This is the loving God, eh?

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burn1986 wrote:
I think you mean, this loving god: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/05/23/bangladesh_muslims_kill_hindu_friday_prayer_86409.jpg[/img]
I think you mean, this loving god:
Careful what you're pointing out. They worship the same God of Abraham that Christians do.

Where you guys differ is what prophet is the right one. You think that Jesus is the right one and Islam says it's Mohamed. I say it's all a bunch of baloney and wonder what all the fighting is for.
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So are you saying it's wrong to be "homo"? Man, these guys are gonna jump on this like crazy. It sounds like you're talking about Catholics...
So are you saying it's wrong to be "homo"? Man, these guys are gonna jump on this like crazy. It sounds like you're talking about Catholics too. Dude, you just jumped into it.
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No, I said "not that there is anything wrong with it" But I am saying that god is portrayed as an old gay man. There is...
No, I said "not that there is anything wrong with it" But I am saying that god is portrayed as an old gay man. There is nothing heterosexual about that character. And I am saying that people who are so strongly against gays are usually gays themselves. I am not gay, so I have nothing against gays and their marriages.
I see, so you being "not" gay does that mean you are against non-gay people or does your logic get applied specifically?
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burn1986 wrote:
So are you saying it's wrong to be "homo"? Man, these guys are gonna jump on this like crazy. It sounds like you're talking about Catholics...
So are you saying it's wrong to be "homo"? Man, these guys are gonna jump on this like crazy. It sounds like you're talking about Catholics too. Dude, you just jumped into it.
J.F.S wrote:
No, I said "not that there is anything wrong with it" But I am saying that god is portrayed as an old gay man. There is...
No, I said "not that there is anything wrong with it" But I am saying that god is portrayed as an old gay man. There is nothing heterosexual about that character. And I am saying that people who are so strongly against gays are usually gays themselves. I am not gay, so I have nothing against gays and their marriages.
Mr. G wrote:
I see, so you being "not" gay does that mean you are against non-gay people or does your logic get applied specifically?
I think what he is trying to say is, are you against non-gay people who like to ride quads?

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Its hard to believe that anybody with half a brain could sit through five minutes of that guys drivel.
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5/26/2012 12:44am Edited Date/Time 5/26/2012 12:47am
burn1986 wrote:
So are you saying it's wrong to be "homo"? Man, these guys are gonna jump on this like crazy. It sounds like you're talking about Catholics...
So are you saying it's wrong to be "homo"? Man, these guys are gonna jump on this like crazy. It sounds like you're talking about Catholics too. Dude, you just jumped into it.
J.F.S wrote:
No, I said "not that there is anything wrong with it" But I am saying that god is portrayed as an old gay man. There is...
No, I said "not that there is anything wrong with it" But I am saying that god is portrayed as an old gay man. There is nothing heterosexual about that character. And I am saying that people who are so strongly against gays are usually gays themselves. I am not gay, so I have nothing against gays and their marriages.
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I see, so you being "not" gay does that mean you are against non-gay people or does your logic get applied specifically?
No I am not against non-gay people, I am not against anyone due to their sexuality. That is the difference between you and me, I dont have to chose someone to be against, hate or be afraid of like you do. And yes, I am convinced that you are gay or at least an in the closet bisexual, trying to convince yourself that your are heterosexual by spewing hate over yourself. Dude, there is nothing wrong with it!
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In see that you are not going to answer the question and you changed the subject so I will have to assume that you're earlier "logic" must be applied when it suits. Nice try.
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In see that you are not going to answer the question and you changed the subject so I will have to assume that you're earlier "logic"...
In see that you are not going to answer the question and you changed the subject so I will have to assume that you're earlier "logic" must be applied when it suits. Nice try.
I did answer, you just cant comprehend that you dont have to pick teams, Just because I am for gay marriage does not mean I am against heterosexuals. I am for both. Can you comprehend that concept or are you to eager to hate and judge?
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Science tries to categorize the brain and thought processes through Myers Briggs temperament tests. Could benefit some to understand just why they think the way they do, and why others are 'hardwired' the way they are. It's not nature v nurture but, a combination of both.

