Austin Stroupe

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4/26/2013 11:03am
jhansen510 wrote:
Google it bro. Not that hard to do. But let me guess. You wont believe them studies done by highly respected educational institutes because its just...
Google it bro. Not that hard to do. But let me guess. You wont believe them studies done by highly respected educational institutes because its just government propaganda.
lol...weren't you done with this thread on page 3, then again on page 5, and now a third time on page 7?

for what its worth...i live in the lake, and i have heard stories floating around about AS very similar to what this guy is saying, I don't at all know AS but I have met him a few times...and the times i have met him, hes been totally cool...and i wish him the best...
4/26/2013 11:04am
TripleFive wrote:
Are there activities that, if done frequently enough, [i]aren't[/i] psychologically addicting? If a person habitually exercises, are there detrimental emotional effects associated with quitting cold turkey...
Are there activities that, if done frequently enough, aren't psychologically addicting?

If a person habitually exercises, are there detrimental emotional effects associated with quitting cold turkey?

What about love? Do we become dependent on the chemical reactions in our brains associated with romantic feelings for another person? Are there withdrawals following a break up?

How about adrenaline? If a person grew up racing dirt bikes and experiencing the thrill that comes with it, does the sudden absence of that emotional excitement carry with it negative implications?

The point I'm trying to tease out here is that we can become dependent on plenty of things. Because something is addicting doesn't make it "bad" - it just indicates that the behavior must be handled responsibly.
Like I tried pointing out only weak minded people use the excuse of the "gateway" drug as a legitimate argument. If you got addicted that's because your mind feels like you can't stop not because you actually can't. If that was te case then people who were once drug addicts would always be one
4/26/2013 11:07am
jhansen510 wrote:
Many people much smarter than you and I would disagree with you. If you never smoke weed to begin with your chances or ever doing any...
Many people much smarter than you and I would disagree with you. If you never smoke weed to begin with your chances or ever doing any other drugs is much higher. Why is that so hard to understand. If you are someone that smokes weed daily how is that any different than someone that gets drunk daily? Please answer this for me oh wise one. Are you just a habitual user and not an addict? Are we going to hear the I can stop anytime argument again?
Alright now I just really want to understand your logic. So your saying if you've never smoked weed before and you were prescribed the pills for...
Alright now I just really want to understand your logic. So your saying if you've never smoked weed before and you were prescribed the pills for your injury you would have never got addicted? Is that correct?
smoker wrote:
yes, that is what he is saying. why is that so hard to understand?
Because it makes no fuckin sence!! Haha this guy is more retarted then a retarted retard.
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4/26/2013 11:09am
I thought this was about Stroupe not everyone elses drug problems

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4/26/2013 11:11am
jhansen510 wrote:
Many people much smarter than you and I would disagree with you. If you never smoke weed to begin with your chances or ever doing any...
Many people much smarter than you and I would disagree with you. If you never smoke weed to begin with your chances or ever doing any other drugs is much higher. Why is that so hard to understand. If you are someone that smokes weed daily how is that any different than someone that gets drunk daily? Please answer this for me oh wise one. Are you just a habitual user and not an addict? Are we going to hear the I can stop anytime argument again?
It's not any different then someone who drinks everyday and ya I do smoke EVERY SINGLE DAY. Just because it was so hard for you to...
It's not any different then someone who drinks everyday and ya I do smoke EVERY SINGLE DAY. Just because it was so hard for you to kick the habit doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. Did you not read where I said I have stopes for months at a time before? It's not hard since there no withdrawal symptoms. It's a fact of mind over matter. Sorry you too weak minded
Do you understand why marijuana has such a long half-life and what that means?
4/26/2013 11:16am
jhansen510 wrote:
Many people much smarter than you and I would disagree with you. If you never smoke weed to begin with your chances or ever doing any...
Many people much smarter than you and I would disagree with you. If you never smoke weed to begin with your chances or ever doing any other drugs is much higher. Why is that so hard to understand. If you are someone that smokes weed daily how is that any different than someone that gets drunk daily? Please answer this for me oh wise one. Are you just a habitual user and not an addict? Are we going to hear the I can stop anytime argument again?
It's not any different then someone who drinks everyday and ya I do smoke EVERY SINGLE DAY. Just because it was so hard for you to...
It's not any different then someone who drinks everyday and ya I do smoke EVERY SINGLE DAY. Just because it was so hard for you to kick the habit doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. Did you not read where I said I have stopes for months at a time before? It's not hard since there no withdrawal symptoms. It's a fact of mind over matter. Sorry you too weak minded
Choppy wrote:
Do you understand why marijuana has such a long half-life and what that means?
Enlighten me please
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4/26/2013 11:18am
Alright now I just really want to understand your logic. So your saying if you've never smoked weed before and you were prescribed the pills for...
Alright now I just really want to understand your logic. So your saying if you've never smoked weed before and you were prescribed the pills for your injury you would have never got addicted? Is that correct?
smoker wrote:
yes, that is what he is saying. why is that so hard to understand?
Because it makes no fuckin sence!! Haha this guy is more retarted then a retarted retard.
Classy.
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4/26/2013 11:18am
TripleFive wrote:
Are there activities that, if done frequently enough, [i]aren't[/i] psychologically addicting? If a person habitually exercises, are there detrimental emotional effects associated with quitting cold turkey...
Are there activities that, if done frequently enough, aren't psychologically addicting?

