supercross should be called stupidcross

crfby
Profile picture for user crfby
Posts
98
Joined
4/18/2010
Location
Prairie Du Sac, WI, USA
crfby
Edited Date/Time 3/10/2012 1:59pm
Yeh thats right, i have followed this sport for 15 years and i have to say im am finaly fed up. Racer x injury report has over 30 guys on it. They need to do something to help stop these injuries. When nascar had a problem like this they changed everything. Thats what needs to happen here if they truly want to see racing or is it they just want to see guys crashing? Wana fix this sport ,mandate neck protection,plastic chest and spine protetection and knee braces. If everybody has to were them there will be no advantage( heat,mobility) to not wearing hem. Have very short starts( then anybody could get hole shot) wider and easier tracks,even if this means shorter lap time, then race more laps. And if all this doesnt solve problem dump the 450s. Supercross class is modified 250s and lites is stock 250. Or do nothing and continue year after year with only one main guy surviving. I know if they did this the racing would be awesome but i truly wonder if the masses even cares about that.
|
Wolfman
Profile picture for user Wolfman
Posts
2675
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Bixby, OK, USA
Wolfman 3/9/2012 6:57pm
3/9/2012 6:57pm
I like turtles.
sbarrington314 3/9/2012 7:09pm
3/9/2012 7:09pm
the only thing stupid, is your post.
crfby
Profile picture for user crfby
Posts
98
Joined
4/18/2010
Location
Prairie Du Sac, WI, USA
crfby 3/9/2012 7:12pm
3/9/2012 7:12pm
Wow that took some thought
theGOON
Profile picture for user theGOON
Posts
18
Joined
2/13/2012
Location
Newport Beach, CA, USA
theGOON 3/9/2012 7:12pm
3/9/2012 7:12pm
crfby wrote:
Yeh thats right, i have followed this sport for 15 years and i have to say im am finaly fed up. Racer x injury report has...
Yeh thats right, i have followed this sport for 15 years and i have to say im am finaly fed up. Racer x injury report has over 30 guys on it. They need to do something to help stop these injuries. When nascar had a problem like this they changed everything. Thats what needs to happen here if they truly want to see racing or is it they just want to see guys crashing? Wana fix this sport ,mandate neck protection,plastic chest and spine protetection and knee braces. If everybody has to were them there will be no advantage( heat,mobility) to not wearing hem. Have very short starts( then anybody could get hole shot) wider and easier tracks,even if this means shorter lap time, then race more laps. And if all this doesnt solve problem dump the 450s. Supercross class is modified 250s and lites is stock 250. Or do nothing and continue year after year with only one main guy surviving. I know if they did this the racing would be awesome but i truly wonder if the masses even cares about that.
then don't watch it and get off these message boards.. you obviously care about the sport if you are still reading and posting on here!

The Shop

See All »
TX24
Profile picture for user TX24
Posts
2767
Joined
5/7/2010
Location
San Antonio, TX, USA
TX24 3/9/2012 7:14pm
3/9/2012 7:14pm
They could take out all the jumps and woops. Except flattrack is dangerous also.
roughneck
Profile picture for user roughneck
Posts
436
Joined
1/22/2010
Location
Jefferson, OR, USA
roughneck 3/9/2012 7:14pm
3/9/2012 7:14pm
crfbi guy...

