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Very few people want to ride them and the ones that do should. Whatever floats their boat. The rest of us want to make our four strokes lighter and quit hearing all the bullshit about 2 strokes.
I personally took forever to convert to a four stroke but would never go back. I have ridden Service 500's, 250's, 300's, 125's, 150's, they all ride like two strokes. I like the power delivery and the way a four stroke rides. I prefer it but that is just me.
If a person likes two strokes buy one ride it and STFU.
I want to help, though.
search flame travel, dwell time, and static compression. then maybe you wont keep using these introductory level arguments. what you are saying is not wrong per se, but it truly is something you'd read in the first 2 chapters of "Engines for Dummies"
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Your definition of a contribution is very important to me. I will probably lose sleep now....
2. a two stroke stood on top of the podium at MEC. it won by half a lap. it was green and had a little ginger on it.
you can ride whatever you want man, i really dont care. you can masturbate with crunchy peanut butter. i dont care. I just do not like seeing false propaganda, specifically the blanket statement "4 sTROOEKs ARRGGHH BetttttAARR!!"
The AMA changed the displacemet rule for the YZ400F .......WRONG
4 strokes were forced in for emissions.........not a chance
4-strokes have cleaner emissions......in some ways, not in others
360cc 4-stroke maximum....HAR.....PURE BS try 650cc
Stop it.....you guys are killing me with this BS.......I'm sure glad I stopped back for the entertainment....
We are going to agree on the 2 stroke is more efficient argument. Those that argue that point are either fishing or mentally challenged?
Crunchy Peanut butter? I may have the old lady bring a jar to bed tonight. I will tell her Premix says it's the bomb.
Plus the fact that the level of riding skill needed to go fast on a big 4-stroke is so low it get a lot of riders in trouble.
I too rode 2 strokes for many years until 2006, when I bought my first 4t, a new KXF 250.
After one day of riding I was sold on 4 strokes. Much easier and FUN to ride. IMO
Now I have a new 2012 KXF 250 and love it.
No way I'd go back to a 2 smoker.
But like you said, if you like them, buy one, ride it, enjoy, and STFU.
It just gets old having people post on here about how we should
all love 2 strokes, like we forgot what it was like to ride one.
Oh yeah, and spare me the part about it taking more skill to ride one. I don't give a shit about that. I ride to have fun!
But hey, that's just my opinion. lol
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I rode a 125 and a service 500 last Friday because I remembered how fun they were. The thing is they were not nearly as much fun as I remembered. Then I rode a 250f with an ice block that was now a 304 and had a blast.
I think we remember the good old days as being better than they actually were.
Don't forget that there were Husaberg 501's, ATK 604's, Husqvarna 610's and a slew of other 4-strokes riding AMA nationals long before the YZ 400F came around.
And BTW, 4-strokes were never "exempt". There were one year exemptions for each MFG. I have raced 4-strokes since 1981 in all levels of AMA competition.
I am not a damn 4 stroke Nazi either though.
LTM brother!
I currently have a YZ 450. a YZ125, a YZ250-2-stroke-MX, a YZ-250-2-stroke-off-road, an SC-500 and two Husaberg FC501's in my garage,
I don't have to remeber the good old days, I live them every weekend and always have.
Say hello to Breck for me.
PMJ pwns DJ
Now tell these guys to get off of the 360cc deal.
I like the snowmobile.....seems I got several of those toilets now too.....
Can you fuckin imagine, those things would sell like hotcakes.
But hey, whatever makes you happy, go for it. Very cool to have so many choices though.
I've raced and ridden for 40 years too. Can't say I've raced every weekend though.
Actually, I do a lot of practice riding at private tracks more than I race these days.
I only have so much time I can dedicate to riding mx, even as much as I love it.
So I choose a bike I enjoy. And for me that's a 4 stroke.
I don't know why some guys on here just can't accept the fact that many of us love our 4t's and wouldn't go back if we could.
Btw, I rode a nice 2004 RM 250 about a month ago just for old times sake.
Even though my memory isn't what it used to be, the bike was just like I remembered.... not fun! imho
I'll take my 250f.
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