If a person habitually exercises, are there detrimental emotional effects associated with quitting cold turkey?

What about love? Do we become dependent on the chemical reactions in our brains associated with romantic feelings for another person? Are there withdrawals following a break up?

How about adrenaline? If a person grew up racing dirt bikes and experiencing the thrill that comes with it, does the sudden absence of that emotional excitement carry with it negative implications?

The point I'm trying to tease out here is that we can become dependent on plenty of things. Because something is addicting doesn't make it "bad" - it just indicates that the behavior must be handled responsibly.
Like I tried pointing out only weak minded people use the excuse of the "gateway" drug as a legitimate argument. If you got addicted that's because...
Like I tried pointing out only weak minded people use the excuse of the "gateway" drug as a legitimate argument. If you got addicted that's because your mind feels like you can't stop not because you actually can't. If that was te case then people who were once drug addicts would always be one
It's the physical side of addiction as well as the mental side...
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4/26/2013 11:19am
The amount of time weed stays in your system as opposed to other drugs. Not sure what your point was Choppy.

weed +/- 30 days to clear your system
cocaine +/- 5 days to clear your system
4/26/2013 11:23am
Choppy wrote:
It's the physical side of addiction as well as the mental side...
There are no physical withdrawal symptoms so I'm still missing your point...
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4/26/2013 11:24am
It's not any different then someone who drinks everyday and ya I do smoke EVERY SINGLE DAY. Just because it was so hard for you to...
It's not any different then someone who drinks everyday and ya I do smoke EVERY SINGLE DAY. Just because it was so hard for you to kick the habit doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. Did you not read where I said I have stopes for months at a time before? It's not hard since there no withdrawal symptoms. It's a fact of mind over matter. Sorry you too weak minded
Choppy wrote:
Do you understand why marijuana has such a long half-life and what that means?
Enlighten me please
thc has a half-life of 3 days.

if you have a 100ng of thc in your system, in 3 days it will be 50ng.
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4/26/2013 11:25am
Choppy wrote:
Do you understand why marijuana has such a long half-life and what that means?
Enlighten me please
smoker wrote:
thc has a half-life of 3 days.

if you have a 100ng of thc in your system, in 3 days it will be 50ng.
actually this is true when you are higher in the thc scale. once you get below 100, thc is a little more stubborn and the half life becomes a little longer.
4/26/2013 11:29am
Enlighten me please
smoker wrote:
thc has a half-life of 3 days.

if you have a 100ng of thc in your system, in 3 days it will be 50ng.
smoker wrote:
actually this is true when you are [i]higher[/i] in the thc scale. once you get below 100, thc is a little more stubborn and the half...
actually this is true when you are higher in the thc scale. once you get below 100, thc is a little more stubborn and the half life becomes a little longer.
Does that have anything to do with dependence or withdrawal symptoms? Not trying to be a dick to you smoker but I'm just missing the point of the conversation I guess
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4/26/2013 11:32am
smoker wrote:
thc has a half-life of 3 days.

if you have a 100ng of thc in your system, in 3 days it will be 50ng.
smoker wrote:
actually this is true when you are [i]higher[/i] in the thc scale. once you get below 100, thc is a little more stubborn and the half...
actually this is true when you are higher in the thc scale. once you get below 100, thc is a little more stubborn and the half life becomes a little longer.
Does that have anything to do with dependence or withdrawal symptoms? Not trying to be a dick to you smoker but I'm just missing the point...
Does that have anything to do with dependence or withdrawal symptoms? Not trying to be a dick to you smoker but I'm just missing the point of the conversation I guess
no idea what is has to do with addiction or dependency, not sure what choppy was getting at, I was just explaining what I knew about MJ's half life.

I only know how it pertains to passing a piss test.
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4/26/2013 11:41am
the half life has to do with the haze that smokers live in. I don't care if you guys smoke, but you are living an illusion if you think it doesn't affect you when you aren't specifically getting baked.

As far as the 20 something versus 40 something...arrogance. 20 years isn't that long and you aren't unique. People have been blazing for decades.

