Protecting the Sanctity of Marriage

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Protecting Marriage

As president, John McCain would nominate judges who understand that the role of the Court is not to subvert the rights of the people by legislating from the bench. Critical to Constitutional balance is ensuring that, where state and local governments do act to preserve the traditional family, the Courts must not overstep their authority and thwart the Constitutional right of the people to decide this question.

The family represents the foundation of Western Civilization and civil society and John McCain believes the institution of marriage is a union between one man and one woman. It is only this definition that sufficiently recognizes the vital and unique role played by mothers and fathers in the raising of children, and the role of the family in shaping, stabilizing, and strengthening communities and our nation.

As with most issues vital to the preservation and health of civil society, the basic responsibility for preserving and strengthening the family should reside at the level of government closest to the people. In their wisdom, the Founding Fathers reserved for the States the authority and responsibility to protect and strengthen the vital institutions of our civil society. They did so to ensure that the voices of America's families could not be ignored by an indifferent national government or suffocated through filibusters and clever legislative maneuvering in Congress.
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"The family represents the foundation of Western Civilization and civil society and John McCain believes the institution of marriage is a union between one man and one woman. It is only this definition that sufficiently recognizes the vital and unique role played by mothers and fathers in the raising of children, and the role of the family in shaping, stabilizing, and strengthening communities and our nation."

Complete agreement on this one..
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You obviously don't see the irony.
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THEN
McCain Opposed Federal Gay Marriage Ban. [Los Angeles Times, 1/25/05]

NOW
McCain Says He Would Sign the Federal Marriage Amendment Into Law. [Politico, 3/19/07]
McCain Voted Against Considering An Amendment to Ban Gay Marriage. [Vote #163, SJRes 1, 6/7/02]
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God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

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if guys want their fudge packed, so be it. i'm just not ok with them having the same rights as a married couple nor am I ok with them being able to adopt.

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so it would be ok to make divorce illegal?
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hell no!
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Gays have every right to be miserable just like the straight people.

For me...instead of ever getting married again, I will just find a woman I hate, and give her a house !
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Wow will you ever give up..??


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In Australia, people have to have pre-marital counseling before they will issue a marriage license. I think that is a good practice.
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j100 wrote:
if guys want their fudge packed, so be it. i'm just not ok with them having the same rights as a married couple nor am I...
if guys want their fudge packed, so be it. i'm just not ok with them having the same rights as a married couple nor am I ok with them being able to adopt.

Like it's any of your damned business, anyway.


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j100 wrote:
God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
And man made God. So, we can change the rules of the myths.

I have a relative who's gay. She (and her partner) raised her children (from her previous marriage) very well. They are class kids, in fact much better than average kids. None are gay. Strangely enough, they're even devout Christians (not just on Sundays, either).
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Some people just do not get it.

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People lash out at what they don't understand or fear. It's like a knee jerk reaction . Gay frightens most people, so they just want to lash out. It is easier for their brain, uses less synapses. All people have rights, aren't we in a war for democracy in the ME? We want them to have the same rights as all humans deserve. At least that is what the reason is now.
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Homey wrote:
Some people just do not get it.

Here's an analogy for them:

White people once believed(some still do) that blacks were less than human, and didn't deserve the same rights.

The Nazis believed that Jews were less than human, and decided to wipe them off the face of the earth.

The moral militia believe that homosexuals are less than human...

Who gets to decide who is, or isn't entitled to their inalienable rights as an American citizen?
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8/18/2008 11:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:05pm
j100 wrote:
if guys want their fudge packed, so be it. i'm just not ok with them having the same rights as a married couple nor am I...
if guys want their fudge packed, so be it. i'm just not ok with them having the same rights as a married couple nor am I ok with them being able to adopt.

motogeezer wrote:
Like it's any of your damned business, anyway.


my view is my opinion, just like yours.

if you think your terd cutter was made to have things rammed up it, have at it.
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motogeezer wrote:
Here's an analogy for them: White people once believed(some still do) that blacks were less than human, and didn't deserve the same rights. The Nazis believed...
Here's an analogy for them:

White people once believed(some still do) that blacks were less than human, and didn't deserve the same rights.

The Nazis believed that Jews were less than human, and decided to wipe them off the face of the earth.

The moral militia believe that homosexuals are less than human...

Who gets to decide who is, or isn't entitled to their inalienable rights as an American citizen?
Exactly, let the necros and the pedos get married and live in peace with their significant others!!
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Who cares if they have the same rights as married straight couples?
How does that affect you?
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Typical liberal response, if you are against it, its because you are scared or a bigot. Where is marriage listed as an inalienable right? It is a known fact that the best situation to raise a child in is with a father and mother, not any combination of the two. Can two gay people raise a healthy, well adjusted child? Ofcourse they can. The family of mother, father and child is the foundation of our society, what's wrong with it having a special designation? I'm all for allowing the same tax, legal and benifits for a gay couple, just don't call it a marriage.
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Dave, I wouldn't vote against it. I could care less what people do, but i have an opinion about what they do.

i could care less about gays and abortion, because neither effect me.

