back hurts %^&%, what is wrong

jtiger12
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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 6:36pm
came up short on the big tabletop at blue diamond yesterday, blew through the travel on the forks and the shock, felt a little click in my back. Now my back hurts like hell this morning, and I can barely stand up for 2 minutes without loosing my balance. When I curl up in the fetal position, ALL the pain goes away, sitting isn't too bad as long as I recline back, and keep pressure off the spine. Anyone have any ideas what to do? I don't think this is bad enough for a hospital visit, this is about a 5 out of 10 on the pain threshold.
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8/18/2008 5:43am
I would get checked out by an MD as soon as you can.
You could have a compression fracture or even disc damage.

Don't mess around with back injury, it is forever.
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8/18/2008 5:45am
Atleast go to your Doc. My dad did a similar thing to his neck when he was younger. 3 years ago he had surgery where they had to remove some pieces and fuse a couple vertebrae together because of it.
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8/18/2008 5:47am
you hurt your back!
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8/18/2008 5:51am
Lay on your stomach with a pillow under your belly and put ice on it for 20 minutes. Also, take some advil to help reduce any swelling and help the pain, then call the Dr.

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8/18/2008 5:52am
You should have either X rays or and MRI done to make sure that there isn't structural damage done to your spine. If there isn't, go visit a chiropractor and have him treat you.

I've been using a local chiropractor since 1977 and thing have worked well. However, in '78 I shortened two vertebra and now I have spurs and short discs in my back. Today, things aren't the same as it has been for 30 years, and the chiropractor's treatments don't fix me any more.
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8/18/2008 5:55am
Go to a doctor, your spine isn't something to take lightly. I had a similar injury (cased a triple) and ended up having a compression fracture in my L-7.


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8/18/2008 6:15am
Yea, its not too hard to get a compression fracture or to compress some disc. I would have it checked out by your doc.
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8/18/2008 6:16am
From a guy who has back problems, go to a doctor
jtiger12
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8/18/2008 6:49am
thanks. I really didn't want to go, but the reply's on here are pretty one sided. Guess i will make an appt.

This could have all been avoided if I would have bought that dam suspension earlier this year! Good thing I didn't try that triple step down.
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Yeah, go see a doc, preferably an orthopedic surgeon...they do this for a living.


Sounds to me like a compressed disc, or maybe just some microtrauma to a disc or discs resulting in pain.
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jt, go to a doctor man! you want me to post the xray of my spine again?
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Please don't, Scottie
It scares me
8/18/2008 7:06am
I've only ever attempted to go on the main track at Blue Diamond all of once, and I hurt myself in about 4 different ways in under 90 minutes. Grinning

I'd definitely hit the doctor for something like that, it's probably worth at least a couple x-rays, even if the ER would be a waste of time.
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8/18/2008 7:20am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:05pm
I hear you, this is my first injury in a while. The dirt up there is alot softer than it used to be, but you can get hurt pretty bad at the speeds they are running. give the track another try if you havn't been on it in a while. I stopped going there about a year ago, cause it was like an AMA flat track with no good jumps.


I cranked my back trying to clear the tabletop out of the corner by the starting gate. 3rd gear, in the meat on a 450.

scottie, please no re-post. i almost cried when you posted your story on here a while back. i consider myself, very lucky!
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8/18/2008 7:33am
3rd gear on the 450 should have gotten you over that one easy, did you spin?
8/18/2008 8:20am
Optometrist = eye specialist.
Dentist = teeth specialist.
Chiroprator = back specialist.

Since you didn't hurt your eyes or teeth, go see a good chiropractor.
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8/18/2008 8:23am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2008 8:27am
I'm pretty sure it did. The run up on the outside was almost like powder yesterday. I've done the jump a couple times, but never inside to outside like I tried. There were lots of squids there yesterday blowing out all the good berms.

I was watching ty wozney sailing that step down, you done that jump yet?
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8/18/2008 8:28am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:05pm
jtiger12 wrote:
came up short on the big tabletop at blue diamond yesterday, blew through the travel on the forks and the shock, felt a little click in...
came up short on the big tabletop at blue diamond yesterday, blew through the travel on the forks and the shock, felt a little click in my back. Now my back hurts like hell this morning, and I can barely stand up for 2 minutes without loosing my balance. When I curl up in the fetal position, ALL the pain goes away, sitting isn't too bad as long as I recline back, and keep pressure off the spine. Anyone have any ideas what to do? I don't think this is bad enough for a hospital visit, this is about a 5 out of 10 on the pain threshold.
go on www.vaxd.com to see if there is a location with a traction table in your area. Traction therapy would provide immediate relief...before my first session ten years ago I could barely walk and had shooting pain taking my breath away. Half hour later I was a thousand percent better.


www.relaxtheback.com has inversion tables for sale as does www.yukon-fitness.com


Inversion tables are something every off road rider should have in the house or garage to use on a daily basis particularly after spending time on the bike.


