they try/attempt to prove it.But they will have to prove it with actual & factual evidence.
It should be interesting to hear what an expert witness says in that regards - I assume that is what they will try to do.
They (the defense) should also counter it with another expert - basically saying that no DNA evidence on his hands or under his nails does not necessarily mean he didn't attack him. They will talk about how many cases they investigated and how there were blatant knock down drag out brawls and the others persons DNA were never found on each other.
That could cause a reasonable doubt in the jury minds on that subject of evidence.
They,the eye witnesses should be the best witnesses of what went down though - they will hold more water then verbal type witnesses who were not there or circumstantial type expert witnesses.
Should be interesting to see how it turns out.

You can watch the trial live right now on here.
The defense (Zimmerman) is doing their opening statements now.
http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/trayvon-martin-extended-covera…

They're recessing for lunch now.
Should start back up in an hour or so.
We should see witnesses called today by the prosecution also.
There is no way I`m watching it. The most I watched it was about 3 minutes. I will rely on your expertise if I have some questions, alright.Whistling Cool Wink
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6/24/2013 9:48am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2013 9:49am
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There is no way I`m watching it. The most I watched it was about 3 minutes. I will rely on your expertise if I have some...
There is no way I`m watching it. The most I watched it was about 3 minutes. I will rely on your expertise if I have some questions, alright.Whistling Cool Wink
I'm by far not an expert - I just understand it to a certain degree. Smile
I will just follow it and see if I think the State proved without a reasonable doubt he is guilty of Second Degree Murder.
It's going to be hard for them to do that - but not impossible.
It will all come down to the altercation.
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6/24/2013 7:02pm
"FUCKING PUNKS" and THESE ASSHOLES ALWAYS GET AWAY".

The 911 call, along with his remarks and testimony will be the downfall of Zimmerman. He pretty much shows his mindset, which in turn will help the jurors determine his intent on that night when he decided to follow Martin with a 9 mm with seven rounds in the magazine and one in the barrel.

Let's not discount that fact that Zimmerman was under doctors care and had a prescription for psychotic meds.

Lots of surprises to come on this one guys. And my guess is that the defense has shot all of their bullets trying to taint public opinion and the jury pool.

If anything good comes from this terrible incident. I hope that it reveals how easy it is to obtain a CCP. I have no issue with CCPs as long as people are properly vetted. A CCP should be for only well trained and well vetted citizens. Not the Zimmerman's of the world.
6/24/2013 9:03pm
I don't plan on watching the trial... at all but I did watch the prosecution's opening statement today. Just listening to that I think they will have a hard time proving their outline of the trial. Their main thing was there was no DNA on Trayvon and eye witnesses which none of them saw the whole thing, just pizza cut outs of their little piece of the puzzle of what they saw. What is the problem with this, as I envisioned it? It was raining, and it was dark. How can any of those hold merit? I think they have their work cut if they plan to leave no reasonable doubt.
6/24/2013 9:20pm
I'm 1 for 2 on predicting the jury trials I have sat through this summer; a hatchet murder and a gang rape.

My guess on this one is not guilty.
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6/25/2013 4:36am Edited Date/Time 6/25/2013 5:01am
jmar wrote:
[i] "FUCKING PUNKS" and THESE ASSHOLES ALWAYS GET AWAY".[/i] The 911 call, along with his remarks and testimony will be the downfall of Zimmerman. He pretty...
"FUCKING PUNKS" and THESE ASSHOLES ALWAYS GET AWAY".

The 911 call, along with his remarks and testimony will be the downfall of Zimmerman. He pretty much shows his mindset, which in turn will help the jurors determine his intent on that night when he decided to follow Martin with a 9 mm with seven rounds in the magazine and one in the barrel.

Let's not discount that fact that Zimmerman was under doctors care and had a prescription for psychotic meds.

Lots of surprises to come on this one guys. And my guess is that the defense has shot all of their bullets trying to taint public opinion and the jury pool.

If anything good comes from this terrible incident. I hope that it reveals how easy it is to obtain a CCP. I have no issue with CCPs as long as people are properly vetted. A CCP should be for only well trained and well vetted citizens. Not the Zimmerman's of the world.
This here is one if the media's favorite sheep! Taint public opinion? Where you get your info Al Sharpton or Jesse?

Damn him for defending himself!