Gateway drugs? Yes, pot is a gateway drug. As is tobacco and alcohol. It doesn't compel you to do harder drugs, it just puts you closer to harder drugs.
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4/26/2013 11:45am Edited Date/Time 4/26/2013 11:46am
Headaches, appetite change, digestion problems, cramps and nausea after eating are all physical withdrawal symptoms associated with Marijuana withdraw, especially with long term use.(This was taken from a Duke University test they ran on students)

Withdrawal symptoms typically show up depending on elimination of half life. With that knowledge you should actively be able to identify which drug will take more or less time to show symptoms, as well as how long they should last. (this comes from memory of materials learned)

Now I don't care what you kids do, but it does bother me when people simply post inaccurate information. Ironically you think you've set yourself up well for life, but you managed to get ripped off by someone having a problem with drugs. Maybe you should re-think who you associate with.
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4/26/2013 11:52am
Since we've got all the potheads in one spot, question:

Did you guys like Rush as much or less before you started to smoke pot?

Sincerely Sandberm, non-drug user.Cool
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4/26/2013 12:01pm
Never liked RUSH, weed had nothing to do with it!
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4/26/2013 12:03pm
Always Loved Rush stoned of not.
4/26/2013 12:06pm
Sandberm wrote:
Since we've got all the potheads in one spot, question: [b] Did you guys like Rush as much or less before you started to smoke pot?[/b]...
Since we've got all the potheads in one spot, question:

Did you guys like Rush as much or less before you started to smoke pot?

Sincerely Sandberm, non-drug user.Cool
"Non-drug user"


So you don't drink coffee? What about high-fructose corn syrup? Alcohol?
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4/26/2013 12:14pm
Sandberm wrote:
Since we've got all the potheads in one spot, question: [b] Did you guys like Rush as much or less before you started to smoke pot?[/b]...
Since we've got all the potheads in one spot, question:

Did you guys like Rush as much or less before you started to smoke pot?

Sincerely Sandberm, non-drug user.Cool
TripleFive wrote:
"Non-drug user"


So you don't drink coffee? What about high-fructose corn syrup? Alcohol?
I was tottttaaaalllly triping on some high fructose corn syrup one day. ...I couldnt get enough of the Greg Kihn Band dude. Steve Wright on bass was just nailing it!
4/26/2013 12:19pm
What if I told you that more people die because of HFC than MJ?
4/26/2013 3:16pm
TripleFive wrote:
What if I told you that more people die because of HFC than MJ?
There's never been one reported death of marijuana so you could argue its more likely to win the lotto and get struck by lightning at the same time then die from marijuana lol
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4/26/2013 3:31pm
jhansen510 wrote:
Is marijuana addictive? Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction; that is, people have difficulty controlling their drug use and cannot stop even though it interferes...
Is marijuana addictive?

Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction; that is, people have difficulty controlling their drug use and cannot stop even though it interferes with many aspects of their lives. It is estimated that 9 percent of people who use marijuana will become dependent on it. The number goes up to about 1 in 6 in those who start using young (in their teens) and to 25-50 percent among daily users. Moreover, a study of over 300 fraternal and identical twin pairs found that the twin who had used marijuana before the age of 17 had elevated rates of other drug use and drug problems later on, compared with their twin who did not use before age 17.

According to the 2010 NSDUH, marijuana accounted for 4.5 million of the estimated 7.1 million Americans dependent on or abusing illicit drugs.1 In 2009, approximately 18 percent of people aged 12 and older entering drug abuse treatment programs reported marijuana as their primary drug of abuse; 61 percent of persons under 15 reported marijuana as their primary drug of abuse.10

Marijuana addiction is also linked to a withdrawal syndrome similar to that of nicotine withdrawal, which can make it hard to quit. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeping difficulties, craving, and anxiety. They also show increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately 1 week after they last used the drug.

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That's pretty interesting,thanks for posting.That would explain why it;s no big to some,but a very big deal to others.Difference in body chemistry or how you're wired i guess.
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4/26/2013 3:33pm
Bytor wrote:
Always Loved Rush stoned of not.
Lol,never would have guessedWink

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4/26/2013 3:41pm
Everyone loves an underdog.
4/26/2013 5:28pm
Bashing? Whose bashing? I was friends with him and ya maybe it is a little biased because he dipped out back to the east coast while...
Bashing? Whose bashing? I was friends with him and ya maybe it is a little biased because he dipped out back to the east coast while owing me 500$. His truck broke so I loaned him cash not thinking he would do that. But ask him yourself if the story is true if you don't believe me. I'm not the only one he still owes money too either...
First off, I never smoked and yet I agree with your point of marijuana. However, you stated that you watched a young person unfamiliar with your culture throwing 100's up his nose of Roxicodone which provides an immediate release of oxycodone. I'm also sure that it didn't surprise you that once someone is hooked up to that feeling that his social life begins to take its toll. Here's someone who you know is ruining his life and asking you for $500 even though common sense tells you that he should be in the position of easily fixing or just buying a new truck. I'm sorry you lost $500 and it must be a terrible burden that you are carrying around all these months of your life. Hope you are ready to handle life's true problems without feeling the necessity to sign up on a forum because you want us to know the truth. Thank you for telling me what Stroupe's issue really is. Someday you will see the larger picture in life.
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4/26/2013 6:05pm
jhansen510 wrote:
Is marijuana addictive? Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction; that is, people have difficulty controlling their drug use and cannot stop even though it interferes...
Is marijuana addictive?

Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction; that is, people have difficulty controlling their drug use and cannot stop even though it interferes with many aspects of their lives. It is estimated that 9 percent of people who use marijuana will become dependent on it. The number goes up to about 1 in 6 in those who start using young (in their teens) and to 25-50 percent among daily users. Moreover, a study of over 300 fraternal and identical twin pairs found that the twin who had used marijuana before the age of 17 had elevated rates of other drug use and drug problems later on, compared with their twin who did not use before age 17.

According to the 2010 NSDUH, marijuana accounted for 4.5 million of the estimated 7.1 million Americans dependent on or abusing illicit drugs.1 In 2009, approximately 18 percent of people aged 12 and older entering drug abuse treatment programs reported marijuana as their primary drug of abuse; 61 percent of persons under 15 reported marijuana as their primary drug of abuse.10

Marijuana addiction is also linked to a withdrawal syndrome similar to that of nicotine withdrawal, which can make it hard to quit. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeping difficulties, craving, and anxiety. They also show increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately 1 week after they last used the drug.

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ford832 wrote:
That's pretty interesting,thanks for posting.That would explain why it;s no big to some,but a very big deal to others.Difference in body chemistry or how you're wired...
That's pretty interesting,thanks for posting.That would explain why it;s no big to some,but a very big deal to others.Difference in body chemistry or how you're wired i guess.
WOW a whole 9% of users get addicted.....that's scary. I had to burn one just to read the extra 4 pages that have come up since I left work..... I was told some of the best comes from Mannitoba of all places, I wonder if matthes can chime in on this.

1 or 2 times a year I grow my own in a small purpose built hut and been doing that for years.....its nice to have around but I wouldn't miss it if I didn't smoke but hell for as much pain as my body exhibits I think its a HELLUVA LOT BETTER THAN OPIATES. Which if taken regularly for a while are 100% addictive and nobody in California cares about weed anymore since its basically legal so why are we even comparing the two? Theyre not even on the same ballpark..............
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4/26/2013 8:09pm
jhansen510 wrote:
Guess what kid. You sound like a fucking moron. Weed is absolutely a gateway drug you are just to young and stupid to know it yet...
Guess what kid. You sound like a fucking moron. Weed is absolutely a gateway drug you are just to young and stupid to know it yet. Want to know how I know? I smoked weed for 10 years. Guess what after so many years of smoking weed it led to other things. Like getting addicted to pain killers to the point where I was spending a grand a week on them. Clean for 2 years now. You will either smarten up some day and realize that weed to is a drug and affects you in a huge way. Especially if you smoke it all day everyday. Or else you will be a burnt out 60 year old that has gone nowhere in life and still hangs out with kids and smoke weed missing out on all the things that really matter in life like kids, family, etc. Took me waaaay to long to figure it out, but I did. Guess what. I wish I would of figured it out earlier. Hope you do.
What do you base this conclusion on?
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4/26/2013 8:17pm
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I don't get why he is getting slammed for saying what he knew, and it does sound very legit!! People ask about him someone seems to...
I don't get why he is getting slammed for saying what he knew, and it does sound very legit!! People ask about him someone seems to state more facts then they can give and he gets slammed.. As you guys stated not the first and not the last..

I know of a 125 Supercross champ in jail now for dealing large amounts of ICE. It happens! Fuck some of these pro's get some pretty narly injuries , and spend some time in their careers on OXY, Endone etc can't really balme them sometimes how they get addicted.

Worse I was ever given was Endone and 20mg Oxy and fuck me it felt good and made me think of them when doc stopped giving them to me for my broken wrist.

Now I had a friend who broke both elbows - they had him on 80mg Oxy plus Endone, he was fully hooked, weened off them, then spiral fractured his femur and back on them, he even said fuck it is ahrd geting off these things.

Why would Stroupe be any different, he had some bad injuires back to back.

Can't blame him really, it happens when you break shit and need pain killers.

I liked to read the insite on him..
I busted myself up plenty losing a leg in the process...I never took many pain pill and I never was hooked on them. What does that make me? One tuff mufucker....lol

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