Here's what you have to do to protest.

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Edited Date/Time 4/14/2012 3:19pm
A4 Protests
a. Protests must be lodged according to the Disciplinary and
Arbitration Code of the FIM and the Supplementary
Regulations and be accompanied by a fee of US $800,
returnable if the protest is justified.
b. If the protest entails dismantling a motorcycle, the protest fee
must be accompanied by an additional deposit of US $150.
This fee must be paid by the losing party to the mechanic of
the rider who had to perform the dismantling procedure.
c. Protests entailing a fuel control must be accompanied by an
additional deposit of US $1,000
d. Unless specifically excluded herein, riders may lodge protests
on any matter regarding an event in which they were a
participant. Such matters may include, but are not limited to,
the conformity of a machine with these rules or the eligibility of
a rider.
e. There are two types of protests: technical and administrative.
Technical protests relate to the legality of motorcycles and
components used in competition. All other protests will be
defined as administrative.
f. Each protest must be made separately and in writing. Each
protest must specify the violation of the AMA Supercross an
FIM World Championship rules or procedures that is alleged,
and must be accompanied by the filing fee.
g. All protests must be filed within 30 minutes of the posting of
results of the event in question. The posting of provisional
results begins the 30-minute protest period.
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4/13/2012 9:59pm
This also answers the question of who is liable, the Riders Mechanic has to do the tear down.
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4/13/2012 10:06pm
so who protested?
The AMA Technical crew can do this on their own, I posted this to let the 2 stroke Taliban know how they can help Renner protest someone big.
4/13/2012 10:09pm
you dont think guys from PC and FC read this forum? do that shit at vegas. or better yet, hangtown. thats when id suspect a big bore.

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you dont think guys from PC and FC read this forum? do that shit at vegas. or better yet, hangtown. thats when id suspect a big...
you dont think guys from PC and FC read this forum? do that shit at vegas. or better yet, hangtown. thats when id suspect a big bore.
Privateers are the ones cheating on bore and stroke.

the big boys are doing it to a point nobody at Tech is going to catch them.
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4/13/2012 11:05pm
500guy wrote:
This also answers the question of who is liable, the Riders Mechanic has to do the tear down.
Assuming they have a mechanic.

I think most people know how protesting (from other riders/teams) works, not sure why you posted this other than to get a bunch of people to respond at which point you can call them crazy two stroke fans.
4/13/2012 11:08pm
if people got the extra coin to toss around, i think it would be cool. i just hope they are there with a camera. video would be best.
i dont think ive ever seen a big name bike motor apart.
4/14/2012 2:15am
what about claiming a bike then really tearing it down?
not sure if you can claim at the pro level.....
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4/14/2012 2:28am
GO! GO! GO! GO!
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4/14/2012 4:35am
I'll chip in if the bike protested is a hONdA
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4/14/2012 5:58am
Spartacus wrote:
I'll chip in if the bike protested is a hONdA
Laughing and the riders name starts with a "cough" "cough" B Whistling
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4/14/2012 5:59am
500guy wrote:
This also answers the question of who is liable, the Riders Mechanic has to do the tear down.
seth505 wrote:
Assuming they have a mechanic. I think most people know how protesting (from other riders/teams) works, not sure why you posted this other than to get...
Assuming they have a mechanic.

I think most people know how protesting (from other riders/teams) works, not sure why you posted this other than to get a bunch of people to respond at which point you can call them crazy two stroke fans.
I posted it because people were questioning how much it cost to protest. and it's a Professional race what kind of professional shows up without a Mechanic ?
4/14/2012 6:17am
"Each protest must specify the violation"

Does this mean that the protest much be specific about what part of the bike is illegal? If so, Would you have to file multiple protests if you said the suspension had illegal parts as well as the engine? And does it mean that you must be specific about what part is illegal, not just what area?

Or can you simply file the protest saying that the bike has illegal parts and that covers everything?
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4/14/2012 6:47am
I don't see anything that say's the AMA can give a random hours before the race even goes off.
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4/14/2012 6:51am
Seems to indicate a post race inspection be performed, not before as Renner is having done.

I do think its bullshit to pull his motor down pre-race, especially for a privateer I'll bet not all the privateers have a mechanic present at the track capable of getting the added complexity of a four stroke motor apart and back together prior to practice.