suck it
ocscottie
Profile picture for user ocscottie
Posts
69092
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Redding, CA, USA
ocscottie 3/9/2012 7:15pm
3/9/2012 7:15pm
I only got as far as reading the title of his thread, didnt think i needed to go any further lol Gibby said it should be renamed the "Monster Energy Survivor Series" Grinning
Sherwood
Profile picture for user Sherwood
Posts
3682
Joined
5/12/2010
Location
USA
Sherwood 3/9/2012 7:16pm
3/9/2012 7:16pm
Riding MX bikes is dangerous regardless if it's SX or MX.
Spartacus
Profile picture for user Spartacus
Posts
2269
Joined
5/20/2011
Location
USA
Spartacus 3/9/2012 7:20pm
3/9/2012 7:20pm
Blue Tupperware is my fav.
TannerMxer
Profile picture for user TannerMxer
Posts
1495
Joined
1/5/2010
Location
Ventura, CA, USA
TannerMxer 3/9/2012 7:20pm
3/9/2012 7:20pm
Get 2-strokes back. The 4-strokes are great and could be used Outdoors exclusively. They are just too much power in Supercross.
AUS_Twisted
Profile picture for user AUS_Twisted
Posts
1150
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Melbourne, AU
AUS_Twisted 3/9/2012 7:20pm
3/9/2012 7:20pm Edited Date/Time 3/9/2012 7:29pm
I agree with the 450 part, having such powerful efficient bikes is killing this sport indoors. Not just injuries but the racing itself, when you have a bike that is so fast out of the corners it just gives less opportunity to pass.
Flip109
Profile picture for user Flip109
Posts
3460
Joined
6/15/2007
Location
USA
Flip109 3/9/2012 7:29pm
3/9/2012 7:29pm
Yea I guess they could change it to slow races fuck it. The excitement of danger and risk
Is what makes this sport what it is.
Outsider
Profile picture for user Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
Outsider 3/9/2012 7:32pm
3/9/2012 7:32pm
Paint chips look yummy and all, but.....
Mstock
Profile picture for user Mstock
Posts
2044
Joined
9/14/2010
Location
Middleton, WI, USA
Mstock 3/9/2012 7:39pm
3/9/2012 7:39pm
Maybe they should play into the injury part of the sport during the live tv broadcast. Have a series (start to date) broken vertebrae flow chart. Show a close up Kyle Partridges sliced open foot and tell the audience that the broken C3 and C4 hurt worse, etc..
It's a huge part of the sport why not market it? According to most on this board core motocross riders are less than 1% of the tv audience. The world loves seeing/hearing about people getting destroyed. Make the first 10 minutes of the broadcast the weekly injury report so the "new" fans of the sport know how gnarly it is so they stay tuned in.
fader418
Profile picture for user fader418
Posts
2831
Joined
9/14/2009
Location
Lake Forest, CA, USA
fader418 3/9/2012 7:42pm
3/9/2012 7:42pm
Pretty sure supercross is more dangerous than turniing left..cant compare the 2
kevin204
Profile picture for user kevin204
Posts
4161
Joined
12/29/2006
Location
Kawartha Lakes, ON, CA
Fantasy
346th
kevin204 3/9/2012 7:47pm
3/9/2012 7:47pm
AUS_Twisted wrote:
I agree with the 450 part, having such powerful efficient bikes is killing this sport indoors. Not just injuries but the racing itself, when you have...
I agree with the 450 part, having such powerful efficient bikes is killing this sport indoors. Not just injuries but the racing itself, when you have a bike that is so fast out of the corners it just gives less opportunity to pass.
Yeah, the Lites guys NEVER, EVER, EVER get hurt, either! Fuck, they actually were healed back in the day riding 2 strokes! Hurt? Get on a 85cc 2 stroke! No power = no inuries! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FastEddy
Profile picture for user FastEddy
Posts
14815
Joined
8/3/2008
Location
💀, FL, USA
FastEddy 3/9/2012 7:54pm
3/9/2012 7:54pm
ocscottie wrote:
I only got as far as reading the title of his thread, didnt think i needed to go any further lol Gibby said it should be...
I only got as far as reading the title of his thread, didnt think i needed to go any further lol Gibby said it should be renamed the "Monster Energy Survivor Series" Grinning
"Monster Energy Survivor Series"

GOOD STUFF! Smile
A bad year for a lot of riders.
Lifesarutt64 3/9/2012 8:00pm
3/9/2012 8:00pm
crfby wrote:
Yeh thats right, i have followed this sport for 15 years and i have to say im am finaly fed up. Racer x injury report has...
Yeh thats right, i have followed this sport for 15 years and i have to say im am finaly fed up. Racer x injury report has over 30 guys on it. They need to do something to help stop these injuries. When nascar had a problem like this they changed everything. Thats what needs to happen here if they truly want to see racing or is it they just want to see guys crashing? Wana fix this sport ,mandate neck protection,plastic chest and spine protetection and knee braces. If everybody has to were them there will be no advantage( heat,mobility) to not wearing hem. Have very short starts( then anybody could get hole shot) wider and easier tracks,even if this means shorter lap time, then race more laps. And if all this doesnt solve problem dump the 450s. Supercross class is modified 250s and lites is stock 250. Or do nothing and continue year after year with only one main guy surviving. I know if they did this the racing would be awesome but i truly wonder if the masses even cares about that.
I agree that the number of injuries in SX is way out of control.
Should they make the tracks more basic?