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Thats not real Crash, thats photoshop according to the guys who have already prosecuted and found Zimmerman guilty without actually being there nor hearing ALL the evidence! Oh, and he is a pussy because hes not a bad ass fist fighter, too! Because as we all know now from the Zimmerman Lynch Mob is that if you dont like to, or are not adept at fist fighting, you are less of a man! This crowd measures your worth by how well you will accept a beat-down from a delinquent punk. You should never use a firearm to protect yourself, just take an ass beating from a smart ass reject dope head like a man! I mean, whats a broke nose anyway, it will heal and a badge of honor, right?
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6/25/2013 6:17am
Wow man that was beautiful....well executed, but prepare to be called a racist!
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Thats not real Crash, thats photoshop according to the guys who have already prosecuted and found Zimmerman guilty without actually being there nor hearing ALL the...
Thats not real Crash, thats photoshop according to the guys who have already prosecuted and found Zimmerman guilty without actually being there nor hearing ALL the evidence! Oh, and he is a pussy because hes not a bad ass fist fighter, too! Because as we all know now from the Zimmerman Lynch Mob is that if you dont like to, or are not adept at fist fighting, you are less of a man! This crowd measures your worth by how well you will accept a beat-down from a delinquent punk. You should never use a firearm to protect yourself, just take an ass beating from a smart ass reject dope head like a man! I mean, whats a broke nose anyway, it will heal and a badge of honor, right?
Paula Deen just took her shirt off!
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Paula Deen just took her shirt off!
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Thats not real Crash, thats photoshop according to the guys who have already prosecuted and found Zimmerman guilty without actually being there nor hearing ALL the...
Thats not real Crash, thats photoshop according to the guys who have already prosecuted and found Zimmerman guilty without actually being there nor hearing ALL the evidence! Oh, and he is a pussy because hes not a bad ass fist fighter, too! Because as we all know now from the Zimmerman Lynch Mob is that if you dont like to, or are not adept at fist fighting, you are less of a man! This crowd measures your worth by how well you will accept a beat-down from a delinquent punk. You should never use a firearm to protect yourself, just take an ass beating from a smart ass reject dope head like a man! I mean, whats a broke nose anyway, it will heal and a badge of honor, right?
huck wrote:
Paula Deen just took her shirt off!
I'd hit it!
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Racer92 wrote:
Thats not real Crash, thats photoshop according to the guys who have already prosecuted and found Zimmerman guilty without actually being there nor hearing ALL the...
Thats not real Crash, thats photoshop according to the guys who have already prosecuted and found Zimmerman guilty without actually being there nor hearing ALL the evidence! Oh, and he is a pussy because hes not a bad ass fist fighter, too! Because as we all know now from the Zimmerman Lynch Mob is that if you dont like to, or are not adept at fist fighting, you are less of a man! This crowd measures your worth by how well you will accept a beat-down from a delinquent punk. You should never use a firearm to protect yourself, just take an ass beating from a smart ass reject dope head like a man! I mean, whats a broke nose anyway, it will heal and a badge of honor, right?
"Perhaps, with the right medication at the right doses, I could have bought a couple of decent years, but even that is too much to ask from a regime built upon the idea that suffering is noble and relief is just for the weak.

However, when the challenges facing a person are already so great that all but the weakest would give up, these extra factors are enough to push a person over the edge
." ~Daniel Somers June 10th 2013

Correct Racer92

Reading "Mercy killing" says alot about our society and the way the media has driven it.

You can read it here http://gawker.com/i-am-sorry-that-it-has-come-to-this-a-soldiers-last-5…
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6/25/2013 7:41am Edited Date/Time 6/25/2013 7:45am


So if this was your wife would she be a murderer if she shot the slime ball? Welcome to Obamamerica. OMG I'm pissed.
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That video is photoshopped too. Or at a minimum that broad had it coming, musta said something to provoke that innocent "boy". She should just take an ass whipping like a man, err, woman. Havent you heard, if you dont like what someone says in 21st Century America, you can just beat 'em down for it. Seriously. Screw that silly Amendment about free speech or whatever, you get offended, beat their ass down! They have it coming !

That "boy" depicted in that video is innocent and a victim. Truth is, if Obama had a son, he'd looked a lot like that.
6/25/2013 8:14am
That is just brutal what that animal did to that woman.......if they catch him, he will likely be back out doing the same shit in a few months......