http://similarminds.com/jung.html
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In see that you are not going to answer the question and you changed the subject so I will have to assume that you're earlier "logic"...
In see that you are not going to answer the question and you changed the subject so I will have to assume that you're earlier "logic" must be applied when it suits. Nice try.
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I did answer, you just cant comprehend that you dont have to pick teams, Just because I am for gay marriage does not mean I am...
I did answer, you just cant comprehend that you dont have to pick teams, Just because I am for gay marriage does not mean I am against heterosexuals. I am for both. Can you comprehend that concept or are you to eager to hate and judge?
Great, I do understand that you can be OK with both. Now point out where I said anything hateful.
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5/26/2012 11:31pm Edited Date/Time 5/26/2012 11:32pm
Mr. G wrote:
In see that you are not going to answer the question and you changed the subject so I will have to assume that you're earlier "logic"...
In see that you are not going to answer the question and you changed the subject so I will have to assume that you're earlier "logic" must be applied when it suits. Nice try.
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I did answer, you just cant comprehend that you dont have to pick teams, Just because I am for gay marriage does not mean I am...
I did answer, you just cant comprehend that you dont have to pick teams, Just because I am for gay marriage does not mean I am against heterosexuals. I am for both. Can you comprehend that concept or are you to eager to hate and judge?
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Great, I do understand that you can be OK with both. Now point out where I said anything hateful.
Due to your posts, I have to assume that you DONT think it is an elementary, basic, human right to love who ever you love. IMO that attitude is hateful. Or do you agree with Obama and most other civilized people, that gays should be able to love each other and get married?
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you should, perhaps, dig deeper into the essence of the underlying meaning behind the thought process of the recipients reply.
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5/27/2012 12:37am Edited Date/Time 5/27/2012 12:40am
wildbill wrote:
you should, perhaps, dig deeper into the essence of the underlying meaning behind the thought process of the recipients reply.
It is not that deep, it is pretty shallow actually. You go around worrying about who other people love, maybe afraid that you yourself will start to love the "wrong" person. I on the other hand do not worry that much, let people love each other. I do understand why this feels deep and complex to some of you people, but that has to do with you personally, there is nothing wrong with it!.
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I did answer, you just cant comprehend that you dont have to pick teams, Just because I am for gay marriage does not mean I am...
I did answer, you just cant comprehend that you dont have to pick teams, Just because I am for gay marriage does not mean I am against heterosexuals. I am for both. Can you comprehend that concept or are you to eager to hate and judge?
Mr. G wrote:
Great, I do understand that you can be OK with both. Now point out where I said anything hateful.
J.F.S wrote:
Due to your posts, I have to assume that you DONT think it is an elementary, basic, human right to love who ever you love. IMO...
Due to your posts, I have to assume that you DONT think it is an elementary, basic, human right to love who ever you love. IMO that attitude is hateful. Or do you agree with Obama and most other civilized people, that gays should be able to love each other and get married?
Nice try. Show me the posts. Don't exist. You assume, and then are non tolerant of the viewpoint that you created. By the way are you talking about Obama's viewpoint this week or two weeks ago. They are opposite. Now for arguments sake lets say your take is true. Why so intolerant. I don't mind if you have a different view. Are you a Democrat?
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5/27/2012 2:18am Edited Date/Time 5/27/2012 2:33am
Mr. G wrote:
Great, I do understand that you can be OK with both. Now point out where I said anything hateful.
J.F.S wrote:
Due to your posts, I have to assume that you DONT think it is an elementary, basic, human right to love who ever you love. IMO...
Due to your posts, I have to assume that you DONT think it is an elementary, basic, human right to love who ever you love. IMO that attitude is hateful. Or do you agree with Obama and most other civilized people, that gays should be able to love each other and get married?
Mr. G wrote:
Nice try. Show me the posts. Don't exist. You assume, and then are non tolerant of the viewpoint that you created. By the way are you...
Nice try. Show me the posts. Don't exist. You assume, and then are non tolerant of the viewpoint that you created. By the way are you talking about Obama's viewpoint this week or two weeks ago. They are opposite. Now for arguments sake lets say your take is true. Why so intolerant. I don't mind if you have a different view. Are you a Democrat?
LOL, regarding Obamas view, I don know, what is it this week? I really dont think this issue is democrat vs republican though, I think it is humane vs inhumane rather. Regarding your view, I can only assume you dont think gays should be able to get married or love each other, or else why would you argue with me when these issues show up? You have a hard time really expressing your opinion, you rather attack mine, but lets hear it, what say you? Should homosexual human beings be able to love each other and get married? Yes or no? A very important thing you have to take in, there is a huge difference between opinion and race/sexuality. Opinion is something you can chose or form and change. Race and sexuality is something you are born with. Therefor there is a difference between criticizing or being intolerant towards someones opinion and criticizing or being intolerant towards someone race or sexuality. If I am intolerant towards nazis, it is not the same as if I am intolerant towards jews, do you see the difference. You can have a discussion regarding opinion without being intolerant, discussing opinions is the foundation of democracy and being tolerant towards different races and sexuality should also be foundations of a democracy.
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The reason I argued with you is you assumed what my viewpoint was all the while attacking it. You use Obama to make a point and when I point out that his idea changed just recently suddenly it is not a Republican vs Democrat thing even though YOU brought it up. I didn't. I have stated that I am fine with any viewpoint you have and then you post how I am intolerant. I still am, so if that it intolerance then sign me up.
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Mr. G wrote:
The reason I argued with you is you assumed what my viewpoint was all the while attacking it. You use Obama to make a point and...
The reason I argued with you is you assumed what my viewpoint was all the while attacking it. You use Obama to make a point and when I point out that his idea changed just recently suddenly it is not a Republican vs Democrat thing even though YOU brought it up. I didn't. I have stated that I am fine with any viewpoint you have and then you post how I am intolerant. I still am, so if that it intolerance then sign me up.
So are you intolerant or not? Are you fine with homosexuals getting married or not? Are you fine with people of same sex loving each other or not? Two questions, that will define if you are intolerant regarding this matter or not. Lets not take detours? You might be tolerant or you might not be, but your posting hint intolerant, why keep people guessing and start a discussion if there really is nothing to discuss? You dont have to be fine with my opinions to be tolerant, I just said that being able to have different opinions is part of a tolerant democracy, however some opinions can be intolerant an unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society.
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Mr. G wrote:
The reason I argued with you is you assumed what my viewpoint was all the while attacking it. You use Obama to make a point and...
The reason I argued with you is you assumed what my viewpoint was all the while attacking it. You use Obama to make a point and when I point out that his idea changed just recently suddenly it is not a Republican vs Democrat thing even though YOU brought it up. I didn't. I have stated that I am fine with any viewpoint you have and then you post how I am intolerant. I still am, so if that it intolerance then sign me up.
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So are you intolerant or not? Are you fine with homosexuals getting married or not? Are you fine with people of same sex loving each other...
So are you intolerant or not? Are you fine with homosexuals getting married or not? Are you fine with people of same sex loving each other or not? Two questions, that will define if you are intolerant regarding this matter or not. Lets not take detours? You might be tolerant or you might not be, but your posting hint intolerant, why keep people guessing and start a discussion if there really is nothing to discuss? You dont have to be fine with my opinions to be tolerant, I just said that being able to have different opinions is part of a tolerant democracy, however some opinions can be intolerant an unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society.
"If I am intolerant towards nazis, it is not the same as if I am intolerant towards jews, do you see the difference".