Pit Row

See All »
AUS_Twisted
Profile picture for user AUS_Twisted
Posts
1150
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Melbourne, AU
AUS_Twisted 3/9/2012 8:01pm
3/9/2012 8:01pm Edited Date/Time 3/9/2012 8:05pm
AUS_Twisted wrote:
I agree with the 450 part, having such powerful efficient bikes is killing this sport indoors. Not just injuries but the racing itself, when you have...
I agree with the 450 part, having such powerful efficient bikes is killing this sport indoors. Not just injuries but the racing itself, when you have a bike that is so fast out of the corners it just gives less opportunity to pass.
kevin204 wrote:
Yeah, the Lites guys NEVER, EVER, EVER get hurt, either! Fuck, they actually were healed back in the day riding 2 strokes! Hurt? Get on a...
Yeah, the Lites guys NEVER, EVER, EVER get hurt, either! Fuck, they actually were healed back in the day riding 2 strokes! Hurt? Get on a 85cc 2 stroke! No power = no inuries! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck 250f's and lites to, do you see them having problems clearing jumps, usually they are doing the same lines as a 450 and easily over jumping the triples at times.

Do you not understand when you go faster you have a higher chance of more serious injuries, 4 strokes are to quick and efficient indoors for the size of the tracks. It's time SX learned from car racing and slow things down a bit (mainly for the racing aspect of things), it's getting out of hand.

And who said a 85cc would = no injuries, stop making up bullshit.
crfby
Profile picture for user crfby
Posts
98
Joined
4/18/2010
Location
Prairie Du Sac, WI, USA
crfby 3/9/2012 8:03pm
3/9/2012 8:03pm
I new the nascar comparision would come up. Let look at that a little closer. In case you dont remember a few years ago 3 racers were killed in a short few months. These Racers r going 200 mph inches apart on concrete for 3 hours. And nascar found a way to protect them. Why cant we try?
FastEddy
Profile picture for user FastEddy
Posts
14815
Joined
8/3/2008
Location
💀, FL, USA
FastEddy 3/9/2012 8:04pm
3/9/2012 8:04pm Edited Date/Time 3/9/2012 8:07pm
crfby wrote:
Yeh thats right, i have followed this sport for 15 years and i have to say im am finaly fed up. Racer x injury report has...
Yeh thats right, i have followed this sport for 15 years and i have to say im am finaly fed up. Racer x injury report has over 30 guys on it. They need to do something to help stop these injuries. When nascar had a problem like this they changed everything. Thats what needs to happen here if they truly want to see racing or is it they just want to see guys crashing? Wana fix this sport ,mandate neck protection,plastic chest and spine protetection and knee braces. If everybody has to were them there will be no advantage( heat,mobility) to not wearing hem. Have very short starts( then anybody could get hole shot) wider and easier tracks,even if this means shorter lap time, then race more laps. And if all this doesnt solve problem dump the 450s. Supercross class is modified 250s and lites is stock 250. Or do nothing and continue year after year with only one main guy surviving. I know if they did this the racing would be awesome but i truly wonder if the masses even cares about that.
Lifesarutt64 wrote:
I agree that the number of injuries in SX is way out of control.
Should they make the tracks more basic?
Would more basic tracks mean higher rates of speed?
Crashing at higher rates of speed will cause serious injuries also.

Not sure what the answer is....
But let's look at how much the riders safety gear has changed over the past 20-30 years as the sport has evolved.....
I think that would be a start.
It's always going to be dangerous...but I think more emphasis on the evolution of safety gear wouldn't hurt.
Három
Profile picture for user Három
Posts
32
Joined
2/6/2012
Location
Florida, FL, USA
Három 3/9/2012 8:06pm
3/9/2012 8:06pm
Mstock wrote:
Maybe they should play into the injury part of the sport during the live tv broadcast. Have a series (start to date) broken vertebrae flow chart...
Maybe they should play into the injury part of the sport during the live tv broadcast. Have a series (start to date) broken vertebrae flow chart. Show a close up Kyle Partridges sliced open foot and tell the audience that the broken C3 and C4 hurt worse, etc..
It's a huge part of the sport why not market it? According to most on this board core motocross riders are less than 1% of the tv audience. The world loves seeing/hearing about people getting destroyed. Make the first 10 minutes of the broadcast the weekly injury report so the "new" fans of the sport know how gnarly it is so they stay tuned in.
The highlight reel shows Canard, Morais, and Reed all three breaking their necks, literally. It would take an entire show to update the audience on the injuries, but once that weekend is over a 10 to 15 minute segment on new injuries should be good.
HuskyEd
Profile picture for user HuskyEd
Posts
5207
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Palmdale, CA, USA
HuskyEd 3/9/2012 8:10pm
3/9/2012 8:10pm
ocscottie wrote:
I only got as far as reading the title of his thread, didnt think i needed to go any further lol Gibby said it should be...
I only got as far as reading the title of his thread, didnt think i needed to go any further lol Gibby said it should be renamed the "Monster Energy Survivor Series" Grinning
FastEddy wrote:
"Monster Energy Survivor Series"