This needs it's own thread Crash. A lot to consider here about what our spouses would be able to do if this happened in our own homes......
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6/25/2013 8:15am
I think you two are a little over the top. Pitiful.
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So if this was your wife would she be a murderer if she shot the slime ball? Welcome to Obamamerica. OMG I'm pissed.
What does that video have to do with the case at hand? Are you saying that the woman in the picture armed herself and stalked the guy who was beating her? That's about the only way that it would have any connection to the Zimmerman trial..........
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That is just brutal what that animal did to that woman.......if they catch him, he will likely be back out doing the same shit in a...
That is just brutal what that animal did to that woman.......if they catch him, he will likely be back out doing the same shit in a few months......

This needs it's own thread Crash. A lot to consider here about what our spouses would be able to do if this happened in our own homes......
"A lot to consider here about what our spouses would be able to do if this happened in our own homes......"

Mine would be able to reload and finish him off if he's still moving....
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6/25/2013 9:27am
Thanks for sharing that video, I'll show my girlfriend for sure, she knows I hid 2 ax handles in our home just in case neither of us can get to the mossy 500 in time.
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6/25/2013 9:30am Edited Date/Time 6/25/2013 9:31am
So if you are not in your house it's okay for someone to whoop your ass? I will say it one more time......You can not whoop someone's ass for stalking or following you, but you can defend yourself when someone tries to whoop you. On one hand the lefties say Zimmerman was a wimp who hide behind a gun, on the other hand the lefties say he jumped on a 6 foot tall thug in a hood. Zimmerman is a wimp, he didn't jump on anyone and if he was following Treyvon then legally all Treyvon could have done was file charges for harassment. He choose to kick his ass, wrong move. No need for me to sit here an argue with folks who have absolutely no experience dealing with these little young hardcore thugs man, they will kill you and joke about it.
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6/25/2013 9:35am
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So if this was your wife would she be a murderer if she shot the slime ball? Welcome to Obamamerica. OMG I'm pissed.
APLMAN99 wrote:
What does that video have to do with the case at hand? Are you saying that the woman in the picture armed herself and stalked the...
What does that video have to do with the case at hand? Are you saying that the woman in the picture armed herself and stalked the guy who was beating her? That's about the only way that it would have any connection to the Zimmerman trial..........
Ha! Exactly how I expected you to reply! So you are saying if that woman carried a gun and stalked that dude it would be okay to beat her? No it would not, I rest my case.
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So if you are not in your house it's okay for someone to whoop your ass? I will say it one more time......You can not whoop...
So if you are not in your house it's okay for someone to whoop your ass? I will say it one more time......You can not whoop someone's ass for stalking or following you, but you can defend yourself when someone tries to whoop you. On one hand the lefties say Zimmerman was a wimp who hide behind a gun, on the other hand the lefties say he jumped on a 6 foot tall thug in a hood. Zimmerman is a wimp, he didn't jump on anyone and if he was following Treyvon then legally all Treyvon could have done was file charges for harassment. He choose to kick his ass, wrong move. No need for me to sit here an argue with folks who have absolutely no experience dealing with these little young hardcore thugs man, they will kill you and joke about it.
Obviously you're in favor of trying Martin in this case for being black and wearing a hood.

I'm pretty certain that you were one of the guys who thought the old guy who killed two fellas who were robbing his neighbors house was a hero. These guys weren't threatening the old man and he shot them as they were going away from him. So you believe that he was justified in killing them without a trial, yet Martin wasn't justified in trying to save himself from an armed guy stalking him late at night.

I think we all know the real reason why you think it was okay to shoot the guys robbing the neighbor's house and Martin. You've shown it pretty often.
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So if this was your wife would she be a murderer if she shot the slime ball? Welcome to Obamamerica. OMG I'm pissed.
APLMAN99 wrote:
What does that video have to do with the case at hand? Are you saying that the woman in the picture armed herself and stalked the...
What does that video have to do with the case at hand? Are you saying that the woman in the picture armed herself and stalked the guy who was beating her? That's about the only way that it would have any connection to the Zimmerman trial..........
Crash82 wrote:
Ha! Exactly how I expected you to reply! So you are saying if that woman carried a gun and stalked that dude it would be okay...
Ha! Exactly how I expected you to reply! So you are saying if that woman carried a gun and stalked that dude it would be okay to beat her? No it would not, I rest my case.
Again, this has nothing to do with the case at hand. Or are you now alleging that Martin broke into Zimmerman's house and was killed there?
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6/25/2013 9:54am
Holy shit Crash is an idiot. It`s scary what`s happening in his head. For a sake of some innocent people I hope Crash does not own any weapons.

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