"some opinions can be intolerant an unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society."

Yeah, like the way you Swedes chose to be tolerant of Nazis and intolerant of Jews.
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The reason I argued with you is you assumed what my viewpoint was all the while attacking it. You use Obama to make a point and...
The reason I argued with you is you assumed what my viewpoint was all the while attacking it. You use Obama to make a point and when I point out that his idea changed just recently suddenly it is not a Republican vs Democrat thing even though YOU brought it up. I didn't. I have stated that I am fine with any viewpoint you have and then you post how I am intolerant. I still am, so if that it intolerance then sign me up.
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So are you intolerant or not? Are you fine with homosexuals getting married or not? Are you fine with people of same sex loving each other...
So are you intolerant or not? Are you fine with homosexuals getting married or not? Are you fine with people of same sex loving each other or not? Two questions, that will define if you are intolerant regarding this matter or not. Lets not take detours? You might be tolerant or you might not be, but your posting hint intolerant, why keep people guessing and start a discussion if there really is nothing to discuss? You dont have to be fine with my opinions to be tolerant, I just said that being able to have different opinions is part of a tolerant democracy, however some opinions can be intolerant an unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society.
[b]"If I am intolerant towards nazis, it is not the same as if I am intolerant towards jews, do you see the difference".[/b] [b]"some opinions can...
"If I am intolerant towards nazis, it is not the same as if I am intolerant towards jews, do you see the difference".

"some opinions can be intolerant an unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society."

Yeah, like the way you Swedes chose to be tolerant of Nazis and intolerant of Jews.
What? First of all, you are generally you are wrong, Sweden is not officially pro nazis, second of all, all Swedes are not the same, we live in a democracy with diverse opinions. I dont know where you get your info from, but it would be closer to the truth to say that you americans chose to be tolerant of slavery and intolerant of black people. If you are afraid of homosexuals, too bad for you, but lets discuss that then, instead of something you just made up.
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So are you intolerant or not? Are you fine with homosexuals getting married or not? Are you fine with people of same sex loving each other...
So are you intolerant or not? Are you fine with homosexuals getting married or not? Are you fine with people of same sex loving each other or not? Two questions, that will define if you are intolerant regarding this matter or not. Lets not take detours? You might be tolerant or you might not be, but your posting hint intolerant, why keep people guessing and start a discussion if there really is nothing to discuss? You dont have to be fine with my opinions to be tolerant, I just said that being able to have different opinions is part of a tolerant democracy, however some opinions can be intolerant an unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society.
[b]"If I am intolerant towards nazis, it is not the same as if I am intolerant towards jews, do you see the difference".[/b] [b]"some opinions can...
"If I am intolerant towards nazis, it is not the same as if I am intolerant towards jews, do you see the difference".