I certainly hope (but highly doubt) that the AMA was told directly by Renner or his team that he ran a 144cc at Daytona to warrant the treatment he's being given. If their relying on a post on an internet forum that he "cheated" to validate their teardown; well that would seem waaay off-base in my opinion. If thats the case then maybe Mitch Payton will sign-in and post here next week that his team is running a cheater bike???
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4/14/2012 7:28am
Top three and two random main event finishers should be bubbled at every event to verify cc's ...... a simple 5min procedure.
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4/14/2012 7:49am
500guy wrote:
This also answers the question of who is liable, the Riders Mechanic has to do the tear down.
seth505 wrote:
Assuming they have a mechanic. I think most people know how protesting (from other riders/teams) works, not sure why you posted this other than to get...
Assuming they have a mechanic.

I think most people know how protesting (from other riders/teams) works, not sure why you posted this other than to get a bunch of people to respond at which point you can call them crazy two stroke fans.
500guy wrote:
I posted it because people were questioning how much it cost to protest. and it's a Professional race what kind of professional shows up without a...
I posted it because people were questioning how much it cost to protest. and it's a Professional race what kind of professional shows up without a Mechanic ?
I remember some east coast guys showing up without mechanics and doing well before they got factory rides. People like John Dowd and Doug Henry, you may have heard of them.
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4/14/2012 8:02am
KMC440 wrote:
Top three and two random main event finishers should be bubbled at every event to verify cc's ...... a simple 5min procedure.
I'm with this. It happens at the amateur level, why not the professional level?
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4/14/2012 10:19am
I'm in with some cash as long as it's a bike that starts with the letter "Honda" and the riders initials are "Justin Barcia"
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4/14/2012 10:38am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2012 10:46am
Seems to indicate a post race inspection be performed, not before as Renner is having done. I do think its bullshit to pull his motor down...
Seems to indicate a post race inspection be performed, not before as Renner is having done.

I do think its bullshit to pull his motor down pre-race, especially for a privateer I'll bet not all the privateers have a mechanic present at the track capable of getting the added complexity of a four stroke motor apart and back together prior to practice.

I certainly hope (but highly doubt) that the AMA was told directly by Renner or his team that he ran a 144cc at Daytona to warrant the treatment he's being given. If their relying on a post on an internet forum that he "cheated" to validate their teardown; well that would seem waaay off-base in my opinion. If thats the case then maybe Mitch Payton will sign-in and post here next week that his team is running a cheater bike???
Renner came on and said that its not being done before the race, its going to be done after.


Oh and 500 you can bitch about the 2 stroke taliban as much as you would like, but even you have to admit the Renner story has been entertaining and enjoyable to watch even if you aren't rooting for him. With so many of the top guys out with injury the side stories have been making up the difference.
4/14/2012 2:08pm
"Each protest must specify the violation" Does this mean that the protest much be specific about what part of the bike is illegal? If so, Would...
"Each protest must specify the violation"

Does this mean that the protest much be specific about what part of the bike is illegal? If so, Would you have to file multiple protests if you said the suspension had illegal parts as well as the engine? And does it mean that you must be specific about what part is illegal, not just what area?

Or can you simply file the protest saying that the bike has illegal parts and that covers everything?
No one knows?
4/14/2012 2:39pm
so who protested?
500guy wrote:
The AMA Technical crew can do this on their own, I posted this to let the 2 stroke Taliban know how they can help Renner protest...
The AMA Technical crew can do this on their own, I posted this to let the 2 stroke Taliban know how they can help Renner protest someone big.
So if the AMA does this on their own do they put up the deposit themselves? If Renner doesn't have a mechanic and after dismantling his bike it is found to be legal does the AMA have to pay him $150?
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4/14/2012 3:19pm Edited Date/Time 4/14/2012 3:19pm
500guy wrote:
This also answers the question of who is liable, the Riders Mechanic has to do the tear down.
seth505 wrote:
Assuming they have a mechanic. I think most people know how protesting (from other riders/teams) works, not sure why you posted this other than to get...
Assuming they have a mechanic.

I think most people know how protesting (from other riders/teams) works, not sure why you posted this other than to get a bunch of people to respond at which point you can call them crazy two stroke fans.
500guy wrote:
I posted it because people were questioning how much it cost to protest. and it's a Professional race what kind of professional shows up without a...
I posted it because people were questioning how much it cost to protest. and it's a Professional race what kind of professional shows up without a Mechanic ?
The kind of professional who is paid in dog biscuits by there chosen profession's organizing body?

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