Open 125 class at LL

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11/23/2011 11:26am
Good call, Harry. I think I will take that advice. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. See you at the races.

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11/23/2011 11:37am
Why would a 125 class have to be 12 rounds and be on equal footing with the other mens classes? Leave that for the 250's and 450's being they are the premier classes. 125's weren't always 12 rounds.

But then again,this isn't my livelihood. Just a long time fan of the sport. My apologies...Smile
11/23/2011 12:17pm Edited Date/Time 11/23/2011 12:21pm
Harry_Gray wrote:
Sheriff245, the point I was trying to make was KTM has made improvments/changes on their bikes over the years (however small they might have been at...
Sheriff245, the point I was trying to make was KTM has made improvments/changes on their bikes over the years (however small they might have been at certain times), while Yamaha has done since 07' was BNG and that's it. My apologies on this misunderstanding, should have clarified on this post/opinion more. The point is, there is a market, and while I don't have any hatred or animosity towards the 4 strokes, IMHO, there is still room for the two stroke at the local/amateur level and the OEM's should act accordingly. To build a competitve 250F cost tons while a 125/250 would/could be more cost efficient over the long term. As with many others on here, I am just another person w/ an opinion...
Still, my question remains valid considering you mentioned that someone who would choose the YZ over the SX would be crazy. Even though the YZ has received very little refinements over the last few years, it's still a very capable bike. Even though I admit the SX is superior in the top end power department, I totally understand why some riders would prefer a blue bike over an orange one. Heck, you still see red, green and yellow bikes on the lines in the Youth classes, and some of them are even running up front. The fact is, bikes in general haven't changed much in the last decade, if not for suspension components (and the YZ's have received the same upgrades as the YZ-F's in that department).
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11/23/2011 12:43pm
Baby steps. Baby steps.....

Open Two Stroke Class (A/Cool is an awesome idea. If the class is a big hit and builds demand, more manufacturers might start building two strokes.

Lets support the idea....... not kick the idea.

Long live the two stroke

Thank you DC.

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11/23/2011 1:00pm Edited Date/Time 11/23/2011 1:44pm
Happy Thanksgiving, looking forward to the races at LLs!
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11/23/2011 1:23pm
oh the smell of premix and the sounds of 2strokes

Open 2stroke class, bring what ya got
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11/24/2011 1:45am
I have at least a couple pro riders in mind that would show up to a 125 pro national race.
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11/25/2011 7:21pm
12 round 125 two stroke series at the national would be way cooler then the WMX, WMX is a waste of time and is going nowhere.
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11/25/2011 8:44pm
let the top amateurs ride the 125 class on national day without losing there amateur status. adam ciaciurilo would race a few? one moto. 20 min . fans would love it
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11/25/2011 8:51pm
a lot of good points on here.
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11/30/2011 5:33pm Edited Date/Time 11/30/2011 5:34pm
double post, sorry, damn interweb acting all funny tonight
12/1/2011 10:48am
Sheriff245 wrote:
Care to elaborate on what's more "technologically advanced" on the KTM? (new plastics and linkage are not new technologies, just in case you were going to...
Care to elaborate on what's more "technologically advanced" on the KTM? (new plastics and linkage are not new technologies, just in case you were going to use those as valid arguments)

Sorry for hijacking the topic. I think this is a great idea. We added that class in our local series this year and it's been one of the most interesting classes to watch.
When you produce a stock 250cc 2 stroke with 8-10 more HP than the "other" 250cc 2 strokes offered... well that's about all I have to say honestly. There is a hand placement under the rear fender to lift the bike on the stand, the front forks come with on the fly adjusters on the fork, the airbox is accessible without taking off the seat, the graphics are not stickers on plastics but more infused with the plastics (brilliant by the way), smart suction gas cap that doesn't use threads, the engine compartment looks like there's a 125 in the frame (so much room you can get the spark plug out quickly with everything on the bike), v force reeds stock. Looking over that bike it is just pure racing. Everything is thought out in detail. Having looked over the 2012 250 in person the only way I'm ever buying Japanese again is if Kawi starts producing 250cc smokers. Lets not forget the Direct Injected 150cc 2013 concept they just unveiled.
12/1/2011 10:59am
DC wrote:
There's just not enough support for a 12-race 125cc National Championship class, nor is there enough time, and that's the only way it could be on...
There's just not enough support for a 12-race 125cc National Championship class, nor is there enough time, and that's the only way it could be on equal footing with the other two men's divisions. We've had two classes since 1993 and I don't foresee that changing anytime soon. Any additional races added to the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross tour would just be exhibition-type races, not a "National Championship."

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Ever thought about running the WMX or/and 125's on a Sunday during amateur day? The 125's would relate a lot more to the amateur AND the marketing would be geared towards the audience attending. Just ideas.

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