"some opinions can be intolerant an unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society."

Yeah, like the way you Swedes chose to be tolerant of Nazis and intolerant of Jews.
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What? First of all, you are generally you are wrong, Sweden is not officially pro nazis, second of all, all Swedes are not the same, we...
What? First of all, you are generally you are wrong, Sweden is not officially pro nazis, second of all, all Swedes are not the same, we live in a democracy with diverse opinions. I dont know where you get your info from, but it would be closer to the truth to say that you americans chose to be tolerant of slavery and intolerant of black people. If you are afraid of homosexuals, too bad for you, but lets discuss that then, instead of something you just made up.
I am not saying Sweden is officially pro Nazi I am just saying when you had the opportunity to either help the Nazis or oppose them, your country chose to help them. That's all. Nothing more.
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Is this you way of saying that you don think people should be able to love who ever they love?
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Is this you way of saying that you don think people should be able to love who ever they love?
No, I just found it ironic that you would bring up Nazis in a discussion of how tolerant you are.

Is supporting the Nazis "unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society."?
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Is this you way of saying that you don think people should be able to love who ever they love?
No, I just found it ironic that you would bring up Nazis in a discussion of how tolerant you are. Is supporting the Nazis "[b]unworthy of...
No, I just found it ironic that you would bring up Nazis in a discussion of how tolerant you are.

Is supporting the Nazis "unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society."?
Why is that ironic? Even if Sweden did support nazis, if what you are saying was true, I would not think that was right. I would still think it was unworthy of a democracy and a civilized society, much like I think the anti gay preaching is. Do you blindly support everything just because it is from America or American? Do you think that you are ironic if you speak up against slavery? I far from agree with everything Swedens government does, I would actually be more upset if the Swedish government did bad things, than I would any other country, since I live here. Are you saying you are more likely to support wrong doings by your government, just because you are american? I dont understand that logic?
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you should, perhaps, dig deeper into the essence of the underlying meaning behind the thought process of the recipients reply.
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It is not that deep, it is pretty shallow actually. You go around worrying about who other people love, maybe afraid that you yourself will start...
It is not that deep, it is pretty shallow actually. You go around worrying about who other people love, maybe afraid that you yourself will start to love the "wrong" person. I on the other hand do not worry that much, let people love each other. I do understand why this feels deep and complex to some of you people, but that has to do with you personally, there is nothing wrong with it!.
you got me all wrong on this one j.f.s.

My god doesn't hate gay people and if they love each other, let em marry. I don't give a rip one way or the other.
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wildbill wrote:
you should, perhaps, dig deeper into the essence of the underlying meaning behind the thought process of the recipients reply.
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It is not that deep, it is pretty shallow actually. You go around worrying about who other people love, maybe afraid that you yourself will start...
It is not that deep, it is pretty shallow actually. You go around worrying about who other people love, maybe afraid that you yourself will start to love the "wrong" person. I on the other hand do not worry that much, let people love each other. I do understand why this feels deep and complex to some of you people, but that has to do with you personally, there is nothing wrong with it!.
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you got me all wrong on this one j.f.s. My god doesn't hate gay people and if they love each other, let em marry. I don't...
you got me all wrong on this one j.f.s.

My god doesn't hate gay people and if they love each other, let em marry. I don't give a rip one way or the other.
Good for you, sorry for the misunderstanding.
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George Carlin got it right.
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George Carlin got it right.
Yep
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MrG is awfully quiet now, that says a lot about where he stands on the issue, just sayin´ And Carlin was one funny dude!
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I am not saying Sweden is officially pro Nazi I am just saying when you had the opportunity to either help the Nazis or oppose them...
I am not saying Sweden is officially pro Nazi I am just saying when you had the opportunity to either help the Nazis or oppose them, your country chose to help them. That's all. Nothing more.
And you don't know jack shit about what it was like over there when that was happening, except what the history books tell you. My grandparents, father, and family were in Slovakia when the Nazis invaded their country. There were many stories they told me about how the Nazis gave them jobs, let them retain their wealth, and actually helped them. In fact, they would've much rather had the Nazis in their land as opposed to the Russians, because the Russians took their land, their wealth, their jobs, and basically shit all over them. And, to top it off, the Russians were running around killing as many young men because they were afraid there would be revolt.

And, yanno what? The US stepped back and let the Russians do it. So, what does that make us?

Fucking pretentious, uninformed Americans....pisses me off.

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