on the other hand, i can have an opinion about the choice of others, but i wouldn't step in and vote against their choice.
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FGR01 wrote:
Exactly, let the necros and the pedos get married and live in peace with their significant others!!
So you believe that gays are also pedophiles, and necrophiliacs?
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Bob693 wrote:
Typical liberal response, if you are against it, its because you are scared or a bigot. Where is marriage listed as an inalienable right? It is...
Typical liberal response, if you are against it, its because you are scared or a bigot. Where is marriage listed as an inalienable right? It is a known fact that the best situation to raise a child in is with a father and mother, not any combination of the two. Can two gay people raise a healthy, well adjusted child? Ofcourse they can. The family of mother, father and child is the foundation of our society, what's wrong with it having a special designation? I'm all for allowing the same tax, legal and benifits for a gay couple, just don't call it a marriage.
Marriage isn't an inalienable right. Equality is, though (per our Constitution). And, because our government provides benefits that are associated to the legal "marriage", then our government creates inequality by allowing marriage to only certain people.

So, the problem isn't the liberals. The problem is that the government got mixed up with a religious act. All "marriage" should be changed to "civil union", and those that feel the need to get "married" can go to their church and do so.

The reason why this is a problem is because the religious righties are using the concept of a marriage under a god as a means to create the inequality. Yes, they are indeed scared, as usual.
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FGR01 wrote:
Exactly, let the necros and the pedos get married and live in peace with their significant others!!
motogeezer wrote:
So you believe that gays are also pedophiles, and necrophiliacs?
No, I'm just saying they are all people with rights and all deserve to be left alone to live the life they choose. Who are we to decide who isn't entitled to their rights?
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Bob693 says: "I'm all for allowing the same tax, legal and benifits for a gay couple, just don't call it a marriage."

and I can agree with that
Marriage is a Biblical term, so leave it in that context, Biblical...man and woman

Allow homosexuals "civil unions" with all the same rights and benefits
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Personally I'm against gay marrage, and believe in the sanctity of marriage as stated above...but I'm not so sure I want the federal government telling concenting adults they can't enjoy the beneifts of marriage (though I'm with Dave, call it something else, "marriage" is a biblical term and is between a man and a woman)....The federal government should stay out of adults lives.
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FGR01 wrote:
Exactly, let the necros and the pedos get married and live in peace with their significant others!!
motogeezer wrote:
So you believe that gays are also pedophiles, and necrophiliacs?
FGR01 wrote:
No, I'm just saying they are all people with rights and all deserve to be left alone to live the life they choose. Who are we...
No, I'm just saying they are all people with rights and all deserve to be left alone to live the life they choose. Who are we to decide who isn't entitled to their rights?
By comparing homosexuals to child molesters and dead body fuckers, you've shown that you believe that gays are mentally ill.


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8/18/2008 12:17pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2008 12:18pm
flarider wrote:
Bob693 says: "I'm all for allowing the same tax, legal and benifits for a gay couple, just don't call it a marriage." and I can agree...
Bob693 says: "I'm all for allowing the same tax, legal and benifits for a gay couple, just don't call it a marriage."

and I can agree with that
Marriage is a Biblical term, so leave it in that context, Biblical...man and woman

Allow homosexuals "civil unions" with all the same rights and benefits
Most gay people I know, that's all they want too. A civil union with all the same rights and benefits, and I don't personally know anyone that is against that. If they would just leave the term "marriage" out of it, it would be a lot easier for people to accept.
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motogeezer wrote:
By comparing homosexuals to child molesters and dead body fuckers, you've shown that you believe that gays are mentally ill.


It's a typical tact of people who don't like homosexuals
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fcr wrote:
People lash out at what they don't understand or fear. It's like a knee jerk reaction . Gay frightens most people, so they just want to...
People lash out at what they don't understand or fear. It's like a knee jerk reaction . Gay frightens most people, so they just want to lash out. It is easier for their brain, uses less synapses. All people have rights, aren't we in a war for democracy in the ME? We want them to have the same rights as all humans deserve. At least that is what the reason is now.
I agree with that. There was a time when I was younger I was pretty anti-gay. It was not untill I met my g/f's cousin who was gay. At first I think he felt the tension, and he pushed conversation when we were together, I finally asked him if I could ask him questions about being gay or would that offend him, he said I could ask him anything I wanted.

Over the years we have become good friends and I am ashamed that I did not like a group of people that I had never met or inter acted with. I have met some good dudes over the years and some ass holes. just like straight guys.

One of the most pissed off I have ever been was when a group of us were walking out of a bar and a group of guys wanted to kick the shit out of us calling us fags and shit, I was the only straight guy and I wanted to kick the shit out of them badly. I felt like an ass hole when I realized that was me 10 years ago.
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well said wpcjs.

I've never had a strong objection to people due to sexuality...but, that's me for whatever reason. Wasn't part of my programming as a child I guess.

Sooo...most are ok w/ civil unions? And most would be ok with doing away with the legal term "marriage" for everyone? Straight or gay you can have a civil union? A legal binding contract to get equal benefits?

Works for me.

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