GOOD STUFF! Smile
A bad year for a lot of riders.
M.E.S.S - it seems to be one big one right now.Shocked
SwapperMX
Profile picture for user SwapperMX
Posts
2153
Joined
6/16/2010
Location
AU
SwapperMX 3/9/2012 8:10pm
3/9/2012 8:10pm
I am really getting sick of this make tracks easier because too many guys are getting hurt. The tracks have already been scaled back so much in the past ten years, they dont need to get easier. I still believe that the tracks should be made harder, steeper upramps, more tight and technical, and get back to what supercross was all about. Now it is just too much of a show. Build tracks with less flow and tighter sections and slow the tracks down that way. If the tracks got any easier from what they are at the moment, it would be stadium motocross instead of supercross.
Lifesarutt64 3/9/2012 8:11pm
3/9/2012 8:11pm
FastEddy wrote:
Would more basic tracks mean higher rates of speed? Crashing at higher rates of speed will cause serious injuries also. Not sure what the answer is...
Would more basic tracks mean higher rates of speed?
Crashing at higher rates of speed will cause serious injuries also.

Not sure what the answer is....
But let's look at how much the riders safety gear has changed over the past 20-30 years as the sport has evolved.....
I think that would be a start.
It's always going to be dangerous...but I think more emphasis on the evolution of safety gear wouldn't hurt.
Good point, air bag riding gear?
JG463
Profile picture for user JG463
Posts
937
Joined
6/21/2011
Location
Stillwater, OK, USA
JG463 3/9/2012 8:16pm
3/9/2012 8:16pm
Think before you drink and post?
FastEddy
Profile picture for user FastEddy
Posts
14815
Joined
8/3/2008
Location
💀, FL, USA
FastEddy 3/9/2012 8:16pm
3/9/2012 8:16pm Edited Date/Time 3/9/2012 8:18pm
FastEddy wrote:
Would more basic tracks mean higher rates of speed? Crashing at higher rates of speed will cause serious injuries also. Not sure what the answer is...
Would more basic tracks mean higher rates of speed?
Crashing at higher rates of speed will cause serious injuries also.

Not sure what the answer is....
But let's look at how much the riders safety gear has changed over the past 20-30 years as the sport has evolved.....
I think that would be a start.
It's always going to be dangerous...but I think more emphasis on the evolution of safety gear wouldn't hurt.
Lifesarutt64 wrote:
Good point, air bag riding gear?
I don't know about taking it that far...
But more or less have the gear manufactures working closely with full time Doctors/Orthopedics/Specialists ect...
I'm sure it would be a spendy venture.
Design nearly Concussion proof type helmets ect...I think something like that would be a huge accomplishment and maybe not impossible.
Maybe even gear that protects the riders more and also limit's their abilities to a certain extent,I don't know.
There is a lot that could be tried....but are they willing to do it.
AUS_Twisted
Profile picture for user AUS_Twisted
Posts
1150
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Melbourne, AU
AUS_Twisted 3/9/2012 8:19pm
3/9/2012 8:19pm Edited Date/Time 3/9/2012 8:21pm
SwapperMX wrote:
I am really getting sick of this make tracks easier because too many guys are getting hurt. The tracks have already been scaled back so much...
I am really getting sick of this make tracks easier because too many guys are getting hurt. The tracks have already been scaled back so much in the past ten years, they dont need to get easier. I still believe that the tracks should be made harder, steeper upramps, more tight and technical, and get back to what supercross was all about. Now it is just too much of a show. Build tracks with less flow and tighter sections and slow the tracks down that way. If the tracks got any easier from what they are at the moment, it would be stadium motocross instead of supercross.
Yeah a start would be to stop building so many steeply banked berms for the turns which can be railed to carry more speed into sections, I'd like to see some 180 turns with little or no banking so you get more rear end tire action creating more time in the turn for passes.
crfby
Profile picture for user crfby
Posts
98
Joined
4/18/2010
Location
Prairie Du Sac, WI, USA
crfby 3/9/2012 8:20pm
3/9/2012 8:20pm
Im not sure easier would equal faster cause you still got corners to slow them down. And i dont mean getting rid of triples,hell make bigger if u want to see big air, just dont put them 4 feet from the entrance/exit of corners
Torco1
Profile picture for user Torco1
Posts
6585
Joined
4/27/2007
Location
Corona, CA, USA
Torco1 3/9/2012 8:26pm
3/9/2012 8:26pm
I just got done working out.......I'm pretty fuckin huge right now.

Post a reply to: supercross should be called stupidcross