Pillow under the stomach and ice was an excellent suggestion by NetMXer


If you see an orthopedic surgeon be prepared to have surgery recommended...they're like carpenters in the sense they have a hammer and everything is a nail. Take your time and don't be rushed into doing anything. Traction therapy kept me from having my herniated L5 removed surgically.


Good luck!
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8/18/2008 8:29am
DoctorJD wrote:
Go to a doctor, your spine isn't something to take lightly. I had a similar injury (cased a triple) and ended up having a compression fracture...
Go to a doctor, your spine isn't something to take lightly. I had a similar injury (cased a triple) and ended up having a compression fracture in my L-7.


There is no such thing as a L-7. Maybe you meant L-5 or C-7?

Anyways definitely put ice on it all day. It could be serious but you can't tell without an MRI. If you have any loss of bowel or urinary control get to the ER ASAP!
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8/18/2008 9:02am
He must be a real doc because he didn't say poop or pee
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8/18/2008 9:18am
Typically, a doctor won't do anything but prescribe rest and pain killers/anti-inflammatories for this type of injury.
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8/18/2008 9:32am
CamP wrote:
Typically, a doctor won't do anything but prescribe rest and pain killers/anti-inflammatories for this type of injury.
I tend to agree. That is why I wanted to get some consensus from you guys. Last night I found my pain killers at the bottom of a bottle of myers rum


those inversion tables look interesting, maybe a possible dual usage!
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jtiger12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it did. The run up on the outside was almost like powder yesterday. I've done the jump a couple times, but never inside...
I'm pretty sure it did. The run up on the outside was almost like powder yesterday. I've done the jump a couple times, but never inside to outside like I tried. There were lots of squids there yesterday blowing out all the good berms.

I was watching ty wozney sailing that step down, you done that jump yet?
That track has come along way with the dirt, problem is now it needs to much water to stay firm otherwise every turn gets blown out. Alan needs to get some of that hard dirt underneath to mix in with all the mulch.

I haven't done that one yet, haven't actually seen anyone do it. I usually take the cheater line to the inside instead of going out way wide and squaring it up like you'd probably have too. I have thought about it a few times though. I'll probably give her a shot next time im down there.
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jndmx wrote:
I would get checked out by an MD as soon as you can. You could have a compression fracture or even disc damage. Don't mess around...
I would get checked out by an MD as soon as you can.
You could have a compression fracture or even disc damage.

Don't mess around with back injury, it is forever.
Why would he wan't to get checked out by a "MotoDriver"?????Cool
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8/18/2008 10:05am
CamP wrote:
Typically, a doctor won't do anything but prescribe rest and pain killers/anti-inflammatories for this type of injury.
I've been lucky and it was just back spasms...anti-inflammatories and pain pills got me through.

But, if it's definitely a good to know based on pictures from the doc.
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jtiger12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it did. The run up on the outside was almost like powder yesterday. I've done the jump a couple times, but never inside...
I'm pretty sure it did. The run up on the outside was almost like powder yesterday. I've done the jump a couple times, but never inside to outside like I tried. There were lots of squids there yesterday blowing out all the good berms.

I was watching ty wozney sailing that step down, you done that jump yet?
bogdan912 wrote:
That track has come along way with the dirt, problem is now it needs to much water to stay firm otherwise every turn gets blown out...
That track has come along way with the dirt, problem is now it needs to much water to stay firm otherwise every turn gets blown out. Alan needs to get some of that hard dirt underneath to mix in with all the mulch.

I haven't done that one yet, haven't actually seen anyone do it. I usually take the cheater line to the inside instead of going out way wide and squaring it up like you'd probably have too. I have thought about it a few times though. I'll probably give her a shot next time im down there.
What jump are you guys talking about now?
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8/18/2008 11:02am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2008 11:17am
the triple step down is right after the big step up in the current track direction. it runs back across the "ridge" they put in a while ago. There was a guy there on a crf450 (#444) that i talked to the other week. He said he had done it 2 times, and the second time he clipped the landing and he hasn't tried it since.


if someone REALLY had a set of brass balls, they could get a 450 up and over the double step up. The face is pretty big now, and you'd get plenty of lift. you'd have to hit it clean though, if you bounced off the top of the second step, it would be a 20ft drop to flat bottom. ouch.
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8/18/2008 11:20am
Don't waste your time with a chiro. doc. Get an MRI and it will tell you immediately if you have disc damage. I did the same thing, hard landing, small pinch feeling in the small of my back, and then couldn't move the next day. Herniated disc. Not trying to scare you but trying to save you time and pain. Ibuprofen until you can get an MRI.
8/18/2008 11:32am
Bengay and pain killers will do the trick.
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8/18/2008 11:37am
If you feel pain in your hip or down your leg you have for sure slipped a disk and it is pressing against a nerve. If the pain localized in the back itself or you have limited range of motion it could be any number of bad things and you for sure should see a doc.

Unfortunately this is probably something you are going to have to live with for a while so try and take care of yourself. I herniated my disk nearly a year ago and I'm apparently sentenced to live with pain down my leg from here on out. I've tried pretty much everything sans surgery with limited gains. Even with surgery most people still live with discomfort.

Best